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Dude. Take a look at the rest of the world and its provision of health care for its citizens. Your argument, with all respect, is completely illogical. Don't mean to be rude, but if you're really asking those questions about hours seriously, you need to research this thing more. You're coming at this from a blinkered view. One of Dick Morris' and Karl Rove's "independents".
I'm sure plenty of Presidents down the line will tweak and improve Obamacare, but it's here to stay and millions of uninsured Americans woth pre-exisiting conditions can breathe a huge sigh of relief.
But this is not a night for debate - it's a night to celebrate, and for America to heal.
Well, like I said, you live in England. I have a very good reason to have absolutely no faith in the people who inhabit this country. You don't think it'll happen? That's fine with me. I guarantee it'll happen. And, don't worry, you're not rude in your retorts. We just have a serious disagreement. =)
I've come to terms that it was going to stay. Even if Romney got in, there was no way he was ever going to get it past the Senate. They'll get their sigh of relief and be broke (eventually) with a big smile on their face.
Yeah... no. Because we haven't done any healing since September 12th, 2001. That was the last day our country actually healed from anything. We had this great sense of national pride and a common goal. Every day since then has just been deteriorating again. Today is no exception.
P.S. Thinking back on it, I hate the expression, "Breathe a sigh of relief". You can't breathe and sigh at the same time. Just random thoughts from me. Pay no mind.
It's not the President's job to create jobs. It's his job to put policies in place to allow job creators to do their jobs.
To incentivize the apathetic; those with the means who would otherwise hole up until "someone else" would test the waters for them at risk of peril so that they may walk to the top upon the corpses of those foolish enough to try first.
I've personally asked two economics professors what economic model replaces a growth based economy. Both provided evasive answers. In the next four decades I fear I shall find the answer before they do.
Florida is working feverishly to try and finagle a state win for Romney. Won't change anything, but those wingnuts down there just won't let go. Multiple states were called for either candidate with a smaller margin and fewer returns.
I have not been totally happy with Obama, but I keep telling people the grass isn't always greener over there. Be careful what you wish (vote) for.
I'm happy with the outcome, although I really like Rocky Anderson. Not on the ballot in Ohio.
What I learned this election cycle: 1) the polls were accurate. So time to stop the claims of polling bias. That dog don't hunt anymore. 2) negative campaigning works. Obama ran the most negative campaign in the television era, and he started early, while Romney was still in the primary. And it was especially effective because of the allied media. They completely invented this war on women out of thin air: where was this war last election? What new developments have there been where suddenly there is supposed to be a war? It was something crafted in DNC headquarters, an effective strategy. 3) we(GOP) need the Hispanic vote. Bush got enough of it to get by because he speaks Spanish. Hispanics are conservative. But we don't get that vote because of immigration and perceptions of racism. Long term, the Hispanics are the key to our success. It's a marriage that has to happen, and the sooner we realize it the better. 4) evangelicos are killing us(Republicans) in the primaries. I have nothing against them, I respect their earnest beliefs and admire their strengths. But they need to start focusing on what's most important to them. Do they want a monstrous and intrusive federal government? If not, they need to ease up on certain issues that should not be part of the national debate because they just distract from the real issue: freedom.
other notes since there are some who tend to confuse the meaning:
1) this election was not an endorsement of Obama or his policies. No one should be confused on that. People didn't like Romney. He's a hard guy to like. People personally like the President. The fact that the election is close is evidence how much they are against his policies and the job he's done. To expect some kind of revolutionary era to follow is childishly naive.
2) the damage Obama will inflict on the country is not the kind of thing that will be easily measured year to year. It's only when we are able to look back over the long prism of history that it will become apparent. Things will not be destroyed, they will be diminished. There will be growth, but it will always be less. There will not be Depression type unemployment, but it will be much harder to find a job, and they will pay less. Small businesses will carry on, but there will be fewer and fewer. Opportunity will still exist, but it will fade and fade and fade.
These things will not happen overnight. They will happen slowly, so slow that it will be easy for the media and the progressives to convince many of us that something else caused it.
We will be more and more dependent on the government. Not just to take care of us when we're old or sick, or to educate our kids. But for our very survival. Bureaucrats will hold enormous power over all aspects of our lives, like a holy priesthood. If you want to pursue a dream, start a business, even just get a job, you'll have to pay homage to the bureaucrat. And his party.
Freedom suffered a terrible blow last night. It's not the first. These blows have been wearing away at the body since the New Deal and even before that. The country will survive, and freedom is not extinguished, But it is diminished. Very diminished.
Ray, you are a research dynamo! Is there only one Ray? Or did you clone yourself?
I hit some of the links, but do not have sufficient time to read through those in depth articles.
Keep in mind some things though. UN predictions have a strong built in bias(we know what kind) and have been almost comically inaccurate.
Let's look at energy, and sorry, no time to google for links. The United States is suddenly on the cusp of energy independence. Was there some magical discovery? Nope. It's the cumulative effect of new technologies that have been in development for decades(tax breaks for oil companies anyone?). Fracking is the big one, of course, with natural gas.
And one of the results has been a significant reduction in carbon emissions in this country,
Did the UN anticipate any of this? Even though it's been in development for decades?
Planning for the future is notoriously tricky. In the 70s there were all kinds of experts that said we'd be running out of key resources and food by the 1990s, and there would be widespread famine. None of that happened. And those same people and their disciples are largely the ones doing UN studies. And, BTW, running the current administration's science and energy policies.
They've been dramatically wong on everything so far. Maybe some day they'll be correct, but smart money looks somewhere else for predictive analysis.
I'm very much interested in your thoughts on growth. I agree, if I am understanding you correctly, that capitalism is in trouble as an economic and political system, when growth stops. It's survival is conditioned on continuous growth. What happens if there is no growth, or seriously reduced growth?
But I think those questions are more hypothetical than something that should be applied to policy. Don't you? The alternatives are proven to be dire.
The system is not perfect, but it's so far and above any other system attempted or conceived that it's dangerous to consider messing too much with it. There is not only the law of unintended consequences to take into account, but the known consequences of submitting to some type of authoritarian system.
Predictions for what things will look like 4 years from now:
1) growth will have remained around 2 to 3% on average. Probably no recession. Just anemic growth, closer to 2%. 2) unemployment will fall to 6.5%, maybe 7%, but that's it. And these will be less paying jobs, many part time. 3) several blue states, who have spent themselves into oblivion with reckless pension promises, will turn to the federal government for relief. They'll get some, too, but in a way that will damage the country long term, but not be noticeable short term. In other words, they will consider selling off the country's future by passing things to the next generation. 4) inflation will become a serious concern for the first time since Reagan fixed it. So with anemic growth, poor paying jobs, limited opportunity, relatively high unemployment, and inflation, this will look and feel like the 1970s. 5) foreign policy: ironically, Romney, who knows little about foreign affairs, will turn out to have been right. Russia will be a growing problem. The Russians are suddenly flush with energy cash, and are feeling their oats around the world. They're looking to spread their influence and establish their manhood. 6) Germany will form its own block of northern European states. They can't keep carrying the lazy socialist countries that don't want to work, that don't produce anything or even contribute much to world culture. Germany suffered short term heavy loss when they absorbed East Germany, but in the long run came out stronger. They will do the same thing in leaving the EU. 7) Obamacare will not go away. But as with Europe it will result in serious doctor shortages and similar problems in service. The government will take stronger action to force doctors to play by their rules, which will only make the problem worse. Americans might not accept what Europeans and Canadians have gotten used to. nothing will be fixed or improved in education. Union run schools will continue to run down our schools and dumb down future generations. People will still be talking about it next election. Schools will get yet more money, but nothing will improve. 9) Michelle will leave the President. And it will crush him. I think he's a family man and a decent guy generally, and I don't think she loves him. She wants someone a little more alpha maybe? Or maybe someone she can dominate? I don't know. Something doesn't look right. So you heard it here first!
From an outside perspective the Republicans have a major problem.
They seem like a backwoods Party...like the last two centuries have gone by without them.
The crazy religious claims are like something you'd expect to hear from the Middle East, but the problem is deeper than that...they seem "anti-modern" for want of a better word.
You generally expect a right wing party to be technologically advanced and thinking about modernisation and what have you, whereas the Republicans seem like they are positively medieval...interested in rural communities whilst ignoring cities and that kind of thing.
Just feel they really need to update their image and their policies.
When the capitalistic economy is strong it's good to be a conservative republican. When the capitalistic economy is weak it's good to be a liberal democrat.
To treat a healthy person as a sick person is expensive and absurd. To treat a trauma patient as a healthy person is likewise absurd. Some things you can't just "walk it off."