Quoted from irish eyes I want to extend my OWC onto the 7WC... Not for myself, or those who enjoyed my OWC.... But for this: Yes... I wrote MITCH. I`m glad you enjoyed it Darren.. a simple "didn`t work for me" would have been better... but whatever... It screamed pisstake to you, because that`s exactly what it was... a pisstake on the political world... a pisstake on the U.N, a pisstake on the social network, a pisstake on witches and warlocks. Sorry that your stunned about SS peers letting it go... maybe they have a sense of humor or saw exactly for what it was.... A pisstake! I never claimed to be a great writer, because I`m not.... I do what I can and as comedy has no bells or whistles, that is how it should be taken.... You either like it or you don`t and those who didn`t like it left me comments on how to improve. Ah well can`t wait to find out your script, I`m sure it`s the greatest OWC ever wrote... By the way you spelled "toilet" wrong. Mark p.s  I don`t why I let your comments get to me,  maybe I`m just tired from my daughter`s 4 year old birthday party... The joys of parenthood.

^^^^^  awesome.

bravo mark.

THAT'S how you take harsh criticism. with a giant middle finger and a "i'll show YOU" attitude.

Quoted from Penoyer79 ^^^^^  awesome. bravo mark. THAT'S how you take harsh criticism. with a giant middle finger and a "i'll show YOU" attitude.

That's also how you make matters worse, smart guy.

Quoted from irish eyes I want to extend my OWC onto the 7WC... Not for myself, or those who enjoyed my OWC.... But for this: Yes... I wrote MITCH. I`m glad you enjoyed it Darren.. a simple "didn`t work for me" would have been better... but whatever... It screamed pisstake to you, because that`s exactly what it was... a pisstake on the political world... a pisstake on the U.N, a pisstake on the social network, a pisstake on witches and warlocks. Sorry that your stunned about SS peers letting it go... maybe they have a sense of humor or saw exactly for what it was.... A pisstake! I never claimed to be a great writer, because I`m not.... I do what I can and as comedy has no bells or whistles, that is how it should be taken.... You either like it or you don`t and those who didn`t like it left me comments on how to improve. Ah well can`t wait to find out your script, I`m sure it`s the greatest OWC ever wrote... By the way you spelled "toilet" wrong. Mark p.s  I don`t why I let your comments get to me,  maybe I`m just tired from my daughter`s 4 year old birthday party... The joys of parenthood.

Sounds like they did.
And I already said my OWC wasn't the best. Far from it.
So I misspelled one word in a post, And that word.
Makes the SS kool-aid drinkers feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

To each his own.
And if I had simply written these two following sentences:


I'm sorry I had to quit after page two, it wasn't for me, did nothing for me.
Congrats on completing the OWC!



--stuff like that irks peeps alone.

Have names been revealed yet?  For some reason, I'm not getting E-Mail notifications on alot of these threads.

Not sure what the deal is.

Congrats to the top vote getters - do we know who the writers actually are?

Quoted from Dreamscale Have names been revealed yet?  For some reason, I'm not getting E-Mail notifications on alot of these threads. Not sure what the deal is. Congrats to the top vote getters - do we know who the writers actually are?

Nope.  We're still waiting for Don to pull back the curtain.

OK, thanks for that, Ryan.

I feel like I'm out of the loop here for some reason.     Maybe that's a good thing?

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley That's also how you make matters worse, smart guy.

...seeing as you were the only one who had a real problem with his screenplay.. i would disagree.

i also think your criticism was borderline ..if not totally out of line. the kind of thing that's been talked about exhaustively on this board.


and there's a difference between saying only "it didnt work for me congrats on completion of owc" and going on a 2 post rant....

Quoted from Penoyer79 ...seeing as you were the only one who had a real problem with his screenplay.. i would disagree. i also think your criticism was borderline ..if not totally out of line. the kind of thing that's been talked about exhaustively on this board. and there's a difference between saying only "it didnt work for me congrats on completion of owc" and going on a 2 post rant....

If someone called you out and another person made false statements about the situation, and encouraged poor behavior would you be alright with that? If you did respond to both persons, how would you feel if one of them came back with not one, but two incorrect statements and said you ranted?

Yeah, you might want to post another response...or, I'm sorry,...




I also try to avoid repeating things that others say, be it negative or positive. If I'm one of the first pairs of eyes, then yes, I usually will be more in depth if I can. I didn't do it this time.

But this is the last time I'm going to address the matter. It isn't worth the time. If Don feels I was out of line with that post on Mitch, if he asks me to edit or delete that post I will do so. But don't make me out to be a hate-monger or a mean spirited reviewer. Nothing is further from the truth.

Quoted from leitskev - Don Could Mice and Men be expanded into a feature? I am thinking of just that thing. I like the ending here, though, so this would be the end of the script. Mirela sees the camp liberated, but she will not live to be free. That was why I put her, in mouse form, behind a grate in the last shot. It's supposed to resemble prison bars. And to me, this symbolizes the fact that even camp survivors are never truly free of the horror that haunts them.

Kev!  Definitely do that!  Didn't think that M&M could be expanded, because I thought of the short as the beginning of a feature.  But you're right.  Reverse this sucker, and you could have a very poignant, emotionally deep feature on your hands, a real gem.  DO IT.

i was simply applauding irish eyes for standing up for himself against a pretty stern shoot down of his script (obviously satire is not your thing)

reading back on some previous posts....i saw nothing false at all in either exchange.

i thought your post(s) spoke clearly for themselves.

but i digress.

I see it as a passion project, like my other one, you know what. I think I'll work on it over time. I actually have 3 features started at the moment, all of which I like, and am helping someone else with one. Not enough hours in the day!

I did a lot of research on youtube after I entered it. I researched Gypsy(Romani) culture, as well as the holocaust.

I've definitely become fascinated with the origin and plight of the Gypsies. I wish I could research that in person for the script, meet some traditional Gypsies. But at least there's youtube.

A problem with the Holocaust is that it's too evil for film. Obviously I knew a fair amount about it before, but seeing the horrible pictures and reading the stories...just unbelievable. It's so horrible that you really don't want to recreate in film the way it really was...it's just too much. But then you don't do it justice when you don't. So I'm not sure how to handle that.

The worst is what they did to the children, especially the medical experiments. They had a thing for twins, because you could do things to one then compare to the other. At Auschwitz they had, I think, 1600 twins, and only 100 survived. The few surviving pictures give testament to the inhumanity. They even took kids and surgically joined them together to artificially create Siamese twins! They punctured eyes, poisoned, and removed limbs, all without anesthesia. Inhuman. If I could go back in time...

Anyway, I'm thinking of this: The Nazis move into Italy to help repel the Allied invasion(it has to be a country they moved into late for the sake of the story, since there is a liberation at the end). At first, they are preoccupied, but the Gypsies and Jews know what's about to happen.

Mirela has long dreamed of America. A fortune teller confirmed that her future husband waits there. She's eager to get out. Yoska, who I will now make her twin brother, wants to remain. He does not wish to leave the clan. And he is sickly. They argue.

One day, when she is out in the woods, the Nazis come and take her clan, including Yoska. She still might make it to her friend who can get her to American(maybe they have friends in the American lines, which are moving up Italy). But she refuses to leave Yoska. She allows herself to be captured by the Nazis in order to find and help her brother.

Deana, the Jewish girl, becomes her friend in camp. She's a fighter by nature, as we saw in the short. When push comes to shove, and she has the chance to fight back, she does what we see. In a feature this would be a little longer. There'd be an evil guard or two that she kills, something that gives the audience satisfaction.

Mirela has always been troubled by Gypsy ways. She thinks of the future, of being modern. She resents the magic and the superstition, even when she knows some of the magic. Now she uses it, but she respects the rule that it can not be used for violence, that this will only have a karma like echo of misfortune.

I don't know, something like that. I like the closing image because it represents to me how one could never escape the horror of those camps, even if they survived. In mouse form, her body about to go into the oven, her hours ticking away, she sees the Allies about to liberate the camp. She tastes freedom, but will never have it. However, at least her brother will survive to tell her tale.

Or I could have the mouse looking for her body!

Sooo... Who wrote what?

The Other Side Of The Fence.

These forums seem a bit dead so I will come out and officially say I wrote How to Make Me Disappear.

Hellfire.

I really appreciate the great comments, they're spot on. It was rushed, I only had two days to write it and it showed. I think it's great so many of you picked up on that and called me out on it!