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mcornetto
Posted: September 1st, 2007, 6:56pm Report to Moderator
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All these drugs you are trying to say are different than medicines were actually considered medicine for some time.  Even heroin was available as medicine.  What is different about them?  People enjoyed using them.

So some puritan, who had the power, said "If people enjoy using them then they can't possibly be good for you."  And therefore they were made illegal.

That is the only difference, my friend.
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I've confused myself.

I guess it's the alcohol, cause I'm such a loser, remember?
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All these drugs you are trying to say are different than medicines were actually considered medicine for some time.  Even heroin was available as medicine.  What is different about them?  People enjoyed using them.

So some puritan, who had the power, said "If people enjoy using them then they can't possibly be good for you."  And therefore they were made illegal.

That is the only difference, my friend.


They are the same on one level, sure. But they are not one and the same.

A bob cat and a normal house cat are the same on one level, but I sure as hell am not going to be the one to pat the bobcat.




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I've confused myself.

I guess it's the alcohol, cause I'm such a loser, remember?


If you lived were I lived you would think the same way I do. I would not be joking to say that half the population in this town are either drunk or high 24/7. They are scum bags and people I have no respect for. Drinkin itself does not make one a loser, it is how much you consume. If you drink a 30 pack a night, then yes you might be a loser.
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Well... I do live in Las Vegas.
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I am sorry, but the shear stupidity of this is astounding. How can you equate detrimental drugs, like cocaine, with a drug like Prozac and Viagra? Do you know how stupid you sound?


In a country, such as ours, where some, many in fact, are plied with prescription drugs from cradle to grave -- everything from Ritalin to Prozac to Viagra. It is hypocritical to be sanctimonious, to act as if Lindsay is somehow less moral than the rest of us. This, ultimately, was my point.

How I can equate such drugs is easy. In the end, they're all taken in an effort to make one feel better. It's as simple as that.

It's not atypical for a parent to wake up, pop a Prozac, ply little Johnny with a Ritalin or two, then drop a Xanax. This same parent, no doubt, will tell little Johnny that Lindsay, being a drug addict, is a low-life, scum-bag.  


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Cocaine is a drug with one purpose, and one purpose only. To dull the senses and make dumb people dumber.


Actually, as Death Monkey mentioned, Cocain, like Prozac or Viagra, has medicinal uses.


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Prozac is a drug that helps people with OCD,depression and Panic disorder. No one takes Prozac to get high or forget there troubles.


Why should they when there are far better drugs available, like, for example, ecstasy. I'm, of course, kidding. I know that many have benefitted from anti-depressants. You, yourself, might, if you'd only give 'em a chance.


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It effects REAL medical conditions.

Viagra is another drug that is not taken to forget how crappy ones life is.
Are there idiots that take it just to stay hard longer? Sure, but it was not meant to be a "party drug" it was meant to give older men there sexual prow-less back.


So if some old man can't get it up, he should be allowed Viagra -- but if a young man, who can get it up, wants to keep it up even longer, he's an idiot? What's the difference, both, ultimately, are taking the drug for enjoyment. Who are you to say how, or whom, should take this drug? What business is it of yours?  


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I have few vices. I like Cigars and Pipe tobacco on occasion. I have been known to go 6 months or more without even touching a cigar. I drink rarely,and have never been drunk.


That's fine. Absolutely irrelevant, but fine.


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I have been depressed since I was 12, and never taken meds for it because of my own personal beliefs. Oh how do I ever make it through the night without being a drug addicted alcoholic?


You're asking the wrong person ... hold on, gotta get another beer.


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Oh yeah, the old fashion way...NORMALY!


There's that sanctimonious, I'm better than her, attitude. Sure, you're not on multible mind-altering, santioned-by-the-state, drugs -- even so, her behaviour, allows you to think of yourself as "better." Good for you!


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Notice the difference between  Lohan and I? I am responsible for my actions and don't blame it on "drugs" Responsibility to the responsible. She has no one to blame but her self.


What a silly, reductionist, argument. There are many studies -- peer reviewed -- that evidence a genetic component with respect to addiction. That said, how and why she is who she is, can't be summed up with a simple "she has no one to blame but herself."  


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Drug and Alcohol abuse are not medical conditions,


If you are as concerned about this issue as your comments suggest, then I encourage you to write the American Medical Association, They, idiots that they are, believe drug and alcohol addiction to be a medical condition. Quick, write that letter, educate them.


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there the products of weak willed individuals and losers. Lohan is a loser. Anyone that does hard drugs or drinks like a siv to "escape" are nothing but losers. She'll be washed up, has been before she even hits 30.


You should be a drug counselor!


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Cocaine ruined one of my aunts life, because she was a loser. She killed herself. I wish Lohan would follow suit.


Your aunt had a medical condition. That said, she wasn't a loser. You though, for believeing her a loser, are a ... Never mind.


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Oh, by the way. Not everyone who comes out against idiots like Lohan are "Christan" who think there perfect. I can tell you there is a whole culture of intelligent people out there who are against  hard drugs and Alcohol abuse and the losers that use and abuse them and are not Christan.


I should not have directed my comments at Christians. Fact is, there are many decent Christians, and many addicts have, by becoming Christians, given up the drugs. What ever works.

Seth


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Diplopia

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If getting wasted on booze makes me a loser, then so be it.


I'll raise my glass to that

Seth


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