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Posted by: rock., August 15th, 2009, 1:16pm
I was wondering, If I wanted to adapt a book I read into a screenplay and post it on this site, just for fun only, not to be produced or anything, would it be illegal?  Do I have to obtain rights just to write it for fun?
Posted by: dresseme (Guest), August 15th, 2009, 1:17pm; Reply: 1

Quoted from rock.
I was wondering, If I wanted to adapt a book I read into a screenplay and post it on this site, just for fun only, not to be produced or anything, would it be illegal?  Do I have to obtain rights just to write it for fun?


Sniper posted his adaptation of "Deliverance", and I'm pretty sure he doesn't own the rights.

It's fan fiction.

You're fine.  :-)
Posted by: rendevous, August 15th, 2009, 1:19pm; Reply: 2
I'd agree with Dressel. Write it first, you can investigate the rights issue later.
Posted by: sniper, August 15th, 2009, 1:28pm; Reply: 3

Quoted from dresseme
Sniper posted his adaptation of "Deliverance", and I'm pretty sure he doesn't own the rights.

What are you talking about, Matt. I bought the rights a long time ago ;)

Rock, until some production company picks it up it's, like Matt said, just fan fiction. If they like your script and want to produce it, it's up to them to secure the rights for the source material.

Posted by: stevie, August 15th, 2009, 5:19pm; Reply: 4
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Posted by: rendevous, August 15th, 2009, 6:19pm; Reply: 5

Quoted from stevie
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Posted by: screenplay_novice, August 15th, 2009, 6:49pm; Reply: 6
I've written two adaptions. As far as I know, it's perfectly legal as long as you credit the creators and not attempt to pass the original story off as your own. The screenplay belongs to you, but not the characters, etc. I also think that if your script is optioned, the studio that options it will be the one to procure the rights, but I could be mistaken. I haven't been contacted by anyone asking me to remove the two that I've written, so I'm assuming all is well.
But to be on the safe side, maybe it's best to contact the publisher and inform them of your plans and send them a copy when it's completed.
Posted by: Ron Aberdeen, August 16th, 2009, 5:10pm; Reply: 7
No serious producer or production company will even consider a screenplay that is an adaptation of somebody else’s work unless you have their permission, they don’t want to enter the expensive world of litigation.

And why adapt can’t you think up something of your own?
Posted by: Andrew, August 16th, 2009, 5:15pm; Reply: 8
Ron,

From my readings, it would appear you are right; however, it's not as clear and dry as you suggest. An exceptional screenplay will find its way to production, irrespective of the potential rights issues. Film is hardly a medium to stand still, so consigning oneself - within reason - to a box seems foolhardy.

Andrew
Posted by: sniper, August 16th, 2009, 5:24pm; Reply: 9

Quoted from Andrew
...so consigning oneself - within reason - to a box seems foolhardy.

Especially when the movie industry seems to be locked into a remake-mode.

By the way, Ron...

Quoted from Ron Aberdeen
...can’t you think up something of your own?

...what a nice condescending line.

Posted by: Niles_Crane (Guest), September 7th, 2009, 2:34pm; Reply: 10
As with most issues of copyright, this tends to come down on to the willingness of the copyright owner to pursue matters.

If you, say, adapted a Dan Brown novel and posted the script here, it would be up to Brown's representatives to do something about it. In all likelihood they wouldn't - why bother wasting time and money on something that isn't really hurting them and is, as mentioned, basically "fan fiction". But if they wanted to they could make SS take it down, as an adaptation without clearances of a copyrighted work is indeed an infringement and thus illegal.

I doubt whether a production company would take an option on a script based on another's work if the writer did not have an option - why? They could buy their own option and write their own script - and could probably happily rip yours off if they felt like it - and what would you be able to do about it?

(In the UK the BBC will not even read adaptations - even of out of copyright works)

I would suggest, unless you have a specific adapt in mind, that you might try out of copyright work (I think both US and Europe now have the same 75 years after death rule which gives you some latitude with modern literature). This is what I did when I started writing as it allowed me to learn about script format without worrying unduly about storylines!
Posted by: Brian M, September 7th, 2009, 2:43pm; Reply: 11
I might be way off the ball with this, but didn't two guys write a Wonder Woman fan fiction which the studio ended up buying instead of the Joss Whedon version?
Posted by: Niles_Crane (Guest), September 7th, 2009, 2:58pm; Reply: 12
Apparently it was a spec script by pros rather than "fan fiction" - and submitted to the owners of the copyright (WB). Joel Silver said the purchase was for legal reasons rather than a desire to produce the script - though he did hire the writers to work on a new version.

Joss Whedon, for the record, spent two years on the project (and was reportedly paid $3m) and managed to produce just an outline! That's what I call working!
Posted by: JonnyBoy, September 7th, 2009, 2:58pm; Reply: 13

Quoted from Niles_Crane


(In the UK the BBC will not even read adaptations - even of out of copyright works)



Have to pick you up on this.

See below, a quote from http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/writing/writersroom_faq.shtml


Quoted from BBC Writersroom FAQ

I'm writing a script adaptation of someone else's novel - will you read it?
Although we prefer to see something entirely original as a calling card of your writing ability and potential, we will accept a completed adaptation of a work in script format. Please note, however, that we will not accept anything written in prose, including the original unadapted work.


They may prefer original work, but they will accept adaptations.
Posted by: Niles_Crane (Guest), September 7th, 2009, 3:01pm; Reply: 14

Quoted from JonnyBoy


Have to pick you up on this.

See below, a quote from http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/writing/writersroom_faq.shtml



They may prefer original work, but they will accept adaptations.


Well - they have certainly changed their tune. Back in 2002, when I had a meeting with people from this very dept, they were adamant that they had no interest in adaptations of other people's work!



Posted by: JonnyBoy, September 7th, 2009, 3:03pm; Reply: 15
Ah, then it appears to a classic case of 'say one thing, do another'. Clearly they'll let you send it in, but they'll never consider doing anything with it.
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