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oJOHNNYoNUTSo
Posted: August 11th, 2013, 7:01pm Report to Moderator
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Well hello there fellow Heisenburgs!

I'm going to start a new thread for discussing/analyzing the final 8 episodes of "Breaking Bad" so we don't ruin anything for those who haven't witnessed its blood-soaked hammer.

For those who haven't seen it, beware of spoilers...

And for gosh sakes, go out and watch it already, lol!
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What's Breaking Bad?


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What's Breaking Bad?


It's the unofficial side sequel of "Little Miss Sunshine".


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Phil,

It's a series.

It’s the microcosm snapshot of so many things wrong in our society.

I (personally) avoid any and all shows like this as though my viewing them helps their cause.

Before anyone says it, I know viewing it does (commercials…ect…) I meant it on a moral level.

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I was kidding, Shawn.  I'm very familiar with it and am watching it now.  I agree with what you say about it shows what's wrong with society.


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Oh boy, I'm going to be talking to myself here.

Anyway, not too much of the unexpected here, just giving the audience what they want to see: the showdown between Walt and Hank.

What I continue to love about this, is how the awareness of the writers is spot on.  When Walt brought back the bags of money, it was like Jessie threw something out of the window, and it keeps returning to him.  Good heads up by Jessie putting two and two together that Mike is not with us anymore.

The best part about this episode, was the comparisons to Walt and Fring.  From him blowing off Lydia at the car wash, to even putting a towel down while vomiting.

The final moments were tense, and I can't wait to see what happens next.  Tread lightly...  
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Episode 9 is a success. Not as good as Episode 1 last year but that was coming off a whole myriad of events whereas this one comes off basically one colossal event. Said event makes full impact in the final five minutes though. What an ending!


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The best part about this episode, was the comparisons to Walt and Fring.  From him blowing off Lydia at the car wash, to even putting a towel down while vomiting.


Good call, man. I noticed the towel. That's just something you can't miss. I didn't think about Lydia at the car wash as being referential to Gus but indeed, he and Walt had many a similar exchange at Pollos Hermanos, naturally.


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The final moments were tense, and I can't wait to see what happens next.  Tread lightly...  


When that garage door came down... no words.

"Tread lightly" - Another BB classic. And those words carry a lot of weight as far as the rest of the series is concerned. It's going to be a bumpy ride from here on out.


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I almost got a sense from the final scene, that Walt could go back to his empire to prove to Hank that there is nothing he can do to stop him.  Either way, it was classic.
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yeah I get a sense of where its going.... hes a man who started this whole thing to leave money for his family after his death. except his fatal flow...ego and powerhunger... will ruin it all...

Walter White will lose everything... his family, his money, his life...

but Heisenberg will live on.

which in the end...means absolutely nothing.
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That Episode was pretty bad ass, I'm surprised the Walt vs Hank started on the first episode. I'm cheering for Walter eventhough I know he will have to lose in the end, He is just so awesome! Long live the KING!


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Noticed the comparisons to Gus right off the bat. WW has a habit of adopting traits from the people he's killed. This is obviously no different.

Wondering why the word "Heisenberg" was spraypainted on the walls on his house. Was it the work of a vandal? Has Heisenberg become some sort of cultural icon?

Obviously the scene in the garage was a show stealer. Loved how the writers addressed the fans' expectations of Walt handing over his family and Hank banishing Walt. It's pretty obviously that that's not going to happen.

Sad to see the cancer return. We all knew it was back, but still semi-heart breaking.

A few things to think about...

The vacuum cleaning guy who can give people an entirely new identity. Pretty sure Walt contacts him given his flash forward.

Todd and Jesse. Have a feeling Jesse's going to avenge the kid's death somehow.

Lydia. She's still hanging around for a reason. She's a wild card and very unpredictable.

Gomez. He has a goatee. Everyone with a goatee thus far has been a villain.


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Watched this three times last night. I have to say at this point, I'm not rooting for anyone. I only hope that Jesse and Walt's family can make it out of this in some semblance of "okay" though that's highly unlikely at this point, especially with Jesse throwing cash all over.

I think really Hank is the one who deserves to win. Walt's really fucked him over at this point and even after dropping out of the meth business, he's still trying to deceive people even when they've got him figured out (both Hank and Jesse when he figures out about Mike). "Tread lightly." What a thing to say to someone who's family and has always had your back when your cards are completely on the table.

I think the only "happy" ending feasible at this point is that Walt goes to prison and the rest of the characters can get on with their lives. Walt's entire goal throughout the series has been to do something big and be validated for it and better believe if his actions are outed to the world, he'd get what he wants. Not so much validation as notoriety but I don't think he'd make the distinction.

Secondly, I think the big showdown hinted at for the ending is related to Lydia somehow. She's the final tie in the series to the criminal underworld and Walt's M60 is designed to kill a lot of people. Hardly something you'd take to a Mexican standoff.


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I think it's safe to say that Walt won't be going to prison. Then again, the flash forward is approximately 6 months ahead of the current timeline, so either he's knocking on death's door or he beat the cancer entirely.

Something else I forgot to mention (which you reminded me of James), Walt knows Hank's tricks. Since he helped Hank spy on Gus, he knows Hank's thinking and plan of action. So he really has the one up on Hank. Furthermore, drug money paid for his rehab (although you could argue it also put him in the hospital). At the same time, Hank is going to look like the world's biggest dumbass if he reveals that Heisenberg was his brother in law. So I'm curious about Hank's plan of action.


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I think it's safe to say that Walt won't be going to prison. Then again, the flash forward is approximately 6 months ahead of the current timeline, so either he's knocking on death's door or he beat the cancer entirely.

Something else I forgot to mention (which you reminded me of James), Walt knows Hank's tricks. Since he helped Hank spy on Gus, he knows Hank's thinking and plan of action. So he really has the one up on Hank. Furthermore, drug money paid for his rehab (although you could argue it also put him in the hospital). At the same time, Hank is going to look like the world's biggest dumbass if he reveals that Heisenberg was his brother in law. So I'm curious about Hank's plan of action.


All good points. But what's the point of Hank finding out at all if he isn't going to do anything about it? Not to mention Hank couldn't possibly let this go. Walt played him like a fiddle and almost got him killed (by both sides). You could argue Hank's involvement in the cartel's attempt on Hank's life, I suppose, but Gus had to act because Walt brought a lot of heat on his operation on account of a DEA agent being his brother-in-law.

Naturally though, Walt won't be going to prison in the time elapsed between now and the flash-forward unless Gilligan and co. didn't to insert a mini-Prison Break homage in the middle of the season, which, of course, would be completely stupid and impossible. I'm not even saying I think Walt will go to prison. That's just what I think would be the "happy" ending for everyone (or as close as they can get to one).

But that final episode, man... who knows what'll happen. Could be anything.


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there's no happy ending here for anyone. I believe Walt's family will violently pay for what he's done.

in the end I think Walt gets Vic Mackey'd!

This is a case of Walt getting too big for his britches. I believe Lydia and her European friends will do the biggest number on Walt... not the DEA.

I have no ides where the story with Jesse is going...other than yes.. it had to do with the kid. .



  
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