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kev
Posted: August 15th, 2007, 2:50pm Report to Moderator
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Gotta say, I've always been cautious about putting my scripts on here but the more I see this support for stolen work makes me that much more confident in posting! haha, it's nice to see people have respect for that and I know I'd never steal a script from this site because it will be found and you'll be hunted down!!


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dogglebe
Posted: August 15th, 2007, 2:51pm Report to Moderator
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I've found all three copies that I've downloaded, only I can't run it through the converter.  Each time I try, I get a formatting error.


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Shelton
Posted: August 15th, 2007, 3:29pm Report to Moderator
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What does the error message say?

Did you put the .flv at the end of the file name when you created it?


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http://www.zamzar.com/url/
^ that site is GOLDEN, never had a problem with it and used it on many computers. If that other site isn't working try out that one, it's a bookmark worthy site!!


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dogglebe
Posted: August 15th, 2007, 8:53pm Report to Moderator
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And in related news, Chris Pender has also plagiarized Not Even Death.  This talentless hack posted several scripts here on Simplyscripts, including the shitburger Days of the Damned

Pender also plagiarized Randy Robinson's Dementia.

The best part is, Pender, much like the other guy, never even changed any of the characters' names or titles of the works he stole.

Don't believe me?  Click here


It just gets better and better....


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Shelton
Posted: August 15th, 2007, 9:05pm Report to Moderator
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Wow...just wow.


That's ridiculous.


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All this is awfully exciting. You should check around at Free Domain Script websites, Phil, and see if your script is up on one. If they stole it, this guy could've gotten it from there.

-Chris
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dogglebe
Posted: August 15th, 2007, 9:14pm Report to Moderator
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I don't find this exciting at all....

The first guy actually told me in an e-mail that he got the script from here.  He didn't see my name attached to it and simply took it.  He apologized for the mishap (his actual word).

Chris Pender is a talentless piece of shit.  If you were to look at even a few pages of his work, you would see that he couldn't have written Not Even Death.


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Shelton
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So is the guy going to correct the "mishap" and put your name in the credits, or are you just making him take it down?


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dogglebe
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Quoted from Shelton
So is the guy going to correct the "mishap" and put your name in the credits, or are you just making him take it down?


I'm going to sue the guy for his 'mishap.'  I expect a written, detailed apology, the film taken down, and punitive damages.

If any competitions that I entered the script learn that it was produced, it could mean disqualification.


Phil
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I think suing the guy is fine and sets an example for other "script stealers" out there. However, unless the guy is really rich or profited from his stealing of your script, I'm not sure what you will gain from suing. Sure you can sue someone for 10M, but if the guy is only worth $2 it's going to be hard to collect. (OJ Simpson is an example)

Good luck though Phil, all of us here are with you.


PS. I'm old fashioned and would have simply kicked his f****g teeth out, but that's just me...
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Phil, did you notice he never added "Written by" in the credits? I did not see anything in there as to who wrote it.

That's kind of weird that he would leave that out.

He could argue that since he never gave himself credit that you said he could. Now I know you probably didn't but it's your word against his.


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dogglebe
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Wes, every other director that I've worked with insisted that I sign an agreement.  I can prove that.  And then there's his e-mail to me, saying he wrote it.


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Old Time Wesley
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I was going to mention unless you sign a contract of sorts with the others but yeah. E mail can't be admitted as evidence, can it? E mail can be faked.

I'm pretty sure if he's making short films with material that isn't his that he cannot afford an attorney to fight it.


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Scar Tissue Films
Posted: August 16th, 2007, 2:23pm Report to Moderator
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The audacity of these people is unbelievable.

They know exactly what they are doing, these aren't "mishaps". Anyone who has the first inkling about a film knows that people's work belongs to them, unless you have purchased it outright.

It's shameful on so many levels, not  from just a professional point of view, but from a personal one.

Film is a colloborative medium, why would you want to steal someone elese limelight? Films can be win-win situations for everyone.

I'm really shocked by how much it has happened recently, and the thing is this is most probably just the tip of the iceberg. There must be hundreds of people out there pretending to have written other peoples scripts.

I just hope it is as pointless as it seems. A director stealing a script certainly seems pointless, they can either direct or not. I wouldn't have thought it would make too much difference if they wrote the film or not. I just hope that there aren't people out there who have made a career out of others work.

It's a c***s business at times.

Rick.

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