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leitskev
Posted: August 14th, 2012, 9:22pm Report to Moderator
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Nor me. I would advise anyone to be very familiar with STC terms and be prepared to describe your script with them.

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I just stumbled on that Snyder letter today researching something else, and thought Jeff would be amused.
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I've already answered this very same question, so hopefully it's not aimed at me.


No, it was not aimed at you or anyone else for that matter.

And I did not see you comment about it earlier either.  

My comment was more like "are you willing to do what agents/prod-cos ask for in order to get read, or not, even if it means a STC type beat sheet". That was all.


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My earlier answer was that I' do nothing if asked this.  I'd go 1 step further and say that anyone who's looking for any type of BS STC beatoff sheet would not be looking at or for anything I've written or will write.

Simple as that.
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Ok, so if a company is looking for something that fits one of your scripts exactly, but they ask for a beat sheet  before you send your script, you'd tell them "no"?


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Yeah.  I'd tell them I don't have one and don't believe in them.  I'd tell them to read the damn script and give me a nice big fat signing bonus for the opportunity of the read.



Then, I'd probably go visit Balt in whatever hospital he's in and pay him $45 to draw one up for me.
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Should you ever choose to try one yourself, Jeff...

http://www.blakesnyder.com/2012/02/17/the-moneyball-beat-sheet/

It's easy enough.
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When it comes to STC, I keep it in mind for one simple reason...

I know colleagues here in town value that book.
These colleagues are gatekeepers to an industry I want to be more involved with.
So, it behooves me to be familiar with the Snyder stuff. Why?
Because if they use it as a value system, I can use it to demonstrate I have value.

To me, STC is just another tool I can use to make contacts here in town.
If I can use parts of that book to illustrate my script, it helps me make pals.
Because they can see I UNDERSTAND enough about what THEY value.

Other than that, I could care less about the book.

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Would be interesting to see if Jeff's Unforgettable would fit into a STC breakdown.  I wonder that about some of my own scripts as well.


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To the original question -- although I haven't had any time to review on the boards lately.

I try to treat a script much the same way as I do a film when we watch it in the house.  I live with lotsa other film people -- an editor, an actor, a composer, and some general enthusiasts -- so when we watch a film, there's pretty constant discussion all the way through, and after it's done, a big argument.

That's the basic way I look at my reviews.  I read with a blank document open, and I make "As I go" notes of anything that I'd comment on during the running time in a finished film.  For scripts, this also extends to particularly awkward sentences in description and so on, as in film it might to a bad cut or whatever.  Every comment I make is a moment when something distracted me from the story, a little bit; moments that I think need to be smoothed over (or intentionally distracting).  The reason I do this is because I think it's difficult, if not impossible, to explain our first experience of a scene unless we do it right then.  I like to mention things like what twist I think is coming, whether I like a character or not at a given point, and so on; things that might speak to what a viewer's experience would be during the process of watching a film.

Then, after I'm done, I go do something else for a bit, then come back.  Then I just blab about everything I can think of.



As for Save the Cat, I think Brett's point is logical; some people with power or contacts put real value in it, so one might as well have an understanding of it.  Similarly, I don't really give a damn about different acting methods as long as actors are doing good work; however, I may as well have an understanding of their methods and be able to communicate with them in those terms.  

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Quoted from Grandma Bear
Would be interesting to see if Jeff's Unforgettable would fit into a STC breakdown.  I wonder that about some of my own scripts as well.



That would be very interesting...
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Most films do even if the writer didn't intend for it to do so.

I kind of wish Screenplay Readers would offer a beat sheet with their coverage.  


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