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Posted by: Don, August 30th, 2009, 7:52am
In Tune by Steve McDonell (stevie) (Jude)  Short, Romantic Dramedy w/ music - Will the pursuit of a mystery song change the life of a loser?  - pdf, format 8)
Posted by: Grandma Bear, August 30th, 2009, 9:52am; Reply: 1
Hi Jude...

you put your name on the cover page...

The writing was fine, but the story and characters didn't do much for me I'm afraid to say.

First off, Social Security is for when you have retired. Like when your 65. It's not something you get when you are 23. If you're 23 and unemployed you get either unemployment benefits or you're on welfare. I don't know exactly, but I know it's not social security.

This script is very talky. Films are supposed to be a little more visual. Try to break up some of the chatter with something visual. Doesn't have to be anything big. It can be little gestures that would reveal character. Right now we basically just have talking heads.

Although the idea of Luke hearing a song that he likes and that eventually leads him to Robyn, I still didn't by their romance at all. Why? Because we don't really know these characters at all. Everything seems to happen out of the blue.

So, in short, the story/plot itself can work, but you need to work on your character so we can not just believe them in their actions, but to care about them as well. Right now, I don't like any of the characters enough to get engaged with them and their lives.

Hope this help.
Posted by: jwent6688, August 30th, 2009, 9:55am; Reply: 2
Definitely written by a bloke or a lad. not U.S. jargon here.

LUKE
Hey babe, it’s ok. Things are
looking up for me now. A new girl,
some weekend work helping in her
store...Ed’s coffee. What could
possibly spoil my day?

Don't feel he would call her a new girl on the first date...  It is th OWC though.

Was a good read, no real drama though. I think i may shoot my best friend if he had the nerve to date my mom. Sisters and ex-girlfriends are off the chart for friends IMO. But mothers??? Dammm. Joel has some nerve.

Did like the idea of him trying to locate the info for that song the whole time, nice ending too.


James
Posted by: Astrid (Guest), August 30th, 2009, 10:11am; Reply: 3
This was different in that your character wasn't trying to write a song, but instead look for one that he heard. So interesting take. The song lyrics tho weren't very inspiring, but they did tie into luke's desire to have a girlfriend. So it fit.

i loved the opening with Luke at the bank. very funny. I think the dialogue is the part of this script that shines.

The end was funny, but i wish there had been more at stake.
Posted by: slap shot, August 30th, 2009, 10:16am; Reply: 4
i appreciate the excellent format and style...the dialog seemed  a little too straightforward...simplistic...comedy seems best when it's based in reality and then drip the absurd in a little at a time...starting off with the bank scene and the manager's attitude was a little over the top and puts the reader in a state of disbelief right off...anyway, a little massaging and this would move up on a rewrite...nice attempt at a tough owc...thanks
Posted by: CindyLKeller, August 30th, 2009, 12:12pm; Reply: 5
I thought it was cute.
It was easy to read, funny, and romantic. Lyrics were good, too.
The social security thingy didn't bother me. People can get SSI if they don't make enough money or Social security if they are disabled.

I liked this one.  :)

Cindy
Posted by: elis, August 30th, 2009, 12:19pm; Reply: 6
Quite enjoyed this :)
a couple lines by Joel, I really loved.

And betting on a four-legged tin of
dog food isn’t?

Not exactly. I’m just not keen on
going anywhere near a birthing
canal he slid down.

The humor was slight but good.
The romance was minimal but there.

Covers the OWC challenge
So, well done. I enjoyed the read.
Posted by: wannabe (Guest), August 30th, 2009, 1:21pm; Reply: 7
"desultorily"  -  have to admit, had to look that up. :/  

Why is Luke getting Social Security at 23 years old?  Is it supposed to be an unemployment check?

I think you needed to show more of a connection between Luke and Robyn.  For the majority of the script Luke is on a quest to find out who sings this particular song and that seems to be the plot when really his connection with Robyn should be the plot and his quest for the song a sub plot.  

It was also a bit on the talky side.  A lot of the conversations did nothing to push your story forward.  

Nice effort though.  I think with some tweaking this story could really shine.  :)
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., August 30th, 2009, 1:34pm; Reply: 8

I really enjoyed this one. Although it lacked what I consider the romantic element, I felt that it was definitely in the comedic mode.

The bank scene in the beginning was funny to me. It clearly shows this poor schmuck getting a hard time. I think you could use this if you were doing a series. You know, have this guy always going back and getting the same lousy treatment. Maybe he even has a history with these 'bank people'. Another story though, right?

But yes, I liked this one. I got a kick out of the idea of his best friend having a love relationship with his mother. That kind of thing can happen.

I love how he never gets to find out who it's by. It's like you can just feel the frustration.

The use of social security had me confused. We call it welfare.

The lyrics themselves weren't so memorable to me, but the story here is.

Sandra
Posted by: paydirt, August 30th, 2009, 1:46pm; Reply: 9
This piece reads well, flows smoothly with proper formatting. I enjoyed some of the banter between Joel and Luke but none of the characters really developed. The opening scene was a bit of a put-off as well because the dialogue seemed unrealistic. A couple Brit-isms shined through, too. Overall, it was a good read.
Posted by: grademan, August 30th, 2009, 3:15pm; Reply: 10
IN TUNE

Pros – Premise.

Cons – Dialog between Luke and teller was meaner than I would have expected but then it’s been awhile since I’ve been to the Windy City. “Desultorily” doesn’t roll off the tongue well.

Comedy – Conversation-com not so much rom-com. Luke is a funny, spirited, jobless guy. Cranky bank teller. Coffee shop racing addict. Joel, his best friend likes Luke’s mom. Luke and Joel share a single cup of coffee.

Romance – Robyn and Luke are in “like” not “love.” One or two more scenes of
Robyn and Luke would have sold me on their romance.

Lyrics – Integrated into story as the song Luke can’t get off his mind. The song was also responsible for meeting Robyn.  OK lyrics.

Writer – Kudos! Neat way to make your title stick. Proper use of the word “blonde” to mean a female with blond hair. “Muzak” used to be just elevator music without vocals. I guess I am that old to remember that.

Criteria – Adequate comedy and lyrics. A little more on romance would suit this script nicely.

Gary
Posted by: Coding Herman, August 30th, 2009, 3:20pm; Reply: 11
AARRGGHHHH, you left me hanging at the end! I want to know who sings the song!

Anyway, back to the script. I like this script, simple, straightforward, easy to read, and it gives me something to look forward to........BUT you didn't pay it off!

There is definitely romance and comedy. I chuckled a few times. But the romance department seems too easy for Luke. Luke and Robyn are just....together once they met each other. It feels like the romance is only playing a supporting role of the story.

You developed the characters well, especially Luke and Joel.

Your writing is crisp and clear. But you can go easy on the eclipses.

Overall, this is a very solid script in the OWC. Well done!
Posted by: khamanna, August 30th, 2009, 6:40pm; Reply: 12
It's certainly entertaining, I had a few laughs with this.

Couple of things I couldn't understant - like why Trish would pay half the rent because she's got an eye on Joel.

and then p6 - Robyn's line "my money makes you that happy?"

I think it's a good idea - he's searching for a song to find out who it belongs to but never has luck with it.

Luke doesn't appeal to me though, I think you know why. Why Robyn would be drawn to him is a mystery to me.
Posted by: stevie, August 30th, 2009, 6:55pm; Reply: 13
Yeah, this was pretty good; it seemed to fit the challenge theme.

A couple of points - maybe have more background between Luke and Robyn. Like they've met in the street or something. It seems too sudden how they fall for each other.
The song lyrics were ok, and the hunt for the singer made it a little funnier.
I reckon maybe dressel wrote this - it has some similiar characters to his features.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), August 31st, 2009, 12:14am; Reply: 14
This is easily my favorite so far.  Some little issues here and there, but overall, it worked, it fit the challenge genre and also did a great job with the music aspect.

There's lots of humor in here that works...both in terms of actual dialogue and situational humor.  I laughed pretty hard at the Mom and friend "together", and the marriage banter.  Funny.

The weakest part by far is the beginning and bank scene.  The Social Security thing makes no sense, and the bank teller dude is just too over the top.  Once our protags get to the coffee shop, things are well done.

Nicely done in 1 week (or maybe a few days...who really knows).  Best so far for sure.
Posted by: Trojan, August 31st, 2009, 12:49am; Reply: 15
Ok first off, well done on completing the OWC and having a complete story. It is tough to come up with a boy meets girl story and tie everything in when you are working with only twelve pages.

With that said, I had a few problems with this one.

On page 1, you use the word desultorily. I didn't know the word. Why use a complicated word when a simpler one will achieve the same task?

The conversation with the bank teller was unrealistic. Then we find out he is the branch manager and it makes it even more unlikely. No way he would be calling his customers assholes. I can see that the dialogue is an attempt at comedy but it doesn't work IMO because it is not based in reality.

On page 3, Joel says they want to share a coffee to do their bit for the recession. How does that work? By spending money people are helping the economy, by sharing a coffee and not spending money it is theoretically making the recession worse, not better. Just under that line when you have dashes in Luke's dialogue you have them formatted as __ instead of --.

On page 4, Luke talks about his mum having a crush on 'lover boy'. I don't know any guys who would joke about their mums having a crush on their friend. This seemed totally unrealistic to me. Then Joel talks about not wanting to go near her 'birthing canal'. Man if any guy said that in front of any guy that I know, he would be asking to have his teeth knocked out.

On page 5, when Robyn enters the store she gives the boys a friendly nod. I just think it's unlikely that an attractive woman in a big city would be nodding at a couple of strange guys in a coffee shop. It would be more believable if she didn't even acknowledge them.

On page 8, you say it is evident there is a mutual attraction between Luke and Robyn? How is it evident? Show them flirting in some way so it is visually apparent that they are attracted to each other.

In the same scene I thought the song coming on again was too coincidental. However in rom-coms a lot of overly coincidental things happen so there isn't necessarily anything wrong with that. However I would have liked to have seen some flirting between the two of them before she agreed to go out to dinner with him. She is an attractive young blonde. It is reasonable to assume she gets hit on all the time, so the way she accepts Luke's invitation so quickly was too easy.

On page 10, why are Joel and Trish coming from a party drunk during the day? This scene would be better set at night instead of the day.

Okay now one of the biggest problems I had with the story was Joel and Trish wanting to get married. This occurs just a few days after Joel saying he didn't want to go anywhere near her. What the hell happened in a few days to make him want to marry her? Keeping in mind that he is in his early 20s and she is 50. This was the most unrealistic part of the whole story for me. If he is only dating her then I could buy it, at a stretch. Married? No way.

I was also unsure why Luke was SO concerned about finding out about the song. I mean I know it is a plot device, but it felt a bit forced. It was just some song he heard in a bank. And the other thing was that he heard the song everywhere, which would indicate it has been released commercially and would be easy to find out who sang it. How is it possible that the song blares from a car, a kid has it on his CD player, but a record shop that has it as their 'song of the week' doesn't have a copy of it. They would at least have it on file as to who sings it, especially as it seems to be so popular at the moment. So in that respect it didn't work for me.

Okay so overall I thought it was a fair effort but there were too many unrealistic things for me to really get into it. This is just my own personal opinion though and it seems a lot of other people really enjoyed it, so well done. The actual writing I thought was of a high standard as well.

Cheers,
Tim.
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), September 1st, 2009, 2:17am; Reply: 16
This one took a couple reads for me to get it.  I'm not sure why that is, must be a bit tired.  

I thought it was alright.  Once you got into the story and your characters calmed down a bit then it was even better.  

The biggest issue I had with this was the beginning.  It started me off on a sour note where I didn't care about these people at all.  I would definitely tone the beginning down a bit or remove it completely because it really drags down what could be a really good story.

Secondly there were occasions where you went into unnecessary detail.  Like when you mentioned there was a white guy listening to music.  Must we know that he's white, was that really important to the story?  I know, that's very small but I did notice this thing more than once.

Lastly, I think you had way too many characters for a short this length.  I would try to lose at least one of them.   I vote that Joel gets evicted.

I did like the running gag with the song and I thought that was a clever way to include it.

You get
;D :) :P >:( :'(

  
Posted by: LC, September 5th, 2009, 3:27am; Reply: 17
Would a bank manager speak that way to a customer? Actually, I’ll answer my own question – yep, depending on the setting and casting it could be funny, maybe cause of the 'shock value.' But the opening is a bit meandering imo. It's the first time he hears that piece of music, yes - but it feels to me as if the dialogue should be a bit more driven in terms of solid plot.

Bit of a long lead-in up to page 5 and not terribly much happening yet.
Page 8 now we’re getting somewhere. I liked that image of Luke hearing the music from the passing car and then with the other character at the bus-stop. That was nice. He’s hearing that song everywhere – the ‘meant to be’ 'following him everywhere' angle is really good. That was the best bit for me.

But the story stalled a bit for me then.

And, I didn’t really 'see' the ‘mutual attraction’ between Luke and Robyn just by the fact you said it is ‘evident’ in the description line. A gesture, something physical – maybe Robyn blushes, looks away – maybe Luke can’t stop staring – she calls him on it. You get what I mean.

All in all it’s well written ... as usual. The lyrics were nice. I like it, but it's not compelling enough for me and the romance needs to be ramped up.

Btw, (unlike some others) I love a word like “desultorily” thrown into a description line.  
Posted by: sniper, September 7th, 2009, 4:17am; Reply: 18
Good effort. This had a nice cozy feel to it, but I agree with others that the opening scene seems strange. I don't think a bank manager would talk to a customer that way. In fact, I don't think the whole bank scene is neede at all - the only thing we learn is that Luke is unemployed (plus it introduces the song) and that could have been established in the diner scene.

A good back and forth in the diner, nice introduction of everyone.


Quoted from In Tune
Ahead of him, a young white guy sits a bus stop. He has a small portable CD player.

A portable CD player? What is this? The 1980s?  ;)

The scene with Luke and Robyn could probably have been expanded on a bit in order to sell the attraction between the two.

Nice tie up in the end with the characters, a happy feel good ending. I loved that you didn't reveal the artist after all because that would never work.

Good work
Rob
Posted by: Colkurtz8, September 17th, 2009, 2:53pm; Reply: 19

Stevie
This wasn’t bad, had its ups and downs. Parts worked while others didn’t quite hit the mark. The story itself was decent even if I feel you spent too long in the cafe at the beginning as the actual meeting of Robyn and Luke happens all too quickly for me. I know you have a page limit to consider so that’s maybe why it felt a little uneven when judging the comolete story.

I loved the overblown churlishness of the teller. Some could say he was way over done and downright unrealistic but in the spirit of the script as a whole he fitted perfectly and that to me is the most important thing. You gave him some great put downs;

TELLER
Don’t thank me, scumbag. Thank the
people in this world that work. Now
scuttle off to your video game
arcade. Spend your hard earned...

This was a difficult OWC, the genre completely had me at a loss but I liked your simple, traditional love story take on it. The friend going out with the mother was a strange but amusing subplot. I was surprised Luke didn’t take the head off Joel when he came in with her. Instead, we got barely suppressed, silent embarrassment from the protagonist although I realize the whole thing was lightly handled and no doubtably taken with a pinch of salt, not to be over analysed or examined too seriously.

JOEL
Not exactly. I’m just not keen on
going anywhere near a birthing
canal he slid down.  – Good line.

Overall, an ok effort, the comedy succeeded in most places, as I said, some great lines in here. I liked the concluding sequence of Joel and Trish’s arrival, in all its glorious weirdness and mishmash of odd reactions and exchanges from the characters concerned to the finishing punch line which provided an amusing ending. I’m usually not one for closing shot punch lines as in most cases the whole piece leading up to it can seem forced and purely orchestrated to serve the given line but here it was a funny intervention on Luke’s burning question whilst nicely tying up Eddie character quirk from earlier.

Good work, man.

Col.
Posted by: stevie, September 17th, 2009, 4:09pm; Reply: 20
Hey thnaks Col! My OWC has been languishing in the depths so cheers. also rob, i forgot to thank you too. Note - am loving smile empty soul at the moment!! I'm hooked.

Yeah, this was a tough challenge and it was great how everyone did their own tak eon it. this was the first idea I had for mine and I ran with it. Did bugger all revision just edited the page length, so it is a bit disjointed.
How many times do you hear a new song on the radio and you miss who it is!? That was the main story here.

Oh and I might as well reveal the Beatle references:
Joel's dialogue at the cafe when Luke comes from the bank - But Everyday A Total Loser Expects Shit spells BEATLES.
The horse names - Danish Oak is a play on Norwegian Wood   and Broad Ebay is an anagram of Abbey Road.

Cheers again guys.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), September 17th, 2009, 5:49pm; Reply: 21
Stevie, I actually voted your #4 overall.  Your opening was not good, but there were monets that were so funny to me that I had to rate this quite high.  I bet with a rewrite or 2, it could be golden.  I have a feeling teh opening put alot of people off and they probably had a bad taste in their mouths which didn't quite go away.

The friend dating the Mom was hilarious and handled so well.
Posted by: stevie, September 17th, 2009, 6:56pm; Reply: 22
Thanks for the kind words, Jeff. As always. much appreciated and thoughtful.

Yeah, the opening was maybe a little excessive. But I wanted to show just how down and out Luke was. No job, no prospects, bumming around idly. Sure, the bank manager was over abusive but no more than in some comedy flicks.

Joel and the mom just sort of came to me as writing. It added the potential for more funny lines, I guess. No, that's right, just remembered...she was mean to be quite well off from her earnings as a porn star?!!! Didn't go that road but her paying the rent showed how poor they were.

I might go over it again one day. But there's always new stuff on the boil.   Cheers buddy.
Posted by: Blakkwolfe, September 19th, 2009, 7:25pm; Reply: 23
Liked this...Light, breezy and humorous; not laugh out loud, but entertaining enough, especially with the Trish and Joel Hook-up.

The bank teller set up was comical, but completely unrealistic. He might be on unemployment, not social security. Even then, the bank manager hassling him would just not happen. Maybe some other guy in line, though, especially in the current political climate in America where proper manners and treating others with respect is SO 2008...

How does one line up desultorily? Good word, but suggest simplifying. Random might be a better choice.

Liked the banter between Eddie, Luke and Joel...Eddie's a good catalyst, and adding his interest in the ponies worked well.

When Luke pops out the cable from young white guy's CD player, no song would play...they don't have speakers.

The idea of the ghost song that haunts him works I think, but the notion that this big, breaking hit is not accessible to anybody is also a bit of a reality stretch, especially in today's world of mega over exposure. (There was a song in the 90's that described a alternative band that was so alternative that they didn't even exist...Tried to find a link, but to no avail...Wait! Here it is!



Perhaps it was just a song someone posted on Youtube, then vanished without a trace...Maybe Eddie wrote it, and is using that to fund his gambling habit.

Characters were OK, but a little flat. Why is Luke unemployed? Is he in school? A graphic designer? (that'd explain it.) Eddie and Trisha had some personality, though.

Enjoyable read, though.
Posted by: stevie, September 20th, 2009, 1:46am; Reply: 24
Hi BW (sorry, can't remember you're real name). Thanks for the read, happy u liked it.

To answer a couple of your points: I had this image of the people lining up in the bank - its another shit day, ho-hum, etc. Desultorily just popped into my head at the time.
The CD player is meant to be a boom box type of thing. I know it would be awkward carrying it around with earphones but i needed the song to be heard from another source as Luke walked around.
Yeah, I know it was a bit unrealistic that the song couldn't be found but it was the main theme for the story.
Luke and Joel are just unemplyed. I didin't give any real backstory cos it was only 12 pages!!
Cheers again and congrats on your script!
Posted by: Niles_Crane (Guest), September 20th, 2009, 2:13am; Reply: 25
I must have missed reading this one, Stevie - apologies. I had intended to read all the OWC entries, but in the end just never got round to it!

I'll have a look at it later today and post some comments.
Posted by: Niles_Crane (Guest), September 26th, 2009, 1:10pm; Reply: 26
Hi Stevie, sorry this has taken so long.

Liked this - it has a theme which I can relate to (as you may know from reading my stuff). It was nicely written, quite amusing, and the song played a part in the plot.

I would probably have done it differently - made it harder for Luke to find Robyn, for example, have the song play when he sees her, that sort of thing, but then it's not my script!

I am not so keen on the closing scene in the diner, where Luke and Robyn's dialogue, and the idea of Joel and Luke's mother getting together (though I took this to be a joke) didn't really feel as if it fitted into the piece.

Up to that however, it was fine.

I did think that, in this day and age of iTunes that it would be easy to find out the song's singer (especially for Robyn, who works in a record shop!), but at least you avoided the obvious twist - that she'd turn out to be the singer!

By the way, you describe Joel as having a mop of of black hair - so he's a Mop Top then?!
Posted by: stevie, September 27th, 2009, 7:42pm; Reply: 27
Hi Simon, sorry i just realised i hadn't answered your review. Thanks again for the read.
You make a couple of good points. I never thought of Robyn being a singer, that would've been interesting.
the diner scene at the end was critical to lead up to the payoff - once i'd established Eddie and the radio, it meant it wa set up for the song to come on at the end.

Yeah, the sub plot with Joel and Trish didn't fit in, I guess i just whacked it in for comic relief!
Thanks again, glad u liked it.  Oh, and with Joel's hair? If I have two male characters in my scripts, I try and give them different hairstyles to make them more unique. So luke had a crewcut from memory and joel longish hair. A mop to me is sort of short but thick. I think...  

Cheers stevie

Posted by: Niles_Crane (Guest), September 28th, 2009, 12:14am; Reply: 28
I assumed it was a sly Beatles joke, as we used to call their hairstyles Mop Tops here!

After reading this I got an idea about a man and a woman sitting in a diner, listening to the radio - I wrote it up yesterday, and submitted it last night, so with a bit of luck it'll pop up on the boards soon.

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