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Posted: January 19th, 2012, 7:53pm Report to Moderator
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The Package by Matthew Layden (TheUsualSuspect ) - Short - Joe receives a package at his doorstep, which reveals a dark secret about his past.  5 pages - pdf, format


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Posted: January 20th, 2012, 10:23am Report to Moderator
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Hey Matthew. Pretty nice little tale. You have a good ear for dialogue, and the dialogue here will probably improve even more after another polish or two.

I had two questions pop up, but these are not really criticisms or problems, just questions. The first was about the flash. Why didn't the little red headed boy run? I couldn't picture why he just stood there and took it when they through rocks at him.

The only other question was why the ghost waited so many years to enact his revenge. I suppose he was just building his ethereal strngth. Was just wondering.

But good work. Packages are a very good suspense technique.
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Hey Matthew,

A good little tale here, it was well written and I couldn’t fault much on the formatting area, a few things I felt could have been capitalised but nothing major.

The story is intriguing, a good ghost story but nothing original. A couple of questions, why wait so long for revenge? Who was the boy who delivered the package?  If it was the same boy who died then wouldn’t Joe have recognised him?

Overall this is a well written, easy readable script which for 5 pages did a nice job of telling a ghost story. Although it’s nothing I haven’t seen before,  I enjoyed it.

Good work.

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Oh good ole group 4.  Ghost story, jazz club, butterfly.  Fun.  

I read this on NYCMM and thought you did a good job.  I read what you submitted here cus I thought you might have changed it based on the feedback you got over there but it was the same version.  I think Kevin and Steve pretty much said the same thing you got over there.  Written well, cool setting, interesting idea but we just need a little more info like why did they pick on this boy in particular and why 60 years later?  Just fill in some holes and you'll have a complete story, maybe even something filmable.  My entry for that round is completely unfilmable because I had it jump back into the 1940's,  But it's nice when you can come away from that contest with a few good writing samples and a huge bonus to create something in just 48 hours, within those tight parameters that could possibly be filmed.  

Best of luck with it Matt!


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I changed the title!!!!  hahahahaha

While it's not EXACTLY the same as the NYCMM submission it is basically the same ingredients. The main response from NYCMM was that they didn't get why the ghost waited so long for "revenge" and why didn't Joe recognize the boy *if* it was the boy.

I was hoping to get a bit more responses before going into another re-write. After the drama that happened on NYCMM, this year will be my last time entering.

Thanks for the reads here.

Edit- The feedback from the judges there wasn't the best either.


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I hate those boards...not posting my work on them anymore but I will continue to do the challenges. I love them too much to stop.  Not to mention I've gotten 2 ideas for features and quite a few shorts I can use for either writing samples or possibly filmable.  Do it for yourself...screw those idiots on the boards.  


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I thought to question why he didn't immediately recognize the kid, but I came up with this explanation to satisfy myself: the mind blocks things out that cause great pain. Of course, it's been many years, the guy runs a bar, probably drinks a lot, but mostly he blocked out this memory in order to live his life.

I do think an explanation for the delay in revenge would help. Did something trigger the revenge?
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Hi Matthew

It was a nice little script for only 5 pages, but as Steve said, why wouldn`t Joe have recognized the red head, after all he did kill him and then shook him to see is he would wake, surely that would haunt him forever.
The ghost didn`t actually kill Joe, it was his own fault he tripped and fell  trying to run, if the ghost had actually tripped him up, it would have been a little more believable.

Overall pretty good

Mark  


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Hello Mathew,

I read the script this morning but didn't have much to say. Your writing at the beginning was very strange but I think it was so tight that you must've saved about half a page which is always a good thing.

Perhaps you should lengthen it a bit and show Joe being a dick backstage before everybody leaves. Or maybe even show him feeling remorse at the start. I didn't really mind the kid taking so long for revenge and felt it was better not knowing.

I think all these extra questions people are putting up should lengthen the short. For the five pages it was, I enjoyed it. If it was longer, I would've enjoyed it more but a solid effort nonetheless.

Good job

Mohammad

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Hi Mathew.
The story is good, but no happy ending.
p-1 Megan is she. You wrote he in one occasion.
p-3 If Edward asks the question, why he beats Ruth?
p-7 I think you mean fast death.
p-9 spelling should be your little girl, not you're little girl, IMO.
I think the bad gguy should have a name. His coworkars have only one line and have names. And IMO it would be interesting to know what is in the package.

I hope it helps

Regards Jahon.
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Jahon you have the wrong script buddy

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Spamming for some reason? lol.


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Hey, Matthew.

A good little ghost story you have here.  I do however have a few niggles but nothing major, and which have probably been asked before.  Why does the boy wait over forty years to haunt his killers or did they serve time for the death of the such boy?

I enjoyed this but felt a little cold towards the characters, even the dead boy.  I didn't really know anything about them, why the two youths were tormenting the boy and why the boy was there in the first place.  all these could easily be answered but then you would stray toward a longer short and some might then ask for more story...in the end you can't win really lol.

As it stands, it was a good short. Oh, but I didn't like the first few paragraphs.  I thought you could lose a few lines like 'it just rained' and 'lucky rat got away'.  Sorry to end on a bad note, should have mentioned that earlier really.


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Hi Matthew - good concise stroy here.

Problem with the red-head of course - but he could have been in shadow etc.

Page 3 onwards had great pace & I enjoyed that.

Didn't have a problem with the ghost waiting so long.

Main problems for me were some setting & visual images:

The damp streets, okay then the cat chasing okay, but I'd say keep the subject (of the sentence) prominent - so that cat misses, rather than the rat gets away. Sounds petty, but we start with a night club, go onto the streets, move to a cat, and then end with a rat. If you remove the 'it's rained' bit, and just have the cat and his actions, then it's tighter, and reads tighter.

At this point I have a scene outside a night club which is deserted - it's almost underlined by the cat - which I like - but then I've got people exiting, so I'm doing a double take, and then Joe's involved so I'm getting 'image discontinuity' (a phrase I just made up):

So better I think is -

The door opens, held by Joe, people stream out, he smiles and snarls - I don't think would be any longer but it makes more visual sense.

Apart from that - good stuff.

Simon
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This script fell flat for me.  I agree with everyone else regarding why the ghost chose this particular moment to visit.  And, while I know it's hard to set up an atmosphere in such a short script, the haunting sequence fell pretty flat with me.  It was nothing I haven't seen in a hundred other movies.

Your dialog had a natural flow to it; I liked that.


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