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Dustin
Posted: February 18th, 2018, 2:57pm Report to Moderator
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It wouldn't make sense to have African-American programs about life on the street that's written by white guys.


Why not?
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Well technically they could. I suppose there's nothing stopping a bunch of white dudes from penning the next Boyz in the Hood.

EXT. GHETTO - NIGHT

Three spunk lads from the mean-streets hang at the corner. We can tell from the dark hoods draped over their Lakers baseball caps that they're up to some mischief.

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                      Hey homeboy, give me a hit of that good stuff.
                      You feel me, hot-diggity-dog-digitty?
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Quoted from RJP
Well technically they could. I suppose there's nothing stopping a bunch of white dudes from penning the next Boyz in the Hood.

EXT. GHETTO - NIGHT

Three spunk lads from the mean-streets hang at the corner. We can tell from the dark hoods draped over their Lakers baseball caps that they're up to some mischief.

                                     ICE CUBE
                      Hey homeboy, give me a hit of that good stuff.
                      You feel me, hot-diggity-dog-digitty?


AHH! You used the word “we!”



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Holy cow, an indie studio's screenplay contest has a preference towards stories for/about certain demographics of people? Truly, the white male writer is doomed.

Never mind that the WGA is 67% male, the earnings gap between male and female feature writers is increasing (women earned 78 cents on the dollar in 2012, 68 cents on the dollar in 2014), the earnings gap between white and minority feature writers is increasing (minorities earned 76 cents on the dollar in 2012, 75 cents on the dollar in 2014), and that the percentage of women screenwriters on the top 500 films of 2016 (13%) is the same as it was in 1998, etc., etc., blah blah.


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The diversity policy of this comp isn't why his script didn't place, that's evident after less than a page.


Is the script up? I can't seem to find it. Or did he take it down already?


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Anthony Cawood - Award winning screenwriter
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Thanks Anthony.


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Well technically they could. I suppose there's nothing stopping a bunch of white dudes from penning the next Boyz in the Hood.

EXT. GHETTO - NIGHT

Three spunk lads from the mean-streets hang at the corner. We can tell from the dark hoods draped over their Lakers baseball caps that they're up to some mischief.

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                      Hey homeboy, give me a hit of that good stuff.
                      You feel me, hot-diggity-dog-digitty?


Yeah because that's how http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075696/ penned Straight Outta Compton.

I'm from one of the most multicultural cities on the planet. I have black and Asian family members and I can write a screenplay filled entirely with black and Asian characters if I want to. I also grew up 'on the street' with all the experiences that come with it. At 13-years-old, I was hanging with a small gang of 8 Muslims where we used to steal car stereos to pay for our weed. I'm not going to get into the shit I did after that, but I know for certain that I'm not a hot-diggity anything.

That's a very stereotypical view of white males. You must be basing this off yourself? You couldn't write a film like that, so, obviously, no white male could?

You're wrong.
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Holy cow, an indie studio's screenplay contest has a preference towards stories for/about certain demographics of people? Truly, the white male writer is doomed.

Never mind that the WGA is 67% male, the earnings gap between male and female feature writers is increasing (women earned 78 cents on the dollar in 2012, 68 cents on the dollar in 2014), the earnings gap between white and minority feature writers is increasing (minorities earned 76 cents on the dollar in 2012, 75 cents on the dollar in 2014), and that the percentage of women screenwriters on the top 500 films of 2016 (13%) is the same as it was in 1998, etc., etc., blah blah.


Thanks for all these figures. However, one key component is missing. How many professional female writers are there and how many pro male writers are there?

Then we need to go deeper as the argument that not as many women are employed by design is used. So, we need to look at how many amateur writers there are of each demographic trying to break in.

If we use this site as an example, it seems dominated by white males, which would explain they dominating the pro field too.

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So I gave the first 10 a read, wanted to stop after the first page, but gave it the benefit of the doubt.

Sorry but if you think this is good you are very mistaken. I'm not going to give it a full review because I think that would be useless.

The quote was, "And yeah, I know I'm good". Sorry but you have a long way to go.

I agree with Anthony, this has absolutely nothing to do with diversity.


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AHH! You used the word “we!”



Ha ha ha yeah! I actually break a lot of rules with my actual scripts too! My last script starts with a flashback, has a dozen or so "we see" and "we hear". Tons of V.O. I've entered it in a few contests...I'm probably doomed lol.
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Yeah because that's how http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075696/ penned Straight Outta Compton.

I'm from one of the most multicultural cities on the planet. I have black and Asian family members and I can write a screenplay filled entirely with black and Asian characters if I want to. I also grew up 'on the street' with all the experiences that come with it. At 13-years-old, I was hanging with a small gang of 8 Muslims where we used to steal car stereos to pay for our weed. I'm not going to get into the shit I did after that, but I know for certain that I'm not a hot-diggity anything.

That's a very stereotypical view of white males. You must be basing this off yourself? You couldn't write a film like that, so, obviously, no white male could?

You're wrong.


Yeah, I was basing this on myself lol. I'm actually super white. I was just having a bit of fun. Obviously white people can still write stories about minorities. There was a good script in this years Nicholl called "Jellyfish Summer". Anyways, it was written by a white girl and it's about an African American family.

I think your story is a perfect example of what I was trying to say though. You have these experiences in your life that I can never understand. You could write about the streets and having a culturally diverse family. And I could write about the same thing, but it wouldn't be as authentic. I would be writing "what I think it's like".

So in a perfect world race, colour, and gender wouldn't matter. It would just be two hands on a keyboard. And the best scripts would win regardless. But the worlds not perfect. There's a lot of racism and segregation. Gay kids have to grow up getting bullied in school. They want to watch movies and TV that portray "their story" authentically.

If someone told you " Dustin, you can't write about growing up in the hood", they'd be wrong. Because you lived it. For the same reason Eminem has cred but Vanilla Ice doesn't.

Also, the contest-people feel it's important to encourage and nurture writers from those minorities. For reasons I've stated. That's why the 5 nicholl recipients are your typical Power Rangers cast lol.

Might seem unfair to you, but I can see both sides of the argument.
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Where is the script posted? Anyhow followed Anthony's link and can confirm - this guy could be a disabled minority on the autistic spectrum that identifies as female and still the script would not have advanced.

But i'm guessing he's young. A lot more living and a LOT more writing and who knows.
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Aaah, I provoked here a bit with my comments,,, comes to perspective. I'm not sure how one can talk about such topic in that compressed form that text messaging is, or whatever this is called.

I see people are hungry for that debate. And for me, it's what I expect from this board. Politicians and celebrities won't handle that stuff.

Btw: imo to burn his script now and here isn't the best behavior. The screenplay deserves its own thread


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Quoted from PrussianMosby


Btw: imo to burn his script now and here isn't the best behavior. The screenplay deserves its own thread


The script does have its own thread. The original post is directly related to the script and its quality, so posting on its quality in this thread makes sense.


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