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DustinBowcot
Posted: May 11th, 2016, 2:25pm Report to Moderator
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Of course superhero and comedy go together. It's perfect fodder. I also disagree on the 6 page limit being a limitation in terms of making or breaking your story. Plenty of other writers managed it... indeed, in terms of entertainment, this has been a very successful OWC. Stop making excuses, stop looking for sympathy.
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Good job Glenn, really enjoyed this one!


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DanC
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I can't agree Dustin.

Superheroes and light-heaertedness go hand-in-hand.  Superheroes and funny situations go together.  But, straight comedy doesn't really work.  Yes, stuff like the Flash and similar shows have comedy, but, they aren't comedic in nature.  It's hard to have people falling to their deaths (in Supergirl) as funny, or how Barry's mom died (in Flash) as funny.

I know this has been a huge discussion in the past, but, comedies shouldn't have death in them, unless the entire show is about death (like Death Becomes Her - not debating if it succeeded or not).  I didn't care for one of the worse offenders of death in a comedy, ie Turner and Hooch.  I saw it in the theater and everyone hated it.  The damn dog died.  How is that funny??

And to create a world (that's believable for the suspension of disbelief) in a world 0f supers is very difficult.  Sure, it can be done, and it was done, but, how well was it done?  Was there something as special as "The Elevator most belonging to Alice?"  

All 3 conditions just didn't allow for it.


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Thanks Dan and Anthony. Glad to hear you both enjoyed it.

My main worry was that the humour would be too Irish.  Some people confirmed that was the case. However, a lot of people got it.

I had no qualms at all with the superhero-comedy aspect of the challenge. I think it's quite easy to have a 6 pager about a superhero that's funny. This OWC shows that, many funny scripts. Although not superhero films, there are many successful and hilarious comedies with involving supernatural beings. All you need is a slight tweak to make it a hero film. An example is "What We Do In The Shadows", a mockumentary about vampires and werewolves. Not heroes, but have powers others don't.  A little tweak and you can think of how to put superheroes in similar situations.

WWDITS is amazing and I've watched it a countless number of times and influenced me highly while I was writing SuperMick.


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There are so many superhero comedies that I just don't know where to start. Google search it yourself. There are comedy films, sketches, short films, sitcoms, made all the time. There was one in my country that ran for six seasons, My Hero. It was actually quite funny. It was all about a superhero alien having a relationship and eventually even a superpower endowed baby with an Earth woman. They went through all the usual relationship and life issues. I've seen superhero comedies in various forms, countless times. It's a veritable genre unto itself.

So, superhero and comedy most certainly do go together. This has also been proven by this OWC. Look at all the successful scripts. Yours not being one of them, certainly isn't the fault of the parameters, is it. If you look deeper, and with more honesty, you'll see where the blame truly lies.
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Mystery Men, starring Ben Stiller, is another example of a comedy with superheroes. It's been a while since I watched it but I remember it being decent. Hancock was a comedy, albeit pretty shite. My Super Ex-Girlfriend was a rom-com, and again, pretty shite. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are plenty more.


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Quoted from DustinBowcot
There are so many superhero comedies that I just don't know where to start. Google search it yourself. There are comedy films, sketches, short films, sitcoms, made all the time. There was one in my country that ran for six seasons, My Hero. It was actually quite funny. It was all about a superhero alien having a relationship and eventually even a superpower endowed baby with an Earth woman. They went through all the usual relationship and life issues. I've seen superhero comedies in various forms, countless times. It's a veritable genre unto itself.

So, superhero and comedy most certainly do go together. This has also been proven by this OWC. Look at all the successful scripts. Yours not being one of them, certainly isn't the fault of the parameters, is it. If you look deeper, and with more honesty, you'll see where the blame truly lies.



Oh, I wasn't trying to have sour beans.  I know my script was bad.  I fully admitted it.  The idea was too long.  Each idea that I had was too long for the OWC.  

Honestly, while there were a few good scripts, I don't think the overall quality was that good.  I don't think the scripts had either superheroes (the seamstress) or comedy (quite a few) in them.  

Perhaps your story did do okay Dustin, and you certainly have more experience then I do.  So, perhaps you can mash stuff better then I.  

My biggest issue was i couldn't find a scenario that I could fit on 6 pages.  Plenty of scripts that I read seemed like a joke that was played out.  Or a sketch.  Not really a fully formed idea.  

Certainly, I have to get better, I can't and won't argue that, but, I bet if you took a poll at the amount of people who liked the trio of the OWC (comedy, superhero, 6 page story) that a large percentage of people would say that it wasn't an optimal arrangement for any sort of unique story.

And honestly, again, I've never seen a naked gun mixed with superheroes.  Sure, they might exist, but, are they good?  Superhero and comedy aren't a good mix.  I've not seen Ant-man.  That might be the tentpole to build off of.  But, thus far, none of the Marvel movies have been comedies.  They've had funny elements in them, but, they are clearly adventure or action adventure.

Or perhaps my definition of comedy differs from yours.  To me, comedies are like Naked Gun, a Fish called Wanda,    Planes, trains, automobiles, Uncle Buck (it was bad, I know) etc.  Those are comedies.  Outside of Ant-man, which I have not seen, I can't think of a superhero movie that fits that definition of a comedy.

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Quoted from IamGlenn
Mystery Men, starring Ben Stiller, is another example of a comedy with superheroes. It's been a while since I watched it but I remember it being decent. Hancock was a comedy, albeit pretty shite. My Super Ex-Girlfriend was a rom-com, and again, pretty shite. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are plenty more.


You got me.  Certainly, my super-ex was a comedy.  It was bad, which leads me to the point that superhero and comedy don't mix.  I liked Handcock, at least till the end.  Such a downer.

I don't know if I consider Handcock to be a comedy.  I think it's an action adventure that has comedic elements in it.  Movies are so mashed today, and rarely fit under one tentpole.


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I did enjoy this and as you can see from the OWC thread, it is in my top 3. The 6 page limit didn't break this but it forced you into the quick dragon ending a bit too abruptly. I echo what others have said in that this certainly deserves fleshing out into a longer 'short' and I certainly would be interested in reading the further adventures of this Irish hero.


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DustinBowcot
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Quoted from MarkRenshaw
The 6 page limit didn't break this but it forced you into the quick dragon ending a bit too abruptly.


Rather than the 6-page limit being the cause of this, wouldn't it be more likely to be the time scale? It would be possible to come up with an alternate ending that comes to the same or perhaps even lesser page count if he had longer to come up with one.

I think he shouldn't worry about page count on the rewrite, but at the same time, not deliberately want to go over it in the belief that is what it needs to make the story better.

If I had more time I would have written a shorter letter, is a quote we should all take heed of. A strong writer can say a lot in a very small space. A bad writer drones on and on... and on.
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WWDITS is genius!

As to other examples of superhero comedies, Kickass, Toxic Avenger, Sky High, Condorman, The Mask, Zebraman... although how funny they are is obviously subjective.


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