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Posted: October 5th, 2016, 2:47pm Report to Moderator
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I thought it was good. Nothing groundbreaking, but okay.


Agree. Good enough to keep watching based on my confidence in HBO, but thought it was a flat follow-up to HBO's just ended THE NIGHT OF.
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Carson also thinks Game of Thrones is awful, just a bunch of people talking, he says. I kind of can't respect his opinion on work after that. Not that someone has to like GOT, they don't, but the writing and storytelling is so high quality that a writer should at least be able to recognize it.


I don't see why anyone would respect his opinion more than that of members on here. He has a limited knowledge of cinema.

Plus that guy had the scripts for the movies Voices and Burned in his top 25 best scripts he's ever read. Once both movies came out and weren't critical nor financial successes, both movies disappeared from his top 25 list. That should put his credibility in question.

And his articles often contain a ton of misinformation. The other day I opened his site and saw an article where he stated that the movie Pearl Harbor bombed. Which is not true. From what I remember at the time that movie had the biggest opening in USA history! The movie went on to make 450 mil WW on a budget of 140 mil. Plus the movie made another 150 million on DVD sales in 2001 alone! People thought it could reach the type of money that Titanic made, which it didn't, but it was a finanical success. To say that it bombed is ridicilous.
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I like that he takes a practical, under the hood approach. Too many people in this business get caught in the models they are taught are the basis for film or story.

But yeah, he gets too much wrong. He's not a reliable reader either. He seems to miss things that are right out in front.
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I just read Carson's review. Seems he already has some bitterness toward Nolan for some of his other projects, and it also seems he's looking at Westworld like words on page.

Here's a quote from his review  that resonated with me:

When the pilot ended, I asked myself, “Why would I want to watch another episode of this?” That’s the only question you need to have answered when you write a pilot. Once someone reads your pilot, they need to be DESPERATE to read the next episode.

Yeah that's true, but when you have JJ and Nolan attached to a project, it's an easy pickup for any network. All that hook shit is irrelevant. But in the hands of the readers that frequent his site, you're gonna need one helluva bible & pitch to land a sale of this Westworld pilot as is.
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Can you post a link to the review?

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Can you post a link to the review?

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http://scriptshadow.net/tv-show-review-westworld/
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Okay - I didn't LOVE it. But I am going to watch more.

The production value = A+

The music - a bit weird (a version of Paint in Black in the middle out of nowhere. I liked it - but not sure that I should ")

Acting = A. Could be that I love Harris and Hopkins.

Story = too confusing at times and too many WTFs for me. Are the robots using real bullets??? Cause they sure are blowing things up. Why does a real bullet not work on a human when shot by a robot (see the first Ed Harris scene).

The Robots taking on human traits thing has been done to death. It is a bit tedious. I would probably like it more if the story line focused more on human beings - do they select depravity or heroics for their vacation? etc.

Good enough to continue watching


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Good question on the bullets. My guess has been this: the robots simply can't aim directly at a human. So Ted fired real bullets at Ed Harris, but he always just missed because his program made him.

Now, there are problems with that. For one thing, we wouldn't want a them park where robots fired real bullets, even if they missed. Would not be safe with bullets flying all around.

Maybe there are actually no bullets. They use electronic guns that don't actually fire a projectile. The robots bodies sense the hits and bleed?

So yeah, I am curious.

Also, how is Ed Harris free to run around the theme park decapitating robots? No one is tracking him?

If these questions don't have convincing answers, I will be annoyed for sure.
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Also, how is Ed Harris free to run around the theme park decapitating robots?


He paid for the roam-free-and-decapitated package. It's a bit on the steep side. But he's been coming there for 30 years. He gets a discount.
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I thought he wasn't a robot, didn't he say that the bullets don't hurt him because he was playing the game or something? Gosh, now I'm confused. He definitely comes across like robot with some kind of revenge or vendetta vibes, and I also wondered if papa-robot's speech toward the end has anything to do with The Man in Black.

The scalp puzzle was very interesting, because it implies someone on the outside could possibly be helping him in some way. And how in the heck to they get shrunk into that sandbox? Willy Wonka television shrink microwave?
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He paid for the roam-free-and-decapitated package. It's a bit on the steep side. But he's been coming there for 30 years. He gets a discount.


Priceless


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I thought he wasn't a robot, didn't he say that the bullets don't hurt him because he was playing the game or something? Gosh, now I'm confused. He definitely comes across like robot with some kind of revenge or vendetta vibes, and I also wondered if papa-robot's speech toward the end has anything to do with The Man in Black.

The scalp puzzle was very interesting, because it implies someone on the outside could possibly be helping him in some way. And how in the heck to they get shrunk into that sandbox? Willy Wonka television shrink microwave?


My impression that he was a guest (human) now bored with the West and more interested in investigating the makings of the park


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My impression that he was a guest (human) now bored with the West and more interested in investigating the makings of the park


That's exactly what I was in tune with too, but dude's got that robot-turned-bad thing going on. It's hard to pin down, robot rapes another robot? Maybe he's a robot that's seen the worst in humans and mimics the horrible and good things he's seen. Either way, I get the feeling he isn't human.

Or...

What if The Man in Black was one of the Papa-Robot's prior??! That would be really f'ed up, but I totally bet that could happen seeing there was a replacement robot in the end. What if he has become aware of the Groundhog Day thing?

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That's exactly what I was in tune with too, but dude's got that robot-turned-bad thing going on. It's hard to pin down, robot rapes another robot? Maybe he's a robot that's seen the worst in humans and mimics the horrible and good things he's seen. Either way, I get the feeling he isn't human.

Or...

What if The Man in Black was one of the Papa-Robot's prior??! That would be really f'ed up, but I totally bet that could happen seeing there was a replacement robot in the end. What if he has become aware of the Groundhog Day thing?


I think he has to be human because - right from the get go - he was someone who could not be killed by a robot. We'll see.

You're groundhog day theory may be spot on - hmmmm


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Second episode is on early if you have HBO On Demand.

Gonna watch it here shortly...
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