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Does anyone own "Your CUT TO is showing..."? (currently 3158 views) |
Max |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 6:32pm |
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Been Around Ain't nobody write like that, bruh.
LocationUK Posts578 Posts Per Day 0.10 |
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JSimon |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 6:45pm |
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Good books to begin with: Save the Cat Story by McKee the one by Syd Fields, maybe the best, I forget the name
But don't try to memorize these books. Read, absorb, think for yourself.
Break down movies on your own. Look for what works and what doesn't work. Patterns will emerge. You'll begin to see them. Not one pattern, patterns, for there are many types.
Finally, read pro scripts. It can be time consuming to read the whole script, but at least read the set up/act one.
There are people here, including me, who have a lot of pro scripts. Post requests for scripts you might be interested in and someone will help you out. |
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Max |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 6:52pm |
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Been Around Ain't nobody write like that, bruh.
LocationUK Posts578 Posts Per Day 0.10 |
What about Screenwriters bible? Isn't that like the holy grail? |
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LC |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 7:02pm |
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LocationThe Great Southern Land Posts7628 Posts Per Day 1.34 |
This one below is a gem:
How Not to Write a Screenplay: 101 Common Mistakes Most Screenwriters Make by Denny Martin Flinn 1999
But as JS says, think for yourself too. Get a broad overview of knowledge from reading on the subject. |
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JSimon |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 7:03pm |
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I've never read it. this one is good too: http://www.amazon.com/Making-G.....1XW25GQRV8MMQ4XR9885Formatting is easy and just requires practice. It's nowhere near as rigid as certain long time amateurs will convince you it is. Learn the basic rules, then read pro scripts. Recently written pro scripts. You want to learn how to write so that your script more or less feels and smells like a script written by a competent writer. There's plenty of wiggle room within that. Then you want to focus on the important thing: crafting effective story. How can you grab your reader's attention? How can you keep him reading? How can you engage his emotion? build mystery? leave him satisfied? Those are the things that are most important and take a long time to learn. |
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AnthonyCawood |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 7:05pm |
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LocationUK Posts4323 Posts Per Day 1.13 |
I like Screenwriters Bible, great for formatting tips and good in general, but don't rely on any single book, read a few and take the bits that you like from them. |
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stevemiles |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 7:18pm |
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Not familiar with the book in question.
I found 'Your Screenplay Sucks' by William M. Akers pretty useful. Nothing ground-breaking in terms of story/structure but he includes a decent section on writing action/description that I hadn't found elsewhere.
One book I'd highly recommend is 'Writing Tools' by Roy Peter Clark. Though not a screenwriting manual it looks at effective writing across a whole range of mediums -- a lot of which can be applied to script writing. It's helped me no end.
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oJOHNNYoNUTSo |
Posted: June 3rd, 2015, 8:07pm |
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Been Around
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One book I'd highly recommend is 'Writing Tools' by Roy Peter Clark. Though not a screenwriting manual it looks at effective writing across a whole range of mediums -- a lot of which can be applied to script writing. It's helped me no end. |
Writing Tools besties, brah! I review this book once a week. Good to know I'm not the only screenwriter who reads it. |
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Reef Dreamer |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 3:01am |
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LocationThe Island of Jersey Posts2612 Posts Per Day 0.56 |
I have most of the books mentioned above but increasingly don't refer to them.
It seems to be there are the basics like
# Format - how to set it out and keep it lean
# Structure and plot - how to drive it forward and have it make sense
And then you go to the next level which is the subtitles between interaction, character nuance, pacing, common threads, genre and variations, etc
In fact I did look at the screenplay bible for this OWC but then decided it wasn't clear enough, so I did it my way...not sure it worked, but you shouldn't feel constrained if you think something else works.
I have the Writing tools but don't read it enough. To be honest I have been out of writing for a few months with a change of jobs etc so this OWC was a welcome return. |
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stevemiles |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 7:01am |
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Johnny, actually I'm pretty sure I picked up W.T. after you recommended it in a post somewhere. i love that he draws on such a wide variety of writing samples from journalism to prose. Made me rethink my whole approach.
I also find his short chapter approach fits my short attention span perfectly...
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oJOHNNYoNUTSo |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 8:45am |
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Been Around
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Coolness. I found it after attempting to digest more advanced stuff, WT packs it into something that's easy for beginners to understand.
The only format books I have is Screenwriter Bible, though I haven't cracked that open in awhile. If I'm unsure of something, I usually just do it and ask for forgiveness later. |
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DustinBowcot |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 10:00am |
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I read two. Save the Cat and Screenplay.
Read, absorb, give to your kids... or a charity shop, or car boot/yard sale, whatever. I don't need them any more. Like Johnny, I just do whatever I like now. |
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Max |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 10:32am |
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Been Around Ain't nobody write like that, bruh.
LocationUK Posts578 Posts Per Day 0.10 |
I'm just looking for something I can take out and about with me, when I got spare time I can sit down and read... flick through and remind myself of the rules.
Maybe a book which will inspire me a little.
Screenwriting for Dummies is alright, the Dummies series is pretty good tho. |
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Posted: June 4th, 2015, 10:45am |
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CameronD |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 10:52am |
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My wife bought me screenwriting for dummies as a birthday gift. She's not the most supportive when it comes to my hobby. I couldn't help but think she got a little satisfaction from that one. |
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Grandma Bear |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 11:04am |
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LocationThe Swamp... Posts7962 Posts Per Day 1.35 |
Lol! My kids bought me Screenwriting for Dummies a few years back. I wasn't sure how to take that. Never read it...
I have a lot of books on screenwriting, but to be honest, I've only read one of them "How NOT to write a screenplay". I read it back in -06, I think. It taught me a lot of what not to do and it was funny too. I highly recommend it.
I learn faster by being told or shown what not to do rather what to do. I also have a hard time learning anything from reading. |
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Max |
Posted: June 4th, 2015, 12:30pm |
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Been Around Ain't nobody write like that, bruh.
LocationUK Posts578 Posts Per Day 0.10 |
I have a hard time reading books full stop unless it's an information book.
I just can't get into stories like that, novels ect.
Graphic novels I can do, comics I can do, Harry Potter? No. Fifty Shades? No. |
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Max |
Posted: June 8th, 2015, 1:38pm |
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Been Around Ain't nobody write like that, bruh.
LocationUK Posts578 Posts Per Day 0.10 |
Just thought I'd pop in again...
What about a book which is purely about formatting? As in, phone conversations, flashbacks, day dreaming, active voice writing, slugs, dialogue, camera direction ect. |
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CameronD |
Posted: June 8th, 2015, 4:16pm |
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Been Around
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Max |
Posted: June 8th, 2015, 5:14pm |
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Been Around Ain't nobody write like that, bruh.
LocationUK Posts578 Posts Per Day 0.10 |
Nice one brother but I would prefer a book, something I can sit in bed with and flick through. I will keep that link in mind tho, and before you say... I'm not going to print that shit out lol. Paperbacks bruh, paperbacks! |
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