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George Willson
Posted: September 11th, 2009, 7:40am Report to Moderator
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I think Inland Empire is about the only Lynch film I haven't seen. I usually hit the end of them and say "huh?" The end of Lost Highway did make me smile, though, as non-sensical as it got in the middle.

Mulholland Drive is just out there, but feels like much of the commentary I've read on it. I often wondered why it was burning along just fine and then shifted gears at the end. Then I read it was supposed to be the pilot for a TV show and when the TV shows wasn't green lit, he had to tack on an ending. Well, it felt tacked on.

Part of me likes Lynch because there is some artistic depth to his films, and sometimes, they're worth seeing again just because you want to figure them out.

But therein lies my biggest problem with them as well. Those of you who know me know I'm a plot guy. The plot must makes perfect sense no matter how many turns it takes throughout the telling. You can take it on a tangent, but that tangent must always come back to a relationship with the larger narrative. His don't often do this.

They'll plod along for a little while, turn left and never look back or even recall what happened before. Sometimes, this works. Most of the time, it doesn't.

I tried to get all Lynch-ish when I wrote a short a couple years ago. I filmed it and put it all together, but it's not very David Lynch. Why? It makes sense. It's not bad, really. It sets up one idea, makes you think one thing is going on, and then reverses you into the truth in the last 30 seconds. Why isn't that Lynch like? If it were Lynch, the last 30 seconds would have nothing to do with the first 3 minutes, and instead of "ah", you'd say "what the hell just happened?"


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Quoted from mcornetto
My favourite Lynch film was Eraserhead and I think he kind of went downhill from there.


Can't say I agree there. I love Blue Velvet and Wild At Heart. Fine films. Weird, but fine pieces of cinema. And uniquely his too. Nobody makes films like Lynch.


Quoted from James McClung
Eraserhead wasn't bad. Some cool parts and lotsa creepy parts. Not much replay value though. Dune also had some cool/creepy parts but had lots of bad acting too. Blue Velvet was my favorite out of the three Lynch films I've seen. Best story and had the most stylistic range. Dennis Hopper was pretty wacky too. Still gotta check out Mulholland Drive. I've heard good things about that one even from Lynch detractors.


He got stuffed by the studio on Dune. Took his name of the credits too, or tried to at least. BV is rather good isn't it?

I really do like Mulholland Drive. Very strange indeed.


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David Lynch is the only director I know who can take a plot or narrative and make it go round in a full circle. Any typical movie is a straight line point A to point B. But in a Lynch film you can feel the story just curve in on itself. It's weird and hard to explain. Inland Empire and Muholland Drive is a good example of this.  It is just mind blowing everytime I see it.


Indeed. A nail hit right on the head there.


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Recently Lynch has been getting a lot of criticism from fans in regards to a director who has gotten to the point where he is stealing ideas from himself. I can sort of see it but there is only one Lynch and will ever be one Lynch.


Another nail sunk.


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My only complaint is that he doesn't pump out enough movies and no studio will throw bundles of cash his way for his projects. Lynch has fully embraced digital filmmaking (which is appernetly cheap and fast to produce-just go ask Rodregiez) and so you'd think he would be playing around in that sandbox with all the enthusiasm of a kid with ADD and releasing more movies.


Yeah, I don't know why he doesn't do more. Then I always said the same about Kubrick. I think they just get bogged down in pre production then never actually get round to shooting it. Even with DV there's still a lot of money involved. And that's probably half the trouble. People don't want to put money into a Lynch film as they can probably more more elsewhere.


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I just wish a studio would throw him 10 million dollars so he can go out with a bang and finally shoot his Johnny Rocket script and play around with todays CGI effects.


That would be great wouldn't it?


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You start a Lynch thread and you have not seen Inland Empire. Shame on you Rendevous. shame!


Oh my. I've seen all the others though. Must buy the bloody thing so I can raise my head in public once more. My, it's got a little hot in here.


Quoted from NC
Surface but no shadow, if you see what I mean.


I dunno about that. I see what you mean though. He's dealing in strange worlds though where the normal rules don't apply. He did also make the Straight Story which was a straight forward road movie, albeit an old man on a lawnmower. He never can do things by the book can he?


Quoted from Dec
It's rare to watch a film and think I've not seen that before and Lynch is one of the very few writers and directors who has any surprises left.


Spot on that sir.


Quoted from GW
Mulholland Drive is just out there, but feels like much of the commentary I've read on it. I often wondered why it was burning along just fine and then shifted gears at the end. Then I read it was supposed to be the pilot for a TV show and when the TV shows wasn't green lit, he had to tack on an ending. Well, it felt tacked on.


I think there is some truth in that. I still love it though.


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I usually hit the end of them and say "huh?" The end of Lost Highway did make me smile, though, as non-sensical as it got in the middle.


LH is a real mind fuck. I usually do get to the end and then say 'huh?' myself. But then I watch them again and they always seem to make a lot more sense than they do the first time.



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Quoted from rendevous

LH is a real mind fuck. I usually do get to the end and then say 'huh?' myself. But then I watch them again and they always seem to make a lot more sense than they do the first time.


Which is why you hit the end of them, initially wonder what went on, think it sucked and then wonder why you want to watch it again to make sure.


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Lost Highway & Mulholland Drive are my favourite.

I don't like Eraserhead.


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Jayrex,

I can understand someone disliking Eraserhead. It's one of the weirdest and creepiest films I've seen. Lynch has a very unique way on adding sinister elements to his work. It's not just the music either. He somehow manages to inject a huge sense of dread into me whenever I watch one of his films. He also makes some funny parts hilarious.

Just can't get enough these days.

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i love david lynch! i had only seen a few of his films, but we're studying him right now in my film aesthetics course and i earn more and more respect for his films the more i analyze them! it helps my professors obsessed with lynch and has some interesting theories on all his movies! he's the only director i know that can make discontinuity work


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Quoted from slabstaa
Lost Highway is awesome.


Indeed Slabby. I loved the scene on the road when Robert Loggia chases the jerk who cut him up. Class.

Kev

There's a lot going on in Lynch movies. I love the way he just throws a scene in almost out of the blue with new characters mid conversation. Mulholland Drive comes to mind when a man is telling another man about this dream he's had twice that has his companion in it. The dream takes place in the very cafe in which they are now sitting.

The man tells a vivid tale of a horrific face appearing from behind a wall, a face he wishes never to see outside of a dream.

His companion then gets up and stands exactly where he did in the man's dream. The two men venture outside to the wall in the man's dream.

If you want to know the rest watch Mulholland Falls, Lynch tells it much better than I do.

Fine film from a fine director.

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This was a pleasant surprise.

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Lynch is among the top ten list of my all time favorite directors. What makes him greater than many others is the cinematography that he has able to achieve with the dreamy sequences.
Twin peaks is one magnum opus . I have been following his stuff and loved every bit of it leaving what he did in inland empire.

I loved his shorts. I think Mullholand drive is one great movie with all the creepy music by agelio badalamanti .
I simply love his style and the way he shows it in his movies.
I just loved the shot of a gangster drinking coffee and spitting it on the handkerchief this is how you make a strong antagonist. And frank booth of blue velvet was another hardcore masochistic antagonist. another scene i recall from the twin peaks was a dancing dwarf in a red background ... loved it ...




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I've not seen one film by David Lynch that I didn't enjoy (I'm not saying I understood them all, but it's all good when something sticks in your mind for so long after viewing).

Eraserhead still remains as one of the most disturbing films I've ever seen. Can't put my finger on why exactly- I think it's everything, the feel, the tone, THAT soundtrack, but mostly the bloody lady in the radiator. I lost nights of sleep when I first saw this as a teenager.


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Brilliant vid Michel, happy new year fella.

Right, I'm off to the airport. Have a good one folks. Back on soon.

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I've only seen Mulholland Drive, and it was AMAZING. I'm in the process of trying to find his other films, and be watched, and amazed.

Don't really have much else to say about Lynch, but just that if you haven't seen his films, CHECK ONE OUT. It's very original, and it will mess with your head, in a good way.

Thanks for the article RV.


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