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Alan_Holman
Posted: December 29th, 2005, 10:42am Report to Moderator
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... to add to my previous comment.

These "old days" I mentioned included annoying people out of neccesscity, not because I want to be annoying.  Just like how I had to post things without spell-checking them.  Someone should hire me for a creative job, damn it!  Find my scripts online and hire me!  

*grumbles*

I should log off now before I make an enemy or two.  **** this ****.

Have a nice day you guys!  See ya tomorrow!
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Old Time Wesley
Posted: December 29th, 2005, 7:57pm Report to Moderator
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You aren't a threat to anybody to actually be an enemy. You make so many edits to your series I don't think many people care to continue reading it; you can't expect to keep an audience if they have to start all over again 2 weeks from now.

That's your only problem; you don't care about the people who are your audience. Alan does what he wants at the expense of the people that make Banana Chan great... the fans.

You wrote it great but without the readers you'll just fade away into obscurity and yes I mean further than some small town in Canada.

This topic has basically brought nothing new to the table, it just says what we've all known for so long and well it isn't doing anything. It's like the rules, people should care but they don't and never will until Don brings down the iron fist and says listen to me or you're gone and no second chances this time.

I have read many a great screenplays that have a lot of spelling errors and some by the group in this thread so I wouldn't act above the rest. Nobody is perfect though Alan is pushing that because I don't remember seeing more than 2 from the dozen or so episodes I read in the past which is really good.


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dogglebe
Posted: December 29th, 2005, 8:09pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Alan_Holman
Someone should hire me for a creative job, damn it!  Find my scripts online and hire me!


That's an original sentiment!

Unfortunately, you're putting all your eggs in one basket by write only anime (a particularly small basket, I might add).

You may want to put Banana Chan down for a while and write something else.  I've covered several different genres with my writing (sci-fi, drama, horror, comedy, suspense).  Recently I answewred an ad for a horror writer.  I was able to send three shorts as samples of my writing.


Phil



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George Willson
Posted: December 29th, 2005, 10:41pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from dogglebe
Unfortunately, you're putting all your eggs in one basket by write only anime (a particularly small basket, I might add).

You may want to put Banana Chan down for a while and write something else.  I've covered several different genres with my writing (sci-fi, drama, horror, comedy, suspense).  Recently I answewred an ad for a horror writer.  I was able to send three shorts as samples of my writing.


I second that! I am no fan of zombie movies, and I readily admit that. I find the plot possibilities somewhat limited with that genre, so I don't write it. However, I have written TWO zombie scripts (well, one and a rewrite of one). Why? Because somebody wanted one. I have crossed genre lines I don't normally cross to both have practice in doing so and to have something to show for myself. I have stuff from multiple genres to show what I can do. I could very easily bury myself in The Fempiror Chronicles, a series that has received nothing but praise for its originality and how well it's written (yeah, self-promotional plug, but hey, it's the truth). I realize, however, that this series WILL NOT be produced by anyone worth mentioning unless I get something else produced to show that I'm worth my salt. Therefore, along with continuing to write on this, I work on a lot of other scripts in other genres. I've been contacted by two worthwhile people in the industry for minor projects. Still waiting for the official word on this stuff (although there is an unofficial positive in there, sh!), but I can tell you that if my only accomplishment was The Fempiror Chronicles, it is unlikely I would have been contacted. Branch out. Do other stuff. SHOW how creative you are, and people will notice.



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dogglebe
Posted: December 29th, 2005, 10:58pm Report to Moderator
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Among the scripts I'm working on now is a slasher/horror flick, just to see if I can write one.  I'm also working on a sequel to The Burnout, which is more of an action flick than the first, as well as a dramatic vehicle for my character Sawyer (from my short, 'Linus').

On the back burner, I have some comedy shorts....

Point is, you have to work on a variety of things.  It increases your chance of selling something and oit helps you grow as a writer.


Phil
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Alan_Holman
Posted: December 30th, 2005, 12:53am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Old Time Wesley
You aren't a threat to anybody to actually be an enemy. You make so many edits to your series I don't think many people care to continue reading it; you can't expect to keep an audience if they have to start all over again 2 weeks from now.

That's your only problem; you don't care about the people who are your audience. Alan does what he wants at the expense of the people that make Banana Chan great... the fans.

You wrote it great but without the readers you'll just fade away into obscurity and yes I mean further than some small town in Canada.

This topic has basically brought nothing new to the table, it just says what we've all known for so long and well it isn't doing anything. It's like the rules, people should care but they don't and never will until Don brings down the iron fist and says listen to me or you're gone and no second chances this time.

I have read many a great screenplays that have a lot of spelling errors and some by the group in this thread so I wouldn't act above the rest. Nobody is perfect though Alan is pushing that because I don't remember seeing more than 2 from the dozen or so episodes I read in the past which is really good.


People who've read any entire draft of the series know that it's ABOUT finding a perfect time-line and therefore each "draft" is like a new season.  
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Alan_Holman
Posted: December 30th, 2005, 12:54am Report to Moderator
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... but dispite that, the first nine episodes are locked and won't be re-drafted.
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Takeshi
Posted: February 2nd, 2007, 7:46pm Report to Moderator
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On constructive criticism; Isaac Newton said; "Tact is making a point without making an enemy". That's something I try to keep in mind when reviewing someone’s work.  
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dogglebe
Posted: February 2nd, 2007, 7:55pm Report to Moderator
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And Irish diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that he'll look forward to thte trip.

At the same time, Bronx diplomacy means saying 'Good dog.  Good dog,' long enough to find a club.



Phil
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Combichrist
Posted: February 3rd, 2007, 5:02pm Report to Moderator
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Myself the story is more important than the spelling and grammar, people have a knack for knowing what a Misplet word is than being able to follow the story. I have this one friend who uses big words to get his work noticed, rather than work on his stories... When a producer or whoever looks at your work, they won't care for the big words but only the story!!


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JD_OK
Posted: February 3rd, 2007, 8:00pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Combichrist
Myself the story is more important than the spelling and grammar, people have a knack for knowing what a Misplet word is than being able to follow the story. I have this one friend who uses big words to get his work noticed, rather than work on his stories... When a producer or whoever looks at your work, they won't care for the big words but only the story!!



Grammar and spelling, go hand and hand with story. You can't get into a story with alot of those mistakes. You cant peak the interest without a good story.

They equally need to be on par.


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Death Monkey
Posted: February 6th, 2007, 2:52am Report to Moderator
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I don't think there should be a choice between putting emphasis on story OR grammar. Emphasis should be on both. Always.

That's like saying the destination is more important than learning how to drive to get there. The story is very important but I won't bother 'getting' to the end if you're fishtailing all over the road (metaphorically).

Screenplay is a format and NOT just telling a campfire tale. So the story isn't the be all and end all of screenwriting, even though of course your script will be worthless without a good story.

Bad grammar puts me off. I think, either this person doesn't know his/her grammar or he doesn't bother to check it. Either way it's distracting.


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Hey Mike, I just wanted to leave a comment about your new avatar. SWEET! I like it, I really really do, alot. So, no critisism here.

Spencer


I got nothing.  
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Zack
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Yeah, I like it too! How'd you get it to look like you?
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Shelton
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It's a new thing that's hooked in with Photobucket.  I think it's called Weez, but it's customizable and you can make it look like anyone you want.  When you're done it drops face and full body pics into your album for use as an avatar or whatever.

I have a full body/scene pic on my MySpace page.


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