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Vid put back. You all completelymissed the irony, here.
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mcornetto
Posted: November 5th, 2010, 5:41pm
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I have to agree with this to some extent. Based on working with the "talented" actors while I was in school, they did in fact say what they wanted to say. Mostly it was performance rather than film and even if you got the actors to say what you wanted them to say during rehearsal, they said whatever the hell they wanted during the performance and there was no way to stop them.
Having worked as an actor, amateur and professional, that is true to a certian extent, but it really depends on the actor in question and the degree of flexibility a director will allow. Say for example it's theatre and the script in question is a well known play, then very few actors will deviate from the script. There are exceptions. You can never predict what will happen on the night. An actor opposite you might forget their lines or cue leaving you to ad lib. I had someone skip forward 5 pages on a crucial plot point once. Seconds can feel like hours and you can't drop the ball or the lie you're selling falls apart. An actors job is to understand the essence of their character, their purpose on stage and emotional content. If they truely understand that, there are 10 different ways a character could express whatever it is they are expressing at that point in time. As writers we hate it hear that. But it's true. On set, the amount of lines you have to learn are tiny in comparsion for that take or scene. Lines get changed because an actor is too lazy to laern them. Period. Oh, that's what we call 'creative differences' wink wink.
I know some actors do stray from the script occasionally, I think it is much rarer than Alba would like to think, judging by comparing screenplays with films it does not happen that much. Sometimes, especially in the hands of an actor who knows what he is doing, they do actually improve the dialogue.
So on the whole I have no major issue with what Jessica Alba is saying, I really just saw the opportunity to post a video of her getting her arse spanked
Common decency is a big question. It's definitely different here than it is in the U.S. In Thailand it's different too - people pick their noses while talking to you without a second thought.
Common sense, well, in a world that would allow Sarah Palin to run for president, that's a really low bar.
Murphy, you shouldn't post nudity unless it's art. I question that Jessica Alba's bum is art even though she probably put a lot of work into it. So maybe you should remove the embeded video if it's going to get peoples, besides Jessica's, knickers in a knot.
I'm sure all the female screenwriters on SS really appreciate that. Ever heard of a thing called common decency? Or common sense, for that matter.
Yeah co's this is a real video of a female getting spanked and not just an actress playing a part in a movie or anything like that.
Is it not your "good book" that says this...
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
You really want to get into a pissfight about decency? I suggest you drop it.
There won't be a fight in this thread because I will delete it. It isn't serving anyone except yourselves to discuss anything but the subject matter at hand. Act your ages please.
I have to believe she was misquoted, or excerpted in some unflattering way, because Jessica Alba couldn’t have actually said this:
"Good actors, never use the script unless it’s amazing writing. All the good actors I’ve worked with, they all say whatever they want to say."
Oh, Jessica. Where to start?
Scripts aren’t just the dialogue. Screenplays reflect the entire movie in written form, including those moments when you don’t speak. Do you know the real reason we hold table readings in pre-production? So the actors will read the entire script at least once.
Following your logic, you’ve never been in a movie with both good actors and amazing writing. That may be true, but it might hurt the feelings of David Wain, Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller.
You’re saying your co-stars who delivered their lines as written are not “good actors.” Awkward.
You’re setting dangerous expectations. So if an aspiring actor wishes to be “good,” she should say whatever she wants to say? That’s pretty terrible advice.
Screenwriters can be your best friends. We are pushovers for attractive people who pay attention to us. I wrote that bathtub scene in Big Fish because Jessica Lange made brief eye contact with me. So if you’re not getting great writing — and honestly, you’re not — ask to have lunch with the screenwriter. I’ve seen you on interviews. You’re charming. That charm could work wonders.
Again: I know that quotes often come out in ways we never intended. It’s lacking context — though the photos are lovely. (Hi, Carter Smith!) I’m calling this out just so we can all hopefully learn something.
And considering her body of work, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say that Jessica Alba is a goddamn fucking moron. Yeah, she was in Sin City but does that really make up for The Love Guru, the Fantastic Four movies, Good Luck Chuck, Honey and The Eye? I don't think so.
Fuck Jessica Alba.
I can't live the buttoned-down life like you. I want it all. The dizzying highs, the terrifying lows, the creamy middles. Sure, I may offend some of the blue bloods with my cocky stride and musky odors. Oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called "city fathers," who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards and talk about what's to be done with this Homer Simpson?
I cannot believe how utterly trash and ass her acting is in that scene. WOW! Maybe she should start reading from the script. Maybe she even take some coaching from the writers too. She could use it. The thing is, she looks so good nobody cares what she says. I mean, for all intense and purposes, here ass cheeks could've been doing the screaming and I don't think 97% of the world would care.
They'd probably give her an Oscar for it if they could. Sad.
Watched the commentary for Boogie Nights a while back. Anderson said William H. Macy studies dialogue so closely, he could change up his line delivery based on comma placement alone. Anyone wanna call him a bad actor?
Who cares what the lead actress in Good Luck, Chuck thinks?
And for the record, who cares what John August thinks? This (unlike above) is a serious question. I honestly don't hate Charlie's Angels enough to discredit the guy but when did he become such an authority on screenwriting (as opposed to someone like David Koepp, for example)? I see him name-dropped like crazy around here.
Watched the commentary for Boogie Nights a while back. Anderson said William H. Macy studies dialogue so closely, he could change up his line delivery based on comma placement alone. Anyone wanna call him a bad actor?
Who cares what the lead actress in Good Luck, Chuck thinks?
And for the record, who cares what John August thinks? This (unlike above) is a serious question. I honestly don't hate Charlie's Angels enough to discredit the guy but when did he become such an authority on screenwriting (as opposed to someone like David Koepp, for example)? I see him name-dropped like crazy around here.
August isn't my screenwriting muse, neither. As far as clean, direct and visual goes --> Joe EsZterhas and Stallone are above and beyond most. I love reading their work. They are fantastic writers who both have a distinct style when you read them. You don't feel like you're reading a screenplay written by so and so and so and so... You feel like you're reading their own respected works. That, to me, is important. That stamp. That signature vibe.
Even "ShowGirls" is written better than 95% of actual screenplays floating around today. Movie might've sucked but Joe delivered on his end when you read it.