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Posted: June 19th, 2014, 6:11pm Report to Moderator
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Costa Rica - here we come! Go England!
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Got to laugh to be honest. England are so predictable. Perform well (”brave”) against better opposition and inevitably lose. Go on to perform terrible against so-called weaker opposition and inevitably lose.

I'm not a betting man but I probably could have made a small fortune from England's adventures in tournament football. I don't understand why the bookies make us favorites for any game that actually means something. Qualifiers aside, which are practically impossible to fail at, although England even try their best at that, when England meet opposition in a meaningful game we are just painfully second best.  

As a Liverpool fan more than an England fan, I did find a silver lining in Luis Suarez's happiness.  

More than probable, Italy beat Uruguay and Costa Rica. England given hope but mess it up against Costa Rica by drawing.

England aside, so far it's been the best world cup I've seen in many a year.



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Uruguay played with more routine and also harder. I don't like a lot about Uruguay's football this year. It was pure individuality "in their offence".

England was the better team tonight. Not much better, but they had moves and a way to create chances as a team. They played likeable, feisty, and refreshing.

Hodgson and Neville built up and handled their team well. Nevertheless I fear it will be over for the managers after the tournament.

All the small things turned out unhappy. Next time the young players will have more routine.  The central defence was the biggest problem in my opinion. I don't want to blame the goalkeeper because the distance of the second goal was quite short; just didn't understand he dives for a ball which hadn't even been shot. He opened up the goal that way. He already stood in the right position.

Suarez is a phenomenon. How he runs into the offside hoping for a mistake and then...

Perhaps Italy helps England this time. Maybe they roll double and write another happy ending in the football history. I hope England stays in the tournament. They deserve to. It's still possible.



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Not to drift too far from the subject but I need to know how reducing foreign players would enhance England's chances.

I keep hearing on TV that we need more English players in the premier league. How that will benefit the national team. My argument is they are not good enough to play in the premier league. So we have to devalue the premier league in hope? Put in a load of English players just because they are English? Ha, good luck with that -- we'll go back to 1990's football aka clubs failing in the early rounds of european competitions.

Sometimes I wonder if the FA and the English media put Italia '90 and Euro '96 as an unreachable benchmark. We just about squeezed our way through to the semis in both competitions back then.



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Quoted from Scoob

I keep hearing on TV that we need more English players in the premier league. How that will benefit the national team. My argument is they are not good enough to play in the premier league.


Another nation not good enough?

Watch out buddy. That kinda talk will get this thread locked up for sure!

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Hi Shawn,

I was actually defending the influx of foreign players into the English league. We should learn from them, not deride them.

I fully support foreign players coming into England and playing. I believe they can educate our players. It has made the people behind the premier league very rich and happy. It's made the premier league the most watched sport in the world. It's made football fun and exciting, a family sport.

What we see on TV, is a lot of pundits calling for more English players in the top division, calling out for managers of top clubs to sign English players and they believe if we just simply overload the division with English people, it will make the England's managers job easier.  Yep, it's as silly as that.

Quality outshines quantity. Class can breed class.  I don't think the English FA can grasp that concept.  They prefer the "English way" of "we know best." Thus, England will never progress.

In a nutshell: If you deleted every foreign player from the premier league, it would be no different to Holland or even Scotland. It would return to the state it was in the mid 90's -- a league no one would want to watch.




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everyone is like World Cup this, and Futbol that....

and I'm like it's FOOTBALL and it doesn't start until September
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Uruguay are diving bastards and won the game with one man.

I think that sums up the match.
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Quoted from Scoob
Hi Shawn,

I was actually defending the influx of foreign players into the English league. We should learn from them, not deride them.

I fully support foreign players coming into England and playing. I believe they can educate our players. It has made the people behind the premier league very rich and happy. It's made the premier league the most watched sport in the world.


I haven't watch football with a passion since 2008, but I remember England having a rule that if you come from a country that isn't ranked in the top 70 (or something) teams on FIFA's rankings that you do not get a work permit automatically. The process gets drawn out and you have to prove that you will make some sort of change in the premier league, that you will be of some significance in order to get your work permit.

I remember players losing their transfers to English teams because of this and others getting their work permits after appeals. This was of course mostly happening to lower ranked teams in the Premier League as they went after players from such countries. It always seem to me a bit unfair.

Is this still in place?
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England simply lost the game.  We never deserved to win.  We don't deserve anything in this competition and I would honestly feel great if Costa Rica draw with Italy today to teach English players that they need to be better next time.

I don't see the point in going through 2 years worth of Qualifications just to get to a tournament and go out in the first/second round.  You qualify, you win.

I just can't believe that the country that invented the game can't win the world cup.  48 years of misery for a country that gave football to the world and can't take it back.

They should change that theme song from "Football's coming home" to "England's coming home...we're coming home, we're coming home, early!"
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Did anybody see the Liverpool match yesterday?
The one where the Liverpool player set up the other  Liverpool player who happened to score 2 goals all against 5 of his liverpool team mates. Then he went off to be replaced by another liverpool player, while another Liverpool player came on for the other Liverpool team
It was a good game

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Oh yeah, Gerrard and Suarez really worked the Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart, shame they couldn't do that in the bloody season...

Yes, I'm a Liverpool fan.  A very reluctant one...

In all honesty though, if Joe Hart had RAISED HIS HAND he could've saved that second goal.  He just fell down like this -_- rather than <-_- (that means hand).

I swear it's like trying to watch a bunch of dimwitted jocks figure out what acid does if you spill it on your hand.
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Quoted from Scoob
Not to drift too far from the subject but I need to know how reducing foreign players would enhance England's chances.

I keep hearing on TV that we need more English players in the premier league. How that will benefit the national team. My argument is they are not good enough to play in the premier league. So we have to devalue the premier league in hope? Put in a load of English players just because they are English? Ha, good luck with that -- we'll go back to 1990's football aka clubs failing in the early rounds of european competitions.

Sometimes I wonder if the FA and the English media put Italia '90 and Euro '96 as an unreachable benchmark. We just about squeezed our way through to the semis in both competitions back then.


If teams had to rely more on English talent, they would be more willing to build up English talent, instead of buying foreign talent which are often cheaper than comparable British players.

Not saying that's the solution, by any means.

But if, say, all PL teams needed to have X number of British players on their squads and X number of British players in the line ups, I see no way that this wouldn't enhance English talent. Less than a third of the top 10 PL teams have squads with a strong English presence (which I am determining as 5 or more regular team members being English): Liverpool, Man U and Southampton. Arsenal and Everton are pretty decent as well, as they normally field squads with 3 or 4 English players as well. But surely, if the likes of Chelsea and Man City fielded squads with as many English players as these previously mentioned teams, this would result in more English players reaching these teams?

As I said, there's no sure fire way to improve England's performance, but doing something like this would definitely have some sort of positive impact.


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Being born and bred in Costa Rica... I'm very excited for my little team


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