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Standard horror tropes filmed by a guy still at the Phallic stage of his development.

Ha! Very funny. That stage of development is lifelong for some guys.

Btw, from a female perspective I'm with Rick on this one.



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Well, I've explained it as well as I can. It's not about girls in their underwear, it's about the lengths that the middle aged director has gone to, to manipulate them and the script into getting them into their underwear.

It came across to me as extremely creepy. I don't personally care, but I completely understand why a lot of other people noticed what he was up to, and did.


Yeah, but that director has millions of dollars. If he wanted to hook that up in real life, in private, I'm pretty sure he could easily get it done. He wouldn't need a 9 million dollar movie production to live out his fantasy and have people talk online about how creepy a man he is. Or maybe.... he gets off on that kind of stuff. But I think that's more of a stretch than what you are suggesting.
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It's the way it was done.

Take a standard horror film, shot by some young guy in his teens or twenties. He sets his film on the beach so he can have teens in their bikinis. It's all open and upfront. Standard horror tropes filmed by a guy still at the Phallic stage of his development.

Maybe it's sexist, maybe it's exploitational, but it's within the norms of behaviour.

What's here gives an air of perversion because it feels as though the middle aged director just really wanted to make a film with nudey teens, and then put a huge amount of thought into it about how to get to that point.

1. Why teenage girls? Was it necessary to the core story?
2. Why did he have to undress all of them? Was it necessary to the core story?

He has literally devised a character trait...OCD...of one of the characters purely as an excuse to get some girls to undress.

Then he has one pee themselves.

Then he has scenes of actual child abuse.

It comes across as quite perverted.  

The films you mentioned had a reason for it. This film, it was just there because the Director wanted it there, but he was too ashamed of it to do it openly, and so built a really weird story to try to justify the fact he just wanted to be around young girls in their underwear.

I applaud the innocence of those that can't see it.

Maybe it takes one to know one, and all that.


Don't all Horror films generally create a multitude of ways to have teenage girls undressing as fast as possible just as some sadistic maniac spends 90mins of film time having all sorts of fun with them in all manners of demented ways??

after all sex (in this case: "partial" female nudity) sells right?


now, if Shyamalan is this real life creep that you are alluding to... maybe you're onto something.

But i found it all to be garden variety horror film 101 fodder.
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Aside from James McAvoy's performance, this was the usual string along story crap from this director. He has a filming style that certainly creeps you out, but I often feel this guy is overrated after seeing his movies. He is a hook-master for sure.
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I watched this at work yesterday between phone calls. Not ideal, I know, but it still felt creepy and had me tense up occasionally. If I had watched it at night on a big TV alone, I'm sure I would've got quite spooked by it. I thought this one was great.

Not a big M. Night Shyamalan fan, but in this case he hit a home run.

This film reminded me about a lot of other films, Cybil and Red Dragon the most. The actor was VERY good. I was impressed by how he so easily morphed from one personality to the next.

The three girls were what girls usually are in horror movies. Beautiful, long haired and scantily dressed. Unlike Rick, I didn't find their state of dress being gratuitous at all. Nor did it go overboard, IMO. The first two girls were kind of throwaways in their character. Casey on the other hand was pretty well done, IMO. Her reason for wearing so many shirts. Her history with being taught how to hunt and handle a rifle and the abusive relationship with her uncle. It all played in well. All the pieces fit IMO.

Nice to have seen a good movie for a change...it's been a long time.


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I gave up after 10 mins.

Another shitty thriller with weak characters and predictable plot. I guessed the ending and found out I was right after speaking to someone about it.

Movies where the victim, and in this case victims, have every opportunity to kill the crazy person and attempt an escape, but don't... Frustrate the absolute shit outta me.
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Movies where the victim, and in this case victims, have every opportunity to kill the crazy person and attempt an escape, but don't... Frustrate the absolute shit outta me.

It doesn't bother me at all. Sure we want them to, but killing someone looks easy in movies. I think it's the complete opposite in real life. I don't believe that many of us actually can. We'd like to think we can, but...

Three teenage girls not being able to kill a man sounds more realistic to me than them turning into tough heroines. Also, as far as SPLIT goes, Casey stayed true to her character. She wasn't able to kill her uncle either and put her through hell.



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I should rephrase that.. Weak characters annoy me.
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