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Dice and Ice by Michael J. Carnevale - Action - Two ex-Marines on vacation inadvertently get caught up in a war between the brutal crime families battling for control of Atlantic City's underworld when one of them falls for a duplicitous woman who has absconded with $100 million in diamonds from the mob.  116 pages - pdf, format


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just finished your script, overall i liked it, it was a good setup for a story.
a few suggestions/ typos if your interested:

p3 kind of obvious way to introduce characters.  they seem to be dialoguing exactly what their characters are.  try to show who they are, not tell.  maybe use the girl and a convo with her to show better
p4 what happened to the girl during this convo?  she just disappears.
when is this set? its been a while since cops used .38s
page 10 cop 'astutely bends down'? astutely?
when the fake cop puts a bullet in the back of head,  maybe more descriptive.  I get that your keeping it undramatic, but a little more would be nice.  'the cop crumples to the ground.' just so we dont read right past it.  also noone hears the shot?
p11, 'here' you, should be hear
also what kind of mask does she pull out?  neads to be a military style gas mask.  This is a cool image to have a well dressed woman pull a gasmask out of a designer purse, then move around in a sexy dress.  maybe show the scene a bit more.
nick and dave saying: "be sensible"  i dont know how u talk with ur buddies, but i would never say something like that.
p17 maybe a little less time between robbery and car accident, just the timeline feels a little off.  just cut nick and daves convo tighter.

Is maria really gonna pick up a guy for no reason?
maybe have some cops glance over to see whats going on, so she hustles him inside to take him.  or he sees shes sexy and wants to talk a bit.

good heist though

thirty year olds talking about dreams?  really?  at least make it a little ironic.  i work in law enforcement, every cop I know is a little harder than that.  they would be laughed out of the station if they showed that kind of weakness.  and the marines i know would eat nick and dave alive.  im sure its not your intention but they come across as pussies.

p24 word on the street?  not something criminals would say.  kinda cliche besides
25 talking to sidney, dont have maria over explain that shes going to use nick.  just something simple, I think i have a way to get the diamonds to newyork

they wiould never put all the criminals in the same cell.  thats interrogation rule number one.  maybe have the hit occur in transit, or at least in a cell with one or two guys, instead of a giant cluster.  they only book people like that who are being arrested for drunkeness and stuff like that.

"shes really hot looking?" people dont say that.  just hot or sexy.
but right after is really good dialogue, funny, full of shit eyes are brown.  good stuff.

I like the cocaine dragon, nice idea.  maybe cut the monologue from Johnny a tad.  its good stuff, just dont wanna over play it.

didnt really understand the difference between the groups at first.  need to make their position clear.  maybe them at the casino, someone points out the bosses.  maybe differentiate in their style of dress, mannerisms, etc.

generalissimo? is that spanish? then right after, you start saying general ortega.  also he brings foreign soldiers on american soil? in uniform?  not likely. better just have bodyguards that look like military.

nice chase scene.  i would rearrange it though so both the ferrari and porsche go under tanker, then ends the same way.  just having the hummer show up and get blown up a second later is kind of lame.  plus the cars going under the tanker is cool, and why not have double the coolness.  then it could all play tight, like both the porsche and hummer on their tail, then blow up the hummer with the tanker and a moment later send the porsche over a cliff.

a hacksaw wouldnt be able to cut through handcuffs.

good move with the dead night manager, they're lucky he didnt get spotted while at their hotel.

typo p 71 the big body guard 'givers'  her a look over,

I like her saying "I cant im the distraction."  thats clever and plays well
since its a bat though shouldnt she yell "home run!"

"rendevous with death?" thats kinda over worded for the character

just my own ignorance, but whats a scarab boat?

no need to say white slavery .  u can just say he'll have uses for you, and leave it to our imagination  white slavery is kind of a good guy term, not something a criminal would say

add a reload for the uzi, most uzi mags have about 30 rounds.  obviously theres a little artistic leeway, but im always groaning in movies when they completely exagerate it.  If nicks an ex marine hell think to grab the extra mag that the guy has, and reload on their way out of the estate.

maybe use companero instead of comrade.  comrade seems a little stalinesque to me.

you kill the momentum the way you write them pulling nick out of the water.  keep the pace up, so the chase is tight.  no scanning with binos.

nick breaks carlos neck? how? why?

kinda unbelievable to find diamonds underwater.  not like gold which you can find with a metal detector.  theyd be sunk in the sand and everything.  possibly if they were still in a bag/container.  

im guessing youre a boat person from the amount of boating jammed into it, i think the last
did he use a stun gun underwater? not possible

kind of trite to have them end up cutely paired off at the end, but I guess I could buy it.  however terri and dave both seem more like sidekicks than real characters.  it definately seems like you like nick and maria more, and theyre just there to be buddies.

overall i liked the story, but I thought the characters were pretty lame.  I could not at all buy nick or dave as cops, and definately not as marines.  they're both kind of bitches.  just changing some of the dialogue to take out the soft stuff, add some balls to them.  
also with nick, hes really going to forgive maria right away when he finds out shes using him?  they can be attracted to eachother and have sexual tension even without actually trusting or being in love with eachother.  let it build for a bit.

oh and two cops are in AC trying to scam the casinos?  I would get rid of that whole subplot.  not only doesnt their scam make sense, its kind of unreasonable that cops would do that kind of thing.  let them just be on a regular vacation, not a lets go seek our fortune and retire vacation.

anyways, definately worth the time to tweak it a bit.  hope some of this was useful.  i would happily read any revised versions you put out.


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