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Posted: August 30th, 2009, 5:48pm Report to Moderator
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Cliff Notes by David Birch (slapshot) (Free the Tribbles)  Short, Romantic Dramedy w/ music - Life imitates art, but can life imitate commercials? - pdf, format


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I enjoyed this story.

I believe that there are way too many characters and scenes for a 12 page short.

It was a very enjoyable read with comedy and romance supplied. The part with the dumpster and the homeless worried about his desert made me giggle.

This was very well written and flowed.
The lyrics were superbly used to finish off the romantic side.
I found a minor typo "employee pasees" sure that was meant to read "passes"; otherwise, well done!

Thank you for the read.


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I thought this was kinda back and forthish. If thats a word.

I understood what the intention was, but it came off a bit confusing with who was supposed to do what and who was supposed to be with who.

The writing itself was good. I just got a bit lost in the clever cell to cell, moment to moment shifting.

The romance aspect was there as was the song. By the way it was clever how it was used.

I think this was a good attempt for a OWC, but it didn't work for me. Sorry.

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This seemed to veer off three quarters of the way through, when it jumped from being Tate's story to Cliff's. Writing style was fine and it read well.
But again it looks like the writer hurried the ending.
Hmmm, maybe I need to read it again later.  Then again, this was a tough challenge!


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Quoted from stevie
This seemed to veer off three quarters of the way through, when it jumped from being Tate's story to Cliff's. Writing style was fine and it read well.
But again it looks like the writer hurried the ending.
Hmmm, maybe I need to read it again later.  Then again, this was a tough challenge!


What he said, but I ain't reading it again. I give more points for writing style though. The Tate part was good.

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OK, I read this twice and I actually spent a lot of time going back and reading. For some reason I had problems with it and I think I know why now.

The nature of Trans Global, the company, was not clear to me. For some reason I missed it and then realized it was an airline company. My mistake. Also, the fact that they were working on the advertising for the company-- I missed that too, even though there's a reference to commercials in the logline. The problem is that it's just not shown enough.

Maybe it would have been interesting to show this commercial getting 'worked on' because I had no idea when this happened:

Cliff (ON HIS CELL)I know, I know...just make sure she
doesn’t listen to the audio when they
start the movie.

I didn't understand what that was about. What audio?

I went back into the script to find a mysterious audio and couldn't find such an animal.

I was confused by this:

TATE (ON HIS CELL)
Old man Denninger thinks I’m a genius.
Tate dumps the files on the passenger seat.
TATE
No, no...I owe it all to you.

What did Cliff do for him regarding the account?

Also, the card was very mysterious to me.

At first I thought it was a credit card. Then I realized it was some kind of Valentiney card.

The fact that Robin was all overly romantic and smooshy wooshy should have been shown more rather than only being told in a telephone conversation.

So I think you missed an opportunity for humor there and also here:

>INT. DENNINGER PHILLIPS & HEWES - LATER

Tate sprints out of the elevator. The Receptionist sees
Tate; stands.

RECEPTIONIST
(waving a note)
Tate.

Tate stops. Walks to her desk.

RECEPTIONIST
(handing him the note)

It’s Mister Denninger. He wants to see
you before you leave. I hope you have a
change of clothes...

**When the receptionist sees him looking like this, I think she might DO something. Like maybe even give him the shirt off her back. (A moment!) Because maybe she owes him and doesn't want him going in all spaghettied up.

The work is verging on excellence. The only reason it falls a bit flat to me is that the characters are a little too cliche cardboardy, you know what I mean.

But it doesn't matter if you can just take your solid technical ability and inject more of that humor and character and then I think you will be laughing. And so will we!

As far as meeting the challenge goes, I don't think that there was romance going on. Cliff didn't want romance. It was driving him batty.

This might be something you could think about in rewrites. Probe Cliff's psychological indifference or abhorrence to it. And show him fighting it tooth and nail. Then, maybe you could have him changing slowly from little things that happen along the way.

Of course, then we are getting out of the short range and into a full feature I guess, but I thought I'd send you those thoughts.

For me, this was a good script to study.

Solid effort!

Give us more to laugh about!

Sandra


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It's well written.

I have my reservations though.

The main problem I had with this script is I couldn't undentify it's main character - who is it Tate or Cliff? what's the importance of the card (what is it - a business card or a credit card).

Few things I couldn't understand - Why would Tate search for a card in a trash, is it possible at all to find such a small thing in a bins in five minutes. When he found what he was looking for - that seemed really unbelievable to me. I couldn't understand what Tate and Cliff agreed upon (something to do with the card again), how did Angela found the card, who loves who...

The song seems wedged in.

I'm sorry, maybe it's just not for me...
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I'm sorry to say that I just didn't understand this story.  First it seemed like Tate was the main character then it switched to Cliff.  But what I was really confused about was the card, the movie on the plane and why Robin was crying.  I couldn't figure it out.  What wasn't she supposed to hear?

I think this needs more focus on the characters, their motives and the plot of the story itself.  

Your writing style is easy to read.  It flowed nicely, just needs some clarity.  
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Ok it seems a few people are confused by this and what was going on. I got what was happening but I can see how it would be confusing.

As I understand it, Robin wrote a card (birthday or whatever) for Cliff, who left it at the restaurant. Tate retreives the card and after telling Cliff what the card says, he gets the idea to use the words in the card as lyrics for the song in the airline's commercial. That is why he got the free tickets, because his boss was happy at the work he did.

As for the ending, I think Tate tells Cliff not to let Robin listen to the beginning because he is worried she will hear the lyrics and know he stole them. But she sees them on screen and instead of being upset she thinks it is a romantic gesture by Cliff and she cries because she is happy. Am I right?

What I didn't understand was why Tate insisted Cliff get back together with Robin. He has already finished his work assignment so why does he need them to get back together or be on the flight? Especially when he seems to want to make sure Robin doesn't see/hear the lyrics on the flight.

Biggest mistake I could see was how is it possible for an airline to have a commercial up and running in only a day? Tate steals the lyrics and the next day they alread have the song recoreded by a choir and playing it at the start of the flight? Never gonna happen.

And as others have said, the main character seems to switch from Tate to Cliff. Pick a protag and stick with them. I thought when Tate went to get the card that we would see the romance develop between him and Angela. But nothing happened with her so didn't think she even needed to be in the story.

Your logline also gave no hint as to what the actual story was about. It is a very vague and abstract question that could be applied to a number of films because it doesn't really say anything. Try coming up with a logline that captures the main idea of your plot.

Was a bit light on romance and comedy, but I can see what you were going for. Overall I don't think it really worked but good effort anyway.

Cheers,
Tim.


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CLIFF NOTES

Pros – Premise. Good writing.

Cons – Vague re: nature of Tate’s work, that the card was a romantic Hallmark-type of card, and Cliff’s relationship with Tate. For the first half of the script I thought the story was about Tate when I read it.

Comedy – The scenes were mostly serious in tone. The dumpster scene was smile funny not chuckle worthy. Wasted comic potential with room full of Suits and airlines.

Romance – Cliff was more scared of Robin and seeing her cry, I didn’t feel any romance vibe. I felt more romance between Angela and Tate.

Lyrics – A romance card which later became lyrics on airline promo video

Writer – Story could use some clarification on key points to pick it up. Setting us up for a twist was a good idea, but several key pieces were not clear to me. What’s the difference between “off his look” and “on her look?” Maybe if the story had started with Cliff looking for the card.

Criteria – More of a drama without much of comedic touch or strong romantic vibe.


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Hmmm...wow...no go, bro.  Lots of problems going on here, from the very first sentence, with 2 passive verbs...it's usually a bad omen when a script starts out this way, and once again, it's proven to be true.

I'm not going to go into any of the technical issues here, but I will say a few things about the story.   Very, very hard to follow and make sense of, and that's never a good thing.  Is this a romantic comedy?  I don't think so.  Too many characters, too much going on (too much that went on, that's eluded to), and oddly thrown together.

The inclusion of the music dosen't work for me, nor does it make any sense as to what it is or what it's supposed to mean.

Sorry, but this is one of my least favorites so far.


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Good. Hit pretty hard in the comedy department...A lot of set up to get to the point of Robin and the airplane...Did she think the song was aimed at her, ala Your're so Vain, or did Tate snarf the lyrics that Robin wrote on the card, which is why she got that reaction? [If it was TATE that opened the envelope and focused on everyword, that chain of logic makes sense, and given it was in Tate's office, it may have been a typo, which is tough because the whole story kind of hinges on that moment. I'm gonna assume that's the case.] Really liked the set up in the dumpster...sending a corporate suit dumpster diving is always comic, like getting hit in the groin with a football-funny on so many levels...Anyway, good characters, crisp descriptions, some romance and some actual funny...Nice job.


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Hmm, this one fell apart at the end. I had to go back and read the past few pages over again and still wasn't completely sure what had happened. If possible, I would recommend having Cliff hunting down the card in the beginning. Then he can call his friend Tate for advice on whether or not to break up with Robin... or fail to get the card in time and Robin breaks up with him, so he has to call Tate for advice on how to win her back. I don't know,... something other than how you have it now where the main character switches halfway through the script. The descriptions in the beginning were over-written as well. Sure they read well and I could vividly picture everything in the office, but considering how little that aspect played into the actual story, you could've used that space to add some clarity to the last half of your script.

I didn't think the lyrics were all that bad and I liked how you formatted the song so that the lyrics were easy to sing along to the music. There was comedy in the first few pages with Tate's story and there could've been drama in the last half if things played out a little differently. I didn't really see any romance though.

I guess you can't expect a perfect script in one week's time and judging from your descriptions at the beginning, you have the writing ability to tighten this one up with more time. Good luck with this one, but not one of my favorites!


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I was confused because I initially thought Tate was the protagonist, but meanwhile it was Cliff. It was a nice story, well told, but ended in confusion for me. Why did they have to sit apart? Why mustn't she hear the lyrics? Did Tate not know they'd be scrolled? Was she supposed to not know he'd stolen her words? Was her reaction completely unexpected -- that she'd consider using her stolen words as a romantic gesture and fall in love with Cliff again?

I'd say it needs to focus on Cliff as the protagonist with Tate as the bad friend who steals the girl's words, but then it all ends happily.
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lotsa confusion, not good conclusion...

i read it once then read the comments. i still don't really get what happened. I'm not going back to read it again.

What the f*** was in Robin's card??? An engagement ring maybe?? Well then they lazy f*** Cliff best get his A** out there and drudge in the dumpster himself....

Alright, little tipsy, Time for me to put me jammies on, i started to read it again, but i got even more confused. Maybe i should put the bottle down. Or am i making sense???

i will check back tomorrow to see if i was....

No romance IMO, no real drama, but i did laugh

James


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