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NickSedario
Posted: October 22nd, 2013, 6:24am Report to Moderator
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Aren't we all pretty much a bunch of "approval junkies" seeking praise and honor for our latest masterpiece?  

If nobody ever commented on one of your scripts ever again would you still write and submit screenplays here?   I for one, find approval to be much like a drug.  Once I get a taste I want more.     It's hard to go on with out it.

Might be a crazy question but I was just curious if anybody else feels his way.   Dig deep and be honest.

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Sure, it's nice to get positive feedback, but I don't personally go in for 'approval seeking'.

If I submit something for feedback, I want to know what's wrong, or what's not working with a script - then I can go and fix it.

Everyone is different . . .
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Quoted from Eoin
If I submit something for feedback, I want to know what's wrong, or what's not working with a script - then I can go and fix it.

+1

Same. I'm pretty nuts-and-bolts cold blooded about it at this point.



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NickSedario
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^^^I haven't seen a "new" script from either one of you on the boards for quite awhile.  Is that because you've been busy or because your past scripts haven't been too well received?

Not trying to open a can of worms, just curious.
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^^^I haven't seen a "new" script from either one of you on the boards for quite awhile.  Is that because you've been busy or because your past scripts haven't been too well received?

Not trying to open a can of worms, just curious.


Busy - I haven't written much this year. I have had plenty of both helpful and straight to the point feedback. I have learned a long time ago to separate me from my work.

Once a current run of play is over, I intend to get back to working on my feature.

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Busy - I haven't written much this year. I have had plenty of both helpful and straight to the point feedback. I have learned a long time ago to separate me from my work.

Once a current run of play is over, I intend to get back to working on my feature.



I see by your avatar you must've gotten hitched recently.  Congratulations if that's the case.  

If you're referring to your script about the guy who invented penicillian I wish you the best with that.  It's a tall order and tough subject to tackle.  Should be interesting.
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I see by your avatar you must've gotten hitched recently.  Congratulations if that's the case.  

If you're referring to your script about the guy who invented penicillian I wish you the best with that.  It's a tall order and tough subject to tackle.  Should be interesting.


I did indeed, September 13th, many thanks.


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I've been heavily invested at another forum learning how to actually make the films I began learning how to write here at SS.



Pie-in-the-sky writing and writing for your own money to be spent are worlds apart.
Furthermore, spending money just making the film is the easy part. Getting compensated distribution, not just DIY VOD, is really tough. And since your no budget feature has no marketable stars in it you'd better learn how to do your own marketing and promotion, AKA P&A: promotion and advertising, which can easily be equal to the production budget.



Filmmaking IS NOT a meritocracy.

I pretty much just cruise through SS these days a few times across the year and for the OCT OWC.

My goal is to develop a legitimate production pipeline from concept/funding/production/promotion/distribution then come back here to sponsor a genuine OWC contest (not challenge) for paid compensation leading to production and distribution.

These things get expensive. Fast.
The overwhelming majority of filmmakers don't get any return on their investment, especially for shorts.
Features - ain't much better, but at least have a crack at it.

Read articles under row 66 "General Observations & Remarks", columns V & W, and columns AC & AD.
https://docs.google.com/spread.....;usp=drive_web#gid=0

Read articles under row 86 "General Observations & Remarks", columns Q & R, and columns X & Y.
https://docs.google.com/spread.....;usp=drive_web#gid=0

79% & 70% writer/director films.
Those are examples of specifically WHY I'm learning to make my own film.
If you're just getting into the biz and you want to actually get your writing made into a film you're most likely to get that done yourself rather than peddling your written wares to producers with gear but no ideas of their own.

https://docs.google.com/spread.....mp;usp=sharing#gid=0

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General observations:
Yeah, this pretty much confirms that you're pretty much 100% responsible for marketing & promoting your own film.
Just because a distributor agrees to distribute your film doesn't really mean your product is going to figuratively "fly off the shelves" and the Benjis start rolling in. Pfft. No. That ain't happening.
With this kind of distribution you're essentially a vendor buying a booth at a flea market, like everyone else. 
Yeah, you'd better have something interesting enough for casual/incidental passersby to notice and buy - or - let a greater number of people know that you're even AT the flea market in a booth & hope they don't get distracted on the way there.
Again, budget does not equal views/votes/merit/appreciation. 
Big budget films suck just as much as lo/no budget films. 
And the inverse, lo/no budget films can be just as appreciated as big budget films.




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NickSedario
Posted: October 22nd, 2013, 9:33am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from RayW
My goal is to develop a legitimate production pipeline from concept/funding/production/promotion/distribution then come back here to sponsor a genuine OWC contest (not challenge) for paid compensation leading to production and distribution.


Sounds good.

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