Now you're just being a dick :/

I'm out.

Quoted from Max Now you're just being a dick :/

Who?

Me?

Shawn.....><

Jeff.

I'm all for criticism, but I'm not a fan of blatant dick-ish sarcasm. He never treated me like that in our PM's so maybe it's all for show, or maybe he just doesn't see eye to eye with this JSimon.

I'm out for that reason, kids shit.

Quoted from Max Jeff. I'm all for criticism, but I'm not a fan of blatant dick-ish sarcasm. He never treated me like that in our PM's so maybe it's all for show, or maybe he just doesn't see eye to eye with this JSimon. I'm out for that reason, kids shit.

It ain't "kids shit" FM. It's critisism.

And if you don't like / want input from Jeff, than simply ask him not to post on your thread.

It's that simple. But when there is an OWC, you are just going to have to take what comes.

Example--

It was mentioned here eariler about Jeff and I argueing and fighting.

We did. Years ago. but you know what. I saw things in his post that rang of truth. No matter how much you don't want to hear some things, there is always something in his reviews that are meant to help.

And yes, he has gone way too far sometimes, just like may of us here.

But you're not going to find a better. more honest person to give advice on how to make your work better.

If you don't like "dick-ish" then stop talking with him. But you'll also miss out.

And just so you know, that fucker in the background in my avatar...is Jeff.

Shawn.....><

Quoted from Ledbetter And just so you know, that fucker in the background in my avatar...is Jeff.

Are you sure? I thought it was Dr. Phil, sans moustache.

R

Ren,

Ha!

He does look like Dr. Phil.

Shawn.....><

My advice on what, Shawn? Your script?

Care to elaborate?

What are you asking?

I always welcome your advice on my scripts?

I always have.

Shawn.....><

And Shawn, are you going to say with a straight face that Jeff's review of this script was done a spirit of being constructive? Seriously? I know you feel an obligation to defend him, but nothing in his review here is designed to be constructive. The scenes were clear. Suggestions to word better are welcome, but Jeff used this little nitpicks to call the script shit and stop the read. Which I don't care about, I'm just calling it what it is: a review that was begun with malice from the getgo. Let's not kid ourselves, we know full well that was the case.

Quoted Text I personally didn't think your advice was all that helpful other than to clarify what was already obvious.

Shawn

Quoted from Ledbetter He does look like Dr. Phil.

You both look like broke-ass magicians who perform at your local VFW on the weekends.

Quoted Text And you decided to throw in the nice, little  aside, "Shit!".  Yeah, shit is right.  I'm out, I'm afraid.

From Jeff's review.

And I admit I saw Fen's reaction before I saw the review. Fen, who I didn't know, had a problem with calling a script shit. And I don't think I'd consider that giving constructive remarks on a script. That kind of comment can post a response from the writer.

Quoted from JSimon And Shawn, are you going to say with a straight face that Jeff's review of this script was done a spirit of being constructive? Seriously? I know you feel an obligation to defend him, but nothing in his review here is designed to be constructive. The scenes were clear. Suggestions to word better are welcome, but Jeff used this little nitpicks to call the script shit and stop the read. Which I don't care about, I'm just calling it what it is: a review that was begun with malice from the getgo. Let's not kid ourselves, we know full well that was the case.

A COMPLETLY straight face my friend.

I see it as constructive and what is wrong with nit-picking anyway?

How many times does a writer mull over a single line when doing a write / rewrite?

Your view of malice must differ from mine.

I converse with Jeff everyday while working on screenplays and I hear ALL THE TIME that such and such is shit.

I hear that this or that scene is written like shit.

I hear that a action line is crap and should be rewritten.

You know what I do?

I do as he recommends.

In just the last few months. Jeff has been brought on board for several high end writing assingnments and has been outstanding using this same dick-ish appraoch.

He was editor to the NANCY GLASS / MTV  - screenplay - TILL DAWN  - NOW OPTIONED script.

He is currenty Co-Writer as well as Co - EP. (that's Executive Producer) on the script we just SOLD to FP / Rhino Films called REPRISAL. Due for release in November.

He is alo Editor / Co-Write on the screenplay CHERNOBYL where we already have interest from THREE production companies when completed in July.

Whether you give a shit about what Jeff has to say, you should understnd that production companies are listening to him and it seems they like what they hear.

Shawn.....><

Quoted from Dreamscale I'm sorry, I don't follow what you or MAx are trying to say. If a phone is in someone's pocket, how can anyone see it?  Is that a correct statement?

Then why bother making a point of mentioning that the phone is not seen? It's obviously not seen as it is in his pocket... so why did YOU write afterwards that we do not see it. What's the point in stating the obvious?

I may well go back and take apart your other inane comments in a minute.

I really enjoyed this story. And, I say good on you for writing something out of the box (that's what writers do).

I was a little let down by the ending - a couple of alternate ideas you got through feedback might make for a better payoff - I like Dustin's idea of it being 'all in his mind' and Richard's idea of it being a prank which is kinda good too. Nonetheless an entertaining and different take on the challenge.