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Ledbetter
Posted: May 2nd, 2012, 10:09am Report to Moderator
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Do you think it might be something that would have points deducted in a contest? I entered MS in the PAGE AWARDS and would hate to see it get popped over something like the use of 'CONTINUOUS" in a mini-slug.

Shawn.....><
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Baltis.
Posted: May 2nd, 2012, 10:26am Report to Moderator
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No, you're fine.  If you have any questions, Zoe Zimmerman will be more than happy, prolly in a snarky way, to answere them too.  Just email it.  They're pretty tolerant.

There isn't any one set standard they look for in format... As long as it reads like a script, looks like one, meets the page requirements and has the proper font -- you're good.   These contest are rarely judged on professionalism, but more off a standard of your peers kind of thing.

They also don't flip to page 25 automatically and check for the stupid ass Blake Snyder beat shit either.  "oh, we just gotta know if he's hitting his mark on page 25.  If he's not, this ain't a movie."  Fuck that stupid prick... Dead or not.

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As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew was this going to be about.

Just let me clarify that I never thought Bill used "LATER" incorrectly, just that it was overused IMO in his script which let me add I thought was a pretty solid read.

I didn't count the number of times it was used but it was certainly noticeable enough during the 94 pages for me to bring it up.

Anyway, at least it's raised another interesting topic to discuss.
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Dreamscale
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Shawn, I totally agree with Balt.  Most won't even have a clue it's even a potential issue.

Mark, IMO, if you're using FF or raw footage from a camera, so to speak, using LATER as a Mini isn't quite right.  The film cuts in and out, so IMO some kind of transition is the way to go, and that will give you lots of white and the pace will be realistic with how it would actually play.
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Quoted from CoopBazinga
As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew was this going to be about.

Just let me clarify that I never thought Bill used "LATER" incorrectly, just that it was overused IMO in his script which let me add I thought was a pretty solid read.

I didn't count the number of times it was used but it was certainly noticeable enough during the 94 pages for me to bring it up.

Anyway, at least it's raised another interesting topic to discuss.


Yeah Steve, just to confirm I thought you raised a sound question so thought I should check etc

I have since re read a fair amount and the number has jumped out a me. Most have remained as that's  the way the scenes play out, but I have removed 3 or 4 so far.

Thanks for the feedback


My scripts  HERE

The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville
Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final
Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards.  Third - Honolulu
Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place
IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
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Dreamscale
Posted: May 2nd, 2012, 2:56pm Report to Moderator
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Bill, just how many "LATER"'s are we talking about approximately?
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Reef Dreamer
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Not sure but as I have just removed 10 it was too many. I think it was a case of being lazy and defaulting to this rather than looking at the options.

What I can say is that I have just shaved about a page off, with other changes, and it now sits spot on at 91.

Re reading this, it is clear  I like to use scenes to do more than one thing and often the vehicle for this is to change the time. Eg someone gets more drunk through the night or during a supper with an event at the beginning then at the end. They are separated by a time break. I have tried to made sure there is  a decent reason why they can't be connected so hopefully those that remain are sensible.

Steve made a good call and in one simple way I have tightened it up, a bit like the orphan question. Good old SS!!

I am now quite pleased with the outcome. A couple of scenes still need a touch up, but I think I will submit . After all, I aim to use Dropbox so if anything comes to mind I can still tweak.

One thing I am trying to do, and it's work in progress, is turn moments which make the reader smile, or chuckle, into a laugh. I doubt the humour will be to everyones taste, but we can't please everyone.

I'm really glad I went for this.


My scripts  HERE

The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville
Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final
Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards.  Third - Honolulu
Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place
IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

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Dreamscale
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Right on.  You can never please everyone, but your main goal should be to please yourself, and I adamantly believe that to be true.

Look forward to reading these.

Is the deadline approaching?
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Ledbetter
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Quoted from Dreamscale
Right on.  your main goal should be to please yourself.



It's true!

I walked in on Jeff last night as he was doig just that...

Shawn.....><

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Dreamscale
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Quoted from Ledbetter
It's true!

I walked in on Jeff last night as he was doig just that... :


Now that, my friend, is quite funny.  

And I thought I was all alone...damn!!!!

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Ledbetter
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Quoted from Baltis.
No, you're fine.  If you have any questions, Zoe Zimmerman will be more than happy, prolly in a snarky way, to answere them too.  Just email it.  They're pretty tolerant.

There isn't any one set standard they look for in format... As long as it reads like a script, looks like one, meets the page requirements and has the proper font -- you're good.   These contest are rarely judged on professionalism, but more off a standard of your peers kind of thing.

They also don't flip to page 25 automatically and check for the stupid ass Blake Snyder beat shit either.  "oh, we just gotta know if he's hitting his mark on page 25.  If he's not, this ain't a movie."  Fuck that stupid prick... Dead or not.



Thanks Balt-

I decided not to buy into all that beat sheet shit when I first heard about it here.

Just one man's opinion IMO.

You mentioned getting one in this year to the PAGE-

From what I've heard here, on the mini-slug's, I'm good.

My newest version of MISSION STYLE (according to Don) might be up tonight.

It's what I entered this year and the one in question regarding this thread.

Shawn.....><

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YES!!!  I want to rad the final version!!!  I hope there's a few line about "munching".  

Dude, you know, I like this script and your dialogue is top notch.
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I love LATER slugs...I was reminded recently...Dena, ya can't use later in FF. Duh, but I like using it and when reading it doesn't bother me unless it is overused.
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Baltis.
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Quoted from Ledbetter



Thanks Balt-

I decided not to buy into all that beat sheet shit when I first heard about it here.

Just one man's opinion IMO.

You mentioned getting one in this year to the PAGE-

From what I've heard here, on the mini-slug's, I'm good.

My newest version of MISSION STYLE (according to Don) might be up tonight.

It's what I entered this year and the one in question regarding this thread.

Shawn.....><



You'll be fine, man... If it's in comedy you might see a smooth sail right on through from what I'm hearing.  Horror, of course, is another matter.  We'll see how Frostbite does here... Which I was "this" close to putting it in Drama because it is more Drama/horror than Horror/thriller.  Very deep characters for a horror flick for once.

Best of luck to you in this thing -- And who knows; you might just very well be the last man standing in that Grand-prize slot.  That'd be tops too.  I'm looking to just place in category, nothing more.  If I place in category it'll be money well spent on the professional consultation... if not, I'll be a bitter buffalo for a day or two.  Maybe go to the Casino and take up cigars.
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Quoted from Reef Dreamer


Yeah Steve, just to confirm I thought you raised a sound question so thought I should check etc

I have since re read a fair amount and the number has jumped out a me. Most have remained as that's  the way the scenes play out, but I have removed 3 or 4 so far.

Thanks for the feedback


No worries, Bill.  It was certainly a valid question and its good that you've been able to tighten your script even more now for it.

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