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Andrew
Posted: December 17th, 2019, 9:00am Report to Moderator
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The last hour of Rogue One is some of the best Star Wars action put on film. And the Vader scene in the corridor. Amazing.

I also really appreciated that they fixed an annoying plot hole from A New Hope and explained why the Death Star had such an idiotic design flaw.

Rogue One might just be my third favorite Star Wars film.  


Completely agree, mate.

Talking of favourite Star Wars films, and because I saw it on Twitter yesterday, what's the ranking of Star Wars films for everyone?

Me:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. New Hope
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Rogue One
5. Force Awakens
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. The Last Jedi
8. Solo
9. Phantom Menace
10. Attack of the Clones


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1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Rogue One
4. Return of the Jedi
5. The Force Awakens
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. The Phantom Menace
8. Solo
9. Attack of the Clones
10. The Last Jedi
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SAC
Posted: December 17th, 2019, 10:22am Report to Moderator
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Been hearing lots of conflicting reports now after the premiere. Some said it's a slap in the face to Rian Johnson, that it Abrams over corrects him. Others are calling it epic, with a fantastic finale. We'll just have to wait and see!


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JEStaats
Posted: December 18th, 2019, 6:52pm Report to Moderator
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No sh*t, there I was....

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OMG, I just read the Forbes review..."worst Star Wars movie ever." It's not looking good for an epic finale.
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The Metacritic for it has fallen from 54 to 53 in the past 7 hours...


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MarkItZero
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"It’s not just that Rise of Skywalker undoes Last Jedi’s “it’s not your franchise anymore” metaphors—aimed at a generation that grew up loving Star Wars and then allowed two Palpatine-ish leaders (George W. Bush and Trump) to come into power—for generic “don’t worry, Star Wars is still the best!” fan bait"

--Forbes "professional" critic

The Last Jedi was the first movie that ever made me put my hands over my face to hide from the embarrassment of what I was watching on screen.

I'll be skipping this next one. Instead, I will watch Roadhouse again. Because Roadhouse is ten thousand times better than all Hollywood action movies nowadays.


That rug really tied the room together.
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I'll be skipping this next one. Instead, I will watch Roadhouse again. Because Roadhouse is ten thousand times better than all Hollywood action movies nowadays.


Badass '90s action-fest time. Queue up Die Hard With a Vengeance, Cliffhanger, Sudden Death and Con Air. That'd be a hell of a fun night.


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


Badass '90s action-fest time. Queue up Die Hard With a Vengeance, Cliffhanger, Sudden Death and Con Air. That'd be a hell of a fun night.


The Force is strong with this one.


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I have a very bad habit of going into movies with a cynical attitude and I have no plans to break that habit here.


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Warren
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Going to see this today, can't say I'm really looking forward to it, but it's an escape from the hell that is Sydney at the moment.


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So there were definitely some positives to seeing Rise of Skywalker today, I got out of the heat and smoke and when it was finished a nice southerly had blown most of the heat and smoke away... That's probably the end of the positives.

MAYBE SPOILERS - Not going to go out of my way to spoil anything, but just in case I do, you have been warned.

Oh god damn, what a dumpster fire of a movie this is. Can you dislocate an eye ball, I think I rolled my eyes so many times I may have.

Rey is the most ridiculous character ever, she is godlike to the point that you are never in any doubt that she will overcome EVERYTHING that comes her way. From her very first appearance on screen I think I made an audible groan. I just hate her so much!

This film is filled with terrible, like awful dialogue and so much exposition it's not funny, but I guess it had to be. They had to set up so much BS that wasn't in the first 2 films, they had to fill in so many blanks that they made, and when they weren't doing that they were literally telling the audience what was happening because we are all a bunch of morons.

Not one of these characters is likeable, even the ones we know and love are reduced to unlikable characters.

Actually I'll give it one thing, it looks amazing, everything looks amazing, but who cares! The plot is thin at best, the characters are f@#king terrible and there are no stakes, even death isn't a problem anymore.

What an utter piece of shit. Star Wars is cancelled.


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Andrew
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Ahhh, man.

Extremely disappointing, to say the least.

It's not a poorly made movie, and the scaffolding is in place, with perfomances all hitting fine, the aesthetics and set pieces being what they should, an appeal to the sensibilities of fans, etc.

What's missing is heart, and a hard to describe sense that this just isn't a Star Wars movie. It feels more like a Marvel movie than a Star Wars movie, but doesn't even achieve that, falling instead somewhere in between the two.

Clearly it's lacking an overarching vision and sense of direction narratively, with the well documented fracas on TLJ leaving the sequel trilogy in a no man's land.

Force Awakens, in my view, really did feel like a Star Wars movie. It managed to hit the sweet spot between nostalgia and opening up the possibilities of a new era, whilst decontaminating the brand after the prequel triology. Of course, TLJ came in and decided to act as a fresh take, and paid very little attention to continuity, which is where the real problems come in. That said, FA did set up some narrative cul-de-sacs which has plagued the entirety of the trilogy.

There's just really no heart here, no stakes or investment in the journey, a truly bizarre arc for both Rey and Ren, and a First Order that has no purpose to exist within the confines of the story.

Just feel a little gutted to see the wonder stripped from the series.


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Oi. The movie is released. And this would be should be the hottest thread atm. My controversial post may have scared people off, or I don't know... It will be deleted. Best wishes Alex



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Scar Tissue Films
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Overall, I loved it.

At times to felt like it was trying so, so hard to make us like it. The analogy that came to mind was a girlfriend you're with who really loves you and you've gone off her, and she's doing everything she can, bending over backwards to make you happy, but you're not feeling it.

However, it won me the over by the end, restored the legacy of the old films and left it all tied up nicely.

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Warren
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restored the legacy of the old films and left it all tied up nicely.


Not sure we watched the same film. Interested to know how you think it restored the legacy if you don't mind sharing?


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