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Posted by: Hallucigenia, November 13th, 2022, 10:00pm
I have a character that is physically in a location, but is mentally somewhere else.

In the physical "reality" the character is performing actions.

In the mental "reality" she is interacting with another person in that mental "reality".

There is no dialog in the physical reality. I wrote the scene based in the mental reality and have written the physical reality as Shots in the scene as that was the most straight forward way to go about it.

However, I've got a scene I haven't written yet where there is interaction and dialog in both the physical and mental realities that is all taking place at the same time. Stacking the scene separately won't work as some back and forth between the physical and mental realities will take place.

I'm looking for the optimum formatting method. The best idea I've had so far is really short scenes going back and forth. Is there a better way?
Posted by: LC, November 13th, 2022, 11:37pm; Reply: 1
I really think you need to post an example.

You can employ lots of different methods - split scenes or imaginary scenes playing out in a character's head or for example - alternative realities, Intercuts, inner dialogue, stream of consciousness, split screen/dual dialogue, all contrary to action taking place, but more info is needed imho, for clarity.
Posted by: Hallucigenia, November 14th, 2022, 12:17am; Reply: 2
Sure thing. Here is a sample of bogus script formatted in the same way I wrote the scene:

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INT. MENTAL REALITY

Liberty stares at Jesus the Barbarian, unable to look away. Jesus the Barbarian dances.

JESUS THE BARBARIAN
I am speaking now.

Jesus the Barbarian leans in close to Liberty to scare her. Liberty tries to block him with her arm.

LIBERTY IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD: LIBERTY'S ARM JERKS.

JESUS THE BARBARIAN
Do you imagine that will stop me?

====

For the shits in the script I wrote the "LIBERTY IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD:" on each shot for clarity.

That works alright, but not if there is a lot of back-n-forth between the mental reality and the physical reality. Especially if there is dialog in the physical world.
Posted by: Matthew Taylor, November 14th, 2022, 4:30am; Reply: 3
The main aim is to make it as clear and succinct as possible.

"LIBERTY IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD" seems cumbersome to me, she must actually be in a location in the physical world, so why not use that? E.g HOSPITAL WARD

Once both locations have been set up with full sluglines, I would use mini slugs to cut between the two.


Quoted Text
MENTAL REALITY

Liberty stares at Jesus the Barbarian, unable to look away. Jesus the Barbarian dances.

JESUS THE BARBARIAN
I am speaking now.

Jesus the Barbarian leans in close to Liberty to scare her. Liberty tries to block him with her arm.

HOSPITAL WARD

Liberty's arm jerks.


MENTAL REALITY

JESUS THE BARBARIAN
Do you imagine that will stop me?


Then you can add dialogue into both locations without issue.

Is "Mental reality" an oxymoron? personally, I would change "Reality" to something else.
Posted by: Hallucigenia, November 14th, 2022, 5:03am; Reply: 4
Hmm. I'll try it, but it seems awkward somehow. Awkward, but workable. It is just a "short scene" methodology.

Mental reality is an oxymoron, but that's fine as it's only an example.
Posted by: LC, November 14th, 2022, 5:10am; Reply: 5
I don't know...
'Mental reality' doesn't seem apt for a slugline. A slugline is a set up for a location in which to film. Are we inside his brain? Inside a brain as SFX could be.
Is that really what it is?

I'm a bit confused.
:)
Posted by: Hallucigenia, November 14th, 2022, 5:50am; Reply: 6
"Mental Reality" was only used for the example formatting. Likewise, Jesus the Barbarian and Liberty were made up for the example.
Posted by: AlsoBen, November 14th, 2022, 6:00am; Reply: 7
You've overcomplicated it. Just write the closest approximation of the actual location. You don't need to specify in the slugline which is real and which is internal or imagined. The reader should figure out from context clues just like the viewer.

Eg. if he is in his bedroom in reality, that's a normal slug obviously. And then when imagines he's in his mother's womb (or whatever), just write - INT. WOMB " or "INT. VELVEETA'S UTERUS"
Posted by: Matthew Taylor, November 14th, 2022, 6:01am; Reply: 8

Quoted from Hallucigenia
Hmm. I'll try it, but it seems awkward somehow. Awkward, but workable. It is just a "short scene" methodology.

Mental reality is an oxymoron, but that's fine as it's only an example.


Fair enough. If you are only showing quick action in the reality part of the scene, then your original example seems clear enough.

Similar to this under the "Doing Less" headline https://johnaugust.com/2015/short-cut-aways-and-the-value-of-back-to

If you wanted to add dialogue then I would go for the short scenes or possibly intercut.
Posted by: Hallucigenia, November 14th, 2022, 6:31am; Reply: 9
I think August's advice is perfect in this situation. Thank you.
Posted by: eldave1, November 14th, 2022, 12:39pm; Reply: 10
Not sure if this will help you or not.

Anyway - I wrote a feature that bounced back and forth between the real world and a VR world (like yours - the events were happening at the same time).

Maybe the formatting I used will help you out - just blow through the first ten pages (link follows) and see if that is something format wise that you can use.

https://www.simplyscripts.com/scripts/DarkWorld.pdf
Posted by: Hallucigenia, November 15th, 2022, 8:26pm; Reply: 11
Eldave1, in the end I've gone your route. It's simple and clear.
Posted by: eldave1, November 16th, 2022, 12:16pm; Reply: 12

Quoted from Hallucigenia
Eldave1, in the end I've gone your route. It's simple and clear.


Glad it helped
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