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Posted: November 30th, 2016, 2:07pm Report to Moderator
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"Just the U.S. alone has over 500,000 sworn-in members or "Government officials" throughout all tiers, and that doesn't include appointees. Why in the hell would 300 million people need over a half a million to tell them how to live? And to think, we pay for them to do that, and quite handsomely. Do you need that in your daily life? Hell no."

That kind of common sense, sir, will make you very unpopular here!

Just teasing, everyone.

Chris: "Personally I think it's almost always money."

Depends. If they want to make money, they're more likely to show a hero doing heroic things. That includes patriotic things. If they want awards and critical acclaim, they burn the flag, so to speak. I mean let's be honest. The critics and the artistes and most of the creators despise the United States, patriotism, the flag, and of course the very concept of a corporation. If you're looking for an award, your Iraq War story has the rebels as the good gus and the Americans as the brutes. If you want to make money, you go more the other way.

Some of the movies actually do a pretty good job of showing both sides, and that's how it should be. But when it comes to awards, the movie makers know full well who is doing the voting.
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If you're looking for an award, your Iraq War story has the rebels as the good gus and the Americans as the brutes. If you want to make money, you go more the other way.


I'd agree to a certain extent. Lots of the "awards bait" topics -- slavery, war crimes, poverty, Native Americans and colonialism, etc. -- do tend away from straightforward heroes or outright pro-U.S. sentiment. Even more simply, maybe Oscar bait is typically depressing, so troubled heroes or anti-heroes make sense.

But, c'mon. Braveheart, The Hurt Locker, Gladiator, Forrest Gump, Unforgiven, Return of the King, Titanic, Schindler's List, Argo...these are hardly progressive or anti-conservative or anti-U.S.

I'll give you Crash, haha, but that movie was absolutely terrible. Dances with Wolves, American Beauty. Maybe 12 Years a Slave, though I didn't see it.

Anyway, I don't think it's quite so simple as brutish Americans.
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Last Samurai? lol
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US Presidents that most affect the movie biz:
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Jackson
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