A debate on the subject is pointless. If the word offends even a small fraction of people, no matter how small, using it in a logline is moronic, period.

As far as all the "research", all I need to know is who uses the word and their intent behind it. In the states, it's commonly used by hate groups with a racist intent.

I live in Chicago, not Internet-research-land. I invite anyone who thinks it's not offensive to openly use the word on the streets of several neighborhoods here that I'd be happy to direct you. I'm sure your research will come in handy.

Quoted from Bogey A debate on the subject is pointless. If the word offends even a small fraction of people, no matter how small, using it in a logline is moronic, period.

The word Fat offends quite a lot of people, yet it would be fine in a logline. The word redneck offends too, yet that is also OK in a logline. Spotty. Skinny. Large, small... cross-eyed, bow-legged, buck-toothed... where does it end? What else is left to describe people? Only pick on the indistinctive things so as to avoid offending anybody. We'd be left with the description: well they're a human.

Quoted from Bogey As far as all the "research", all I need to know is who uses the word and their intent behind it. In the states, it's commonly used by hate groups with a racist intent.

Mulattoes use the word to describe themselves and it is only ignorance (yes yours too) that makes the word racist.

Quoted from Bogey I live in Chicago, not Internet-research-land. I invite anyone who thinks it's not offensive to openly use the word on the streets of several neighborhoods here that I'd be happy to direct you. I'm sure your research will come in handy.

That's because people have been brainwashed into believing it is racist. They don't know any better because they are not educated to know. They are educated that white people enslaved black people and subjected them to all kinds of horrors. The opposite is never mentioned. It's never shown that Africa once had rich palaces etc... we only get to see them as savages.

This is by design. I learned this information from black people... not white. I come from England, and the City of Birmingham, probably the most multicultural city in the world. If not, it damned well should be. I went to a school where I was the only white kid in my class. In my area there were no churches, but plenty of mosques. It's an area called, Handsworth, google it.

Educated black people believe this information is repressed and our images of them as being savages is done by design. While all the while pretending to be against racism, the government are programming each group to be racist. They do it by pointing out the differences, by making certain words derogatory.

Then we learn about it at school. It's everywhere. I remember at school, being the only white kid, having to watch Roots... those muthafuckas. Teacher was black too... can you imagine the stares I got that day? Luckily I was quite personable. Did she mention that whites were also enslaved? Was it ever mentioned even in passing? Was it fuck.

They program us with this bullshit and we suck it up. Just believe what we're told. I know black people that believe the nose was cut off sphinx as it was a negro nose. Of course... Egypt was renowned for it's technology... but black people don't get the credit for it.

While all you politically correct dickheads are running around following the latest PC trends, you're actually helping to perpetuate the very thing you profess to hate. You just can't see it... and for all I know, you probably never will.

It would be good if we could focus discussions on this board as to the script and have race relations, religious, and any other topic not pertaining to the script on a different board.

Quoted from DustinBowcot While all you politically correct dickheads are running around following the latest PC trends, you're actually helping to perpetuate the very thing you profess to hate. You just can't see it... and for all I know, you probably never will.

Selling scripts is a business. If you have to be PC occasionally to do it, then that's being smart, not a "dickhead".

Quoted from Bogey Selling scripts is a business. If you have to be PC occasionally to do it, then that's being smart, not a "dickhead".

Working well for you is it?

Quoted from DustinBowcot Working well for you is it?

No complaints. Thank you for your concern.

Quoted from DustinBowcot Sources? You cited wiki once and then didn't bother to read the whole article.

Well, once you've finished spitting your dummy over this, maybe you can mature a little and get on to a reasonable argument. The page is there for anyone to look at, which is why I put the link there - the etymology is clearly there.

Your source was a timid rant, and a factionalist. Just because you decide to run with such fantasists, doesn't anyone who doesn't is absurd.

You obviously have a contorted opinion on this and find it difficult that anyone's opinion should differ. That, I might suggest, is you own inadequacy, and one which I won't indulge anymore.

C'mon you guys.

The judgment call of when to quell an ongoing conversation is not an easy one, but my instincts are telling me this one has been carried far enough.

I mean, honestly, unless one of you is actually of mixed heritage, you are all just whistling in the breeze, you know?

Back to the script, please, should anyone care to read it.

Quoted from bert I mean, honestly, unless one of you is actually of mixed heritage, you are all just whistling in the breeze, you know?

A lovely woman who married into my immediate family is biracial, so I do have a personal point of reference other than obscure websites and blogs with unknown sources.  

Yeah - I'm of mixed heritage, but consider it dropped none-the-less.

I am too. Irish and English.

Quoted from Bogey A lovely woman who married into my immediate family is biracial, so I do have a personal point of reference other than obscure websites and blogs with unknown sources.

Oh well, if we want to get into family... then both my nieces who are coming to visit next week are half Asian. One of my cousins has around seventy kids (just kidding, she has seven), all of them half black and half white. My other sister has five kids, all of them black mixes, depending on which guy she had the kid with.

So I suppose that means I also have a 'personal' perspective on this. Given that half everyone I know is black, asian or a mix of.

Here is another site, operated by mulattoes for mulattoes. Full of real history and facts. http://www.mixedracestudies.org/wordpress/?p=9642

Quoted from DustinBowcot Oh well, if we want to get into family... then both my nieces who are coming to visit next week are half Asian. One of my cousins has around seventy kids (just kidding, she has seven), all of them half black and half white. My other sister has five kids, all of them black mixes, depending on which guy she had the kid with. So I suppose that means I also have a 'personal' perspective on this. Given that half everyone I know is black, asian or a mix of.

Didn't know this was a contest of numbers. You win.

Saw lots of discussion on the word mullato, not a lot on the script. Some quick thoughts.  

I'm not a fan of the intro scene. A baby in a bassinet does not grab my attention. Could you not  have the same conversation but show the baby's birth? A difficult birth perhaps?

LOTS of names in your script. Everybody has a last name, unless it is super important later on it shouldn't matter. Also you use their last names constantly while writing. makes the read painful and slow. Also your movie shouldn't be a geography lesson. Only a few pages in and I'm reading about this town, that country, some long naming castle. Ditch them. If any of these  names are improtant they won't be to the reader because they don't stand out from all the other names you mention. They get lost in the shuffle.

Mean looking porridge? Is it gross? Thin? Discolored? Really good?

Your dialouge is hard to read. Everybody does too much explaining of circumstances and giving introductions of everything around them instead of you actually showing us. 10 pages in and I'm still not sure where this story is heading. Its a period piece so I understand the pace is usually slower but that is all the more case to not be boring. Shorter scences, less dialouge, and more focus will help.