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Episode 10, "Buried" was a solid setup that brought Marie into the storm.  The scene with Marie and Skyler fighting over the baby was pretty intense.

The standout for me was Walt in the desert burying his treasure.  I found the music selection hypnotizing and humorous at the same time.  Pretty clever putting the coordinates on a lottery ticket...what if he won? LOL!
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Crushed. One of the darkest episodes yet. Without a doubt, we are in the downfall segment of the classic crime drama template with certain scenes reminding me of Goodfellas in the third act. Walt and co. are on a veritable raft of shit at this point and it's showing no signs of slowing.

My favorite scene was with Lydia and Declan. From the very start, it had that distinct suffocating air that someone is going to get offed very soon. The payoff is executed in a somewhat unconventional fashion but it's done so well, I'm glad they didn't show us what happened in full. The scene with the baby was also very intense indeed.

Really, no filler this time around. One of the best yet.


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I feel bad for Hank and Marie. Just watch.

They will fall harder than anyone.
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Starting to wonder if Todd might be the character that Walt really has to look out for.  The kid's an opportunist and a cold-blooded killer.  And now that he's allied with Lydia, he's truly dangerous.  But if Walt has to die, I'm hoping Jesse is the one to do it.
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I have a rising suspicion that Walt's M60 will be reserved for Todd's biker gang relatives.

Lydia + Todd = disaster. This will be the downfall of it all. In fact, I wouldnt be suprised if the two killed Marie and Hank.

Another solid episode. Addressed a lot of concerns/predictions (like could Walt kill Hank).


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im still getting used to Landry Clarke as a cold blooded killer.
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im still getting used to Landry Clarke as a cold blooded killer.


That's the thing that's so weird, his presence is so deceptively innocent.  We know he's not dumb, but is he?  His character is like a bad soup with expensive ingredients.  His cook is just alright, about 70%?  That's fucking horrible!!!  Who is this guy?!?
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It was one of those episodes...

I love how it all starts, fitting for "Confessions", Todd telling ol' sea stories to his crew about Walt and the heist.  Also, Uncle Jack used the term "head" instead of toilet, which implies he has a military background.

Walt planting the seed in Jr. about the cancer was classic Walt.  I think the biggest con the writers are pulling is to lead us to believe Walt's cancer is actually back.

When Walter said down in front of the camera, at first I thought he said, "This is mine to finsh." but I hit rewind and he said, "This is my confession."  Wow! Walt has stooped to a new low!  That video is downright crazy!

That's a wrap Walt! Jessie found the cat in the bag...

...and the bag's going in the river.
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Wow... this show is out of control.
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Can someone please explain the timeline of Jesse and the ricin? I know he lost it. But does he know that Walt has the ricin? And how did he think he got it back? If memory serves me correct, Walt told Jesse he found the ricin in his roomba and took it back.

I hope they explain this a bit more since it seems like a bit of a leap.

Besides that, a solid 10. Just fanastic. Walt's video was the highlight.

Also, it just occured to me that if the house goes down, Walt's lottery ticket is lost forever...


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Can someone please explain the timeline of Jesse and the ricin? I know he lost it. But does he know that Walt has the ricin? And how did he think he got it back? If memory serves me correct, Walt told Jesse he found the ricin in his roomba and took it back.

I hope they explain this a bit more since it seems like a bit of a leap.

Besides that, a solid 10. Just fanastic. Walt's video was the highlight.

Also, it just occured to me that if the house goes down, Walt's lottery ticket is lost forever...


Toward the end of season 4, Jessie is patted down by Huell before entering Saul's office.  It's implied that this is the moment where the ricin cigarette was lifted from Jessie.

Jessie always knew Walt poisoned Brock, but Walt convinced him he would never do such a thing.  Walt has been on Jessie's bullshit radar for awhile now, so it doesn't shock me that Jessie was able to put two and two together to know Walt is the blame.  I would like to think that a flashback of Walt poisoning Brock will be coming up soon.

This episode has really got me wondering about how it will be disclosed to Jessie about the death of Jane.

Just speculating here, but I strongly believe that Walt, his ego runneth over, will tell Jessie something like this:

(Walt dominates, Jessie weeps -- defeated)

You betrayed me, for what?  I didn't poison Brock, I saved you -- us.  Don't you know who I am?  Do you think Jane's death was an accident?  Clearly, you don't know who I am Jessie.  I'm Heiensburg, and I choose who lives and who dies!

LOL!  Just saying...  



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Well, we know the house doesn't burn down, because we see it abandoned in the flash-forward.   Regarding Jesse's epiphany, yeah, I was struck by his Sherlock Holmes-level deductive reasoning when he stared at that pack of cigs.  He was able to suddenly realize that Huell lifted the ricin-containing pack from his jacket, just like he did with the bag of weed.  But, he knows there was no Ricin found in Brock's system, so I was confused why he thought Walt poisoned him.  I suppose Jesse had enough doubts about Walt at that point to have all these puzzle pieces suddenly fit together for him.

I found this timeline at IMDB which does a pretty thorough job of laying it out:

1)In "End Times," to get Jesse back on his side in the war against Gus, Walt arranges for Huell to steal the cigarette pack with the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's pocket and replace it with a different pack. Saul calls Jesse to his office on shaky reasons, and Huell pats him down in a way that gets Jesse's attention. Walt doesn't use the ricin to poison Brock, but rather a lily of the valley plant that will have a similar but less dangerous effect on the boy.

2)When Jesse hears that Brock has been poisoned, he realizes that the ricin cigarette is missing, then (correctly) puts two and two together that Huell stole it, on Walt's orders. He storms into Walt's house and threatens to kill him for poisoning Brock; Walt convinces Jesse that it was Gus, not him, who wanted to hurt the boy — specifically so Jesse would come to this conclusion and murder Walt for him — and that Tyrus must have lifted the cigarettes from Jesse's locker at the Super Lab. Jesse accepts that Mr. White would never hurt a child, whereas Gus has a history of hurting children, and lets go of the theory about Huell.

3)Doctors later figure out that Brock was poisoned by a lily of the valley, not ricin, making Jesse doubt Walt's theory about Gus manipulating Jesse into shooting Walt, and leaving him to wonder what really happened to the ricin cigarette. Walt stages a phony search of Jesse's house and plants a fake cigarette (containing salt, not ricin) inside Jesse's Roomba. None of this sits well with Jesse, but he once again believes Mr. White.

4)Over the course of season 5, starting around the murder of Drew Sharp, Jesse has begun to realize that he shouldn't believe anything Walt says. Walt claims to be broken up over Drew's death, then whistles while he works. Walt claims that Mike left town alive, when Jesse knows that Walt would've never taken out Mike's guys unless Mike was dead. Walt gives Jesse a whole song and dance about how leaving town will be good for Jesse, when Jesse knows that it will be even better for Walt.

5)Having been primed to disbelieve any word out of Walt's mouth, Jesse goes to Saul's office, lights up a joint and gets scolded by Saul, who knows his relocation expert won't pick up anyone who's high. Saul orders Huell to again pick Jesse's pocket to get rid of the marijuana.

6)At the pick-up spot, a nervous Jesse reaches for his pot, and can't find it. He frantically checks all his pockets, but all he finds is a cigarette pack. Staring at the cigarette pack, and realizing Huell dipped into his pocket without him noticing, Jesse realizes that his first suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct, and that Mr. White was manipulating him into turning against Gus, endangering Brock's life in the process.
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yeah i realize the house wasn't completely burned down in the flashforward, but even a small house fire could destroy the ticket. i doubt this would happen however.

and thanks for the recap guys. super helpful. so much s hit has went down the past three seasons, that it's easy to forget where everyone's at.

also vince has said that it was saul who put the lilly of the valley into brock's juicebox. i'm hoping they actually show this next episode.


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Some interesting discussions going on. There were a few more similar leaps of conclusion through this whole season I felt. The ending was tense, but it kind of takes away from everything when you know he doesn't burn down the house. Maybe Walt Jr. is still there, and Jessie tells him everything - or maybe not, I don't know.

I like the suggestion about Walt buying the guns to kill Todd and Lydia's 'gang', that probably makes the most sense.

Anyway, here's the ending spoiled for anybody that wants to know what happens. Tread lightly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNZI_QgKkzY
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So Skyler's in it to win it...and Santa almost put her on his naughty list.

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Not much to say about this episode.  I loved Hanks reaction when Jessie says Walt is smarter and luckier than them.  I wonder what Jessie has in mind...

I thought the guy at the park was kinda lame.  Whatever, Uncle Jack is back.
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