No reveals yet.


It kinda spoils the fun and there's not too long to go now.

I don't see anything revealing, Warren, and I didn't delete anything either.

Maybe someone else did for fear it might cause a chain reaction.

Quoted from Warren ...or as Jeff has pointed out several times, I'm not that smart...

I'd definitely take that with a pinch of salt. With your latest script, my estimation of you as a writer has gone sky high. It's a very smart story. Way more impressive than those easy horrors you were churning out. The reason I marked it down is that I saw the use of child abuse as a tactic. If I go with the pang in my heart, it's a great story, if I go with the knowledge that this is a story device used as a tactic to win an OWC... it's middle-of-the-road.

Quoted from LC No reveals yet. It kinda spoils the fun and there's not too long to go now. I don't see anything revealing, Warren, and I didn't delete anything either. Maybe someone else did for fear it might cause a chain reaction.

No I didn't see anything, just jumped the gun. My bad.

Quoted from DustinBowcot I'd definitely take that with a pinch of salt.

I definitely do, I was just being facetious. I very rarely take anything he says onboard and have strongly advised other writers not to either.

Quoted from DustinBowcot With your latest script, my estimation of you as a writer has gone sky high. It's a very smart story. Way more impressive than those easy horrors you were churning out. The reason I marked it down is that I saw the use of child abuse as a tactic. If I go with the pang in my heart, it's a great story, if I go with the knowledge that this is a story device used as a tactic to win an OWC... it's middle-of-the-road.

Thanks. I was actually just saying to another SS member the other day that I'm quite over writing horror. I'm going to be playing in the comedy and drama pool for awhile I think.

Some very, very excellent notes from LC on the script Reap What You Sow. The writer will be very grateful.

Official word from Don. Votes are in and are being tallied. You can go ahead and out yourselves and respond to your script threads.  

Thanks Zack for a great challenge!

It appears Warren has already outed himself, although I don't see it here anywhere.

maybe he just tells other writer buddie which is his, in hopes of getting better reviews, and a "win".

Writers, take note, DO NOT LISTEN TO MY ADVICE...EVER!!!!!

Warren's 2 or 3 lines of feedback will be all you need to become the bestest writer ever!!

The post on his thread was deleted by LC this morning (your night) before Don gave the official OK for the 'outing'. I'll still leave it to Warren to officially reveal his script, as it's not my place to do so.

Quoted from DustinBowcot The post on his thread was deleted by LC this morning (your night) before Don gave the official OK for the 'outing'. I'll still leave it to Warren to officially reveal his script, as it's not my place to do so.

Gotcha.  I know which one's his.

Quoted from Dreamscale It appears Warren has already outed himself, although I don't see it here anywhere. maybe he just tells other writer buddie which is his, in hopes of getting better reviews, and a "win". Writers, take note, DO NOT LISTEN TO MY ADVICE...EVER!!!!! Warren's 2 or 3 lines of feedback will be all you need to become the bestest writer ever!!

Jeff, I can't tell if you guys are best buddies or sworn enemies.  But lots of ball bustation going on between the two of you.    

Quoted from ericdickson Jeff, I can't tell if you guys are best buddies or sworn enemies.  But lots of ball bustation going on between the two of you.

We are not friends...at all.

Warren hates me and thinks everything I have to say is bad advice.

Quoted from Warren I definitely do, I was just being facetious. I very rarely take anything he says onboard and have strongly advised other writers not to either.

It's all good you not taking his advice - it's obviously completely your decision. Your an accomplished writer with your own style and views.

But it's not very helpful to steer other writers (especially new ones) away from his advice - It's up to them to see the value in it or not.

Don't get me wrong, I do not agree with everything Jeff says, his views on asides/wrylies/stringently sticking to rules/realism:
BUT I would be lying if I said his advice has not helped me. A few times during writing I incorporate it, I think "will Jeff hate this slug?" and most of the time it's a yes, so I change it up.

On the flip side, you have also offered me advice which has helped and continues to help - But I don't agree with everything you say either.

The value in this place is not relying on a single persons advice - but getting as much advice as possible, seeing trends and ultimately making your own decisions on your own writing and stories

Quoted from Matthew Taylor It's all good you not taking his advice - it's obviously completely your decision. Your an accomplished writer with your own style and views. But it's not very helpful to steer other writers (especially new ones) away from his advice - It's up to them to see the value in it or not. Don't get me wrong, I do not agree with everything Jeff says, his views on asides/wrylies/stringently sticking to rules/realism: BUT I would be lying if I said his advice has not helped me. A few times during writing I incorporate it, I think "will Jeff hate this slug?" and most of the time it's a yes, so I change it up. On the flip side, you have also offered me advice which has helped and continues to help - But I don't agree with everything you say either. The value in this place is not relying on a single persons advice - but getting as much advice as possible, seeing trends and ultimately making your own decisions on your own writing and stories

  

I'll settle this.  Both Warren and Jeff have pissed me off to the point of wanting to chuck my laptop across the room.  

However...

Their criticisms have pushed me to complete a feature draft of my OWC.  

I've found their blunt honesty has helped push me to fix mistakes and work on my weaknesses as a writer.  

In a way, I find their criticism comes from the heart.  That they actually care.  In contrast to someone like Phil Clarke, Jr. (who is thankfully no longer active) who simply loved the smell of his own farts.    

I'm not sure if I should out myself quite yet, but I have finished a feature version of my OWC.  It might explain why it reads like the first 12 pages of a feature and not a short.  

Quoted from Matthew Taylor But it's not very helpful to steer other writers (especially new ones) away from his advice - It's up to them to see the value in it or not.

This is my view and advice. Like anything else I say you can either take it or leave it. I've never said that anything I say is gospel, and most of the time I talk about seeing what other writers are doing.

The main issue with Jeff's advice is that he has hard line views on things that aren't really issues.

I think it is especially valuable letting new writers know that the things he often passes off as fact s are generally not the case. Obviously they can make up their own minds.

Release the Kraken!!!