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Posted by: Gary in Houston, October 7th, 2016, 5:57pm
Don, I'm not sure whether it's worth the trouble or how easy it might be, but could there potentially be a board that might be characterized as "Family" or "Family Friendly?" Something to that effect?  I know I see so many requests from newsletters or posting sites looking for family-friendly scripts.  You know, the type of stuff you might find on a made for TV-movie channel like Hallmark or elsewhere.  

I know a lot of people on this site may not write that type of script, so there might not be a ton of content for it, but rather than a producer having to dig through a ton of comedies or dramas to find what might be pertinent to them, it might help narrow the search somewhat.  There's a big demand out there from producers for low-budget family fare.  Just a thought.

Thanks,
Gary
Posted by: Don, October 7th, 2016, 7:14pm; Reply: 1

Quoted from Gary in Houston
Don, I'm not sure whether it's worth the trouble or how easy it might be, but could there potentially be a board that might be characterized as "Family" or "Family Friendly?" Something to that effect?  I know I see so many requests from newsletters or posting sites looking for family-friendly scripts.  You know, the type of stuff you might find on a made for TV-movie channel like Hallmark or elsewhere.  

I know a lot of people on this site may not write that type of script, so there might not be a ton of content for it, but rather than a producer having to dig through a ton of comedies or dramas to find what might be pertinent to them, it might help narrow the search somewhat.  There's a big demand out there from producers for low-budget family fare.  Just a thought.

Thanks,
Gary


Gary,

Until I can get the search working correctly, I'd have to do this as a primary genre, e.g,

Family Friendly, Drama
Family Friendly, Sci Fi

If you has to pick which primary genre for your script, would you (and others) prefer Family Friendly as the primary category?  And would you consider Family Friendly to also include Faith Based?  

Don


Posted by: AnthonyCawood, October 7th, 2016, 7:34pm; Reply: 2
My two cents...

I think Family Friendly would be fine as the main category... but personally I see Faith Based as a different category.

Anthony
Posted by: Gary in Houston, October 7th, 2016, 10:07pm; Reply: 3
I agree that Family or Family Friendly would be the main category, and then I think anything that is family friendly could fall under that, whether comedy, drama, faith-based, etc.

I think if a producer was looking for something PG-rated, that would allow them to zoom right into what they were looking for.  Just given the size of the market for that type of material, it might be worth looking into.  
Posted by: Don, October 7th, 2016, 10:18pm; Reply: 4

Quoted from Gary in Houston
I agree that Family or Family Friendly would be the main category, and then I think anything that is family friendly could fall under that, whether comedy, drama, faith-based, etc.

I think if a producer was looking for something PG-rated, that would allow them to zoom right into what they were looking for.  Just given the size of the market for that type of material, it might be worth looking into.  


I think that is a good suggestion.  Any other thoughts?

- Don
Posted by: eldave1, October 8th, 2016, 6:20pm; Reply: 5
I think Romantic Comedy ought to have it's own section or at least a separate section under comedy.

I would also like a "Dramady" category.

Maybe both of the above could be sub categories under comedy.
Posted by: Don, October 8th, 2016, 6:58pm; Reply: 6

Quoted from eldave1
I think Romantic Comedy ought to have it's own section or at least a separate section under comedy.

I would also like a "Dramady" category.

Maybe both of the above could be sub categories under comedy.


Dave, et. al.,

Looking back, I've had a lot of submissions for Rom Com and Dramedy, so it makes sense to add as a top level. I hear the call for Family Friendly.  I will add them after the OWC closes.

At this point in time, I can only do one 'bucket' so while I could have RomCom and Dramady as subboards of comedy, they wouldn't roll up to comedy. iow, at this point in time, if one were to submit as Rom Com.  It would only appear on the Rom Com board and Rom Com page.

So, discussion board wise, we'd have

Comedy
     Dramedy *doesn't roll up to comedy, you wouldn't see it in the comedy thread
     Romantic Comedy *doesn't roll up to comedy, you wouldn't see it in the comedy thread
Family Friendly

Do we want to try "Faith Based"?  I don't think we'd get a lot.  

- Don
Posted by: SAC, October 8th, 2016, 7:01pm; Reply: 7
I think Faith Based would fall under Family, as well.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, October 9th, 2016, 12:27am; Reply: 8
Faith based would be good, as well. Might as well go for the whole bag.
Posted by: James McClung, October 9th, 2016, 1:09am; Reply: 9
A family category is an excellent idea. I'd definitely try to incorporate it. Personally, I prefer the descriptor "family" to "family friendly."

Faith-based is too specific IMO, and indeed I don't think it would garner enough entries to justify its existence. I can appreciate the idea of romantic comedy as its own genre (and, to a slightly lesser extent, dramedy), but I also think both are too specific and ultimately open the floodgates for all other hybrids. Which ones do and don't you give their own designated categories? That strikes me as a rabbit hole that goes on for a long, long time.
Posted by: Don, October 9th, 2016, 8:56am; Reply: 10
James and everyone,

Thanks everyone for insight.  I agree that Faith based is a little too specific and genre slicing and be a rabbit hole.  I've checked the sub genres folks have used and these are the numbers:

Dramedy  100
Romantic Comedy 349
Family 86

I kinda think that justifies splitting them out.  I hold it to those three.  Also, I'll be splitting up the shorts by genre, tho not on the boards just yet.

Don
Posted by: eldave1, October 9th, 2016, 11:17am; Reply: 11

Quoted from Don


Dave, et. al.,

Looking back, I've had a lot of submissions for Rom Com and Dramedy, so it makes sense to add as a top level. I hear the call for Family Friendly.  I will add them after the OWC closes.

At this point in time, I can only do one 'bucket' so while I could have RomCom and Dramady as subboards of comedy, they wouldn't roll up to comedy. iow, at this point in time, if one were to submit as Rom Com.  It would only appear on the Rom Com board and Rom Com page.

So, discussion board wise, we'd have

Comedy
     Dramedy *doesn't roll up to comedy, you wouldn't see it in the comedy thread
     Romantic Comedy *doesn't roll up to comedy, you wouldn't see it in the comedy thread
Family Friendly

Do we want to try "Faith Based"?  I don't think we'd get a lot.  

- Don


I like this
Posted by: Warren, October 23rd, 2016, 5:02pm; Reply: 12
I’m slightly confused by the site redesign.

At the moment there are two short horror threads, one stand alone one in the unproduced threads and one in the new short scripts thread.

Is that a mistake, or will certain horror shorts go to one and not another for any particular reason?

Also does this now mean the old short scripts thread is no longer in use, as far as adding more shorts? Will everything be subdivided?
Posted by: Don, October 23rd, 2016, 5:43pm; Reply: 13

Quoted from Warren
I’m slightly confused by the site redesign.

At the moment there are two short horror threads, one stand alone one in the unproduced threads and one in the new short scripts thread.

Is that a mistake, or will certain horror shorts go to one and not another for any particular reason?

Also does this now mean the old short scripts thread is no longer in use, as far as adding more shorts? Will everything be subdivided?


Pay no attention to the Fat Little Man behind the screen...  Move along.  Nothing to see here.  



Posted by: Warren, October 23rd, 2016, 5:50pm; Reply: 14
I'll move along because I have no idea what that means haha.
Posted by: Don, October 23rd, 2016, 5:57pm; Reply: 15

Quoted from Warren
I'll move along because I have no idea what that means haha.


It means I'm mucking about on the boards.  I'll 'splain myself when I'm done.

- Don
Posted by: Warren, October 23rd, 2016, 6:12pm; Reply: 16
Ah... no worries.

Cheers
Posted by: Don, October 23rd, 2016, 6:29pm; Reply: 17
Here is the deal.  I originally set up the sub genre of short scripts as a sub-board off short scripts.  The only problem is that it effectively hid the short scripts by genre, so I deleted the sub-board and re-created the short sub genres on equal footing with the other feature genres.  I thought it was important since shorts is really the bread and butter of the site and hiding them does no one any good.

You just happened to catch the board in the middle of this process, hence the duplication.  Everything should be sorted, now.


- Don
Posted by: Athenian, October 24th, 2016, 12:40am; Reply: 18
Hey Don,

Thanks for all your efforts here. I do think that having all the shorts in one place is more convenient than having to click in and out of eight different sub-forums. Older shorts, yes, could be divided according to their genre in an archive or something. But new shorts should all be in a single forum, IMO. It's what most people here read and discuss about.

Just my two cents.

Manolis
Posted by: MarkRenshaw, October 28th, 2016, 9:27am; Reply: 19
My 3.78 euros,

From a guy interested in reading and reviewing the odd script every now and again, I find the 'everything sub-catagorized' makes the forum look too cluttered and I don't want to click in and out of each one to review scripts. So from that angle it is off-putting.

However, if I was to put my producer's hat on and I was looking specifically to make a short sci-fi script, the new format does help.

So general reviewing not so good, specific searching is good!  

-Mark
Posted by: Warren, October 29th, 2016, 12:24am; Reply: 20
100% agree with the comment above.

So as I'm a reader I kinda preferred them all togeather.

I will however adapt and overcome  :)
Posted by: Athenian, October 29th, 2016, 5:02am; Reply: 21
What about creating a "New Short Scripts" section? That way, all the new scripts could be found in one place for a couple of months and then be categorized by genre. Or they could appear both in the "New" and sub-genre sections simultaneously.
Posted by: Don, October 29th, 2016, 12:03pm; Reply: 22
Mark, Manolis, Warren, et.al.,

Yes, with regard to reading, having one short category makes it easier (if you will read shorts regardless of genre) to read shorts.  However, from a producer/filmmaker perspective, overwhelmingly the criticism has been that everything is lumped together.  So, in an attempt to make the site a little more producer friendly, I've split out the shorts and added the option to add production related comments to the posting.  


Quoted from Athenian
What about creating a "New Short Scripts" section? That way, all the new scripts could be found in one place for a couple of months and then be categorized by genre. Or they could appear both in the "New" and sub-genre sections simultaneously.


Manolis,

This is a good idea, however it may prove to be a little labor intensive.  I might use the generic shorts category for this and then move the scripts to the respective short genre after a week or so.  

No promises on this, tho.  I'd like to see how these short sub cats works for a bit.

*Edit: The short answer is that I'm not blowing off the suggestions made here, it is just that these changes were made as a result of a number of suggestions over the past year to make the postings more 'producer friendly'.

- Don
Posted by: MarkItZero, October 29th, 2016, 3:38pm; Reply: 23
I was gonna suggest something along the lines of a new shorts section but I suspected it'd be way too time-consuming for you to keep track of when and which particular scripts need to be shifted out.

Two other ideas:

1) Just post each short twice. Once in the general shorts category and again in the specific genre category. The readers/commenters can stick to the one big folder and producers can still find scripts based on genre (although there won't be any comments for them to look at).

2) Add a third "portal" button - this one will only show a list of your recent threads (as in only threads Don has created). If possible, narrow it down to only short script threads you've created. That should let people go on and find all the recent shorts you've posted in one place.

Posted by: alffy, January 1st, 2017, 5:50am; Reply: 24
I'm wondering why after implementing sub genre short threads there is still a general short thread?  This thread surely should be fazed out as people will still use it and therefore make the new threads almost pointless, doesn't it?
Posted by: Don, January 1st, 2017, 9:49am; Reply: 25

Quoted from alffy
I'm wondering why after implementing sub genre short threads there is still a general short thread?  This thread surely should be fazed out as people will still use it and therefore make the new threads almost pointless, doesn't it?


Alffy,

It will be some time before the general short thread goes away.  There are a lot of scripts there to move.  All new shorts submitted since implementation and on request scripts are posted/moved to the new threads.

- Don
Posted by: alffy, January 2nd, 2017, 9:55am; Reply: 26
Oh okay Don, I never thought about moving all the shorts from one thread to others lol.
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