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The Black List 2017 (currently 2808 views) |
Don |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 12:12am |
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AdministratorAdministrator So, what are you writing?
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ajr |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 1:17am |
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Seems so. One script on the list was the subject of a bidding war which closed in October. It's definitely not filmed yet, however I don't think it categorizing it as unproduced is in the spirit of the blacklist. |
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Marty |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 1:17pm |
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It is sad.
I think there was only one writer to ever make the list that was fully unrepresented without an agent or manager. Now most of the writers on the list are backed by agencies, management companies, and even now, producers and financiers.
It should be the best unproduced scripts that are about to be produced.
But hey, those writers are getting stuff made. So good on them. It just stinks that yet another door has seemed to close. |
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Grandma Bear |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 1:32pm |
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LocationThe Swamp... Posts7961 Posts Per Day 1.36 |
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Marty |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 2:03pm |
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Pia,
That is definitely possible.
I'm not one hundred percent certain on how the blacklist works. Whether or not the writers are pooled into to it prior to the release or not.
Although a recommendation from Carson Reeves may have helped Logan gain representation as well.
Cool article. Thanks for sharing.
All the best, Marty |
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Demento |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 6:52pm |
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Meat was on the Bloodlist which comes out in Oct. I think the list is already compiled early Oct, maybe sooner. The writer had managers and agents listed there. So, he may have gotten those managers and agents in a couple of weeks after the scriptshadow review, but I think it's far more likely he already had them. From what I can tell, the script wasn't submitted to scriptshadow. It was just picked for a review. |
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Warren |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 7:34pm |
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Of The Ancients A man who has taught his mind to misbehave
LocationSydney, Australia Posts3897 Posts Per Day 1.36 |
Not trying to derail the thread, but I looked Meat up and read the whole thing.
Wow, what a piece of trash. It’s just horrible. A repetitive story with no real substance. The guy uses the word "just" so many times in the script. He just does this, he just does that. It kind of builds to something then just ends.
Nothing is really explained, stuff just happens.
I know there are constant debates about the rules and yes this Carson guy says the rules will get you a good script but breaking them will get you a great one. Well if that’s considered a great script... yikes.
The writer does break so many of the rules and you know what; yes it definitely affects the script in a bad way. Constant we see, we hear, the red text, the constant, and I mean CONSTANT comic book sound effects.
There isn’t a hint of horror in this script.
Seriously that was God awful, has anyone read it?
We have so many features on SS that are so, so, so much better than that. |
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Demento |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 7:58pm |
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Maybe a manager paid Carson to write a good review in order to get him some publicity.
I'll give it a read. |
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Warren |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 8:09pm |
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Of The Ancients A man who has taught his mind to misbehave
LocationSydney, Australia Posts3897 Posts Per Day 1.36 |
I feel that must be the case. Even his review is laughable, he blows so much hot air up the script and it's not worthy of any of it.
I don't really know anything about Carson but I'm guessing he's just another self-proclaimed guru feeding off the dreams of wannabe writers, and probably making a nice little profit while he’s at it.
I googled him and surprisingly didn’t find a list of his many writing credits. |
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Grandma Bear |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 8:15pm |
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Carson will be the first to tell you he wanted to be a screenwriter, but he sucked at it. He's read and anlysed thousands of scripts and decided to make a career out of that. His blog is VERY successful and he's known for being able to make BIG things happen with your script if he loves it. He has access to BIG studio people and agents and other business inside people. |
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Warren |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 8:31pm |
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Of The Ancients A man who has taught his mind to misbehave
LocationSydney, Australia Posts3897 Posts Per Day 1.36 |
Just saw John August's (a real, paid, successful screenwriter) thoughts on Carson and he definitely disagrees. |
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Grandma Bear |
Posted: December 12th, 2017, 9:07pm |
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LocationThe Swamp... Posts7961 Posts Per Day 1.36 |
Lots of people disagree with him. Many even hate him due to him used to review scripts that were still in production. Still, there have been plenty of writers who have got their scripts into the hands of studio execs and agents thanks to him. Including a handful of people from Simply Scripts. One of which has been produced with James Earl Jones and Bruce Dern in it. |
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Demento |
Posted: December 13th, 2017, 5:39am |
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I once did the analytics and this site has exactly double the unique visitors that scriptshadow gets. If I remember correctly 18K people visit that site a month, while 36K this one. I also remember some guy did the numbers, which are the most visited websites about screenwriting 2-3 years back and scriptshadow wasn't in the top 15. So, I really don't know how successful that site is. I think he makes the bulk of his money from his coverage business. I highly doubt he has any kind of major "contacts" in the business. |
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Marty |
Posted: December 13th, 2017, 11:15am |
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Warren,
Did you read the draft from scriptshadows or the one from the blacklist? I was just interested in whether the script changed much between the two. |
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Anon |
Posted: December 13th, 2017, 11:56am |
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Not trying to derail the thread, but I looked Meat up and read the whole thing.
Wow, what a piece of trash. It’s just horrible. A repetitive story with no real substance. The guy uses the word "just" so many times in the script. He just does this, he just does that. It kind of builds to something then just ends.
Nothing is really explained, stuff just happens.
I know there are constant debates about the rules and yes this Carson guy says the rules will get you a good script but breaking them will get you a great one. Well if that’s considered a great script... yikes.
The writer does break so many of the rules and you know what; yes it definitely affects the script in a bad way. Constant we see, we hear, the red text, the constant, and I mean CONSTANT comic book sound effects.
There isn’t a hint of horror in this script.
Seriously that was God awful, has anyone read it?
We have so many features on SS that are so, so, so much better than that. |
Yeh I read it. And I know what you mean. Although I was kind of sucked in by his plodding but distinctive style and it was - if nothing else - different. |
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