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Warren
Posted: February 1st, 2018, 8:00pm Report to Moderator
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I can only speak for myself, I'm not going to PM and beg for reviews, that's not me  


I definitely wouldn’t see it as begging. I’ve been ask by three people to provide reviews and I did, simple as that. Only reason I asked for a PM is because most people know how I review at this point, so if you think there is any value in what I have to say, ask. For those that would rather not get my type of review, this time round they don’t have to.


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I agree. These are vomit drafts


Surely this isn’t what most people think, vomit drafts? I’ve never entered an OWC with something that hasn’t been given the attention it deserves. I don’t think time constants can be blamed for bad spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It takes a couple of minutes to do a spell check and run it through Grammarly. Also if you have a 15 page script it shouldn’t take you more than fifteen minutes to give it a once over to check for mistakes. Can’t tell me you are so pressed for time that you can’t do that in a two week period.


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I wish people would focus their feedback with OWCs on: meeting the challenge, how good a story it is, and how well it would transition to film.


Why can’t people just review any way they want, providing ideas or remarks on areas of screenwriting they feel comfortable with? I like format and style so I comment heavily on that, but then I give my two cents on what I thought about the story. I stuggle enough coming up with my own ideas so, for me, trying to help someone change or better storyline is tricky.

Others will only comment on story, others only on format and obvious errors. Put it all together and you can end up with a very well rounded review with a lot of different perspectives on a lot of different areas of screenwriting.






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...it shouldn’t take you more than fifteen munities to give it a once over to check for mistakes.


Or maybe 16 munities.



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Warren
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Or maybe 16 munities.


Yeah, because that’s the important part of what I said. You’re always so helpful.

This isn’t a script, just ramblings.





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You’re always so helpfully.






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I can only speak for myself, I'm not going to PM and beg for reviews, that's not me,  

I didn't enter and I'm pretty busy these days. I figured I can read a couple or so, that's why I said if you want me to read, just send me a pm. Never did I suggest that in order to get read, you need beg!  


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Warren
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You seriously need to get a life Stump.


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Again, I can only speak for myself but I work full time and have family commitments. Writing is a hobby that I indulge in when I have the spare time. Usually this means I get maybe 2 to 3 hours of script writing a week...sometimes it means no writing at all.

For me to do a script in a week usually means a draft in 3 hours. I spend all week planning, researching, getting as prepared as I can. I always, always check it over and give it a final polish before submitting but it will have grammatical errors and typos that spell check misses. It won't be as lean as it could, it may have more orphans than people like and it may not flow as smoothly as it should. It is a vomit draft.

Now I do really appreciate anyone who takes the time to point out such things as it saves me time hunting them down. But I can fix those with a more focused polish. What I'm really after is issues with the story and characters. Those won't become obvious just be me staring at the page.

What happens after every OWC is I take all the comments and use them to do a solid first draft. And for that, this event is priceless! Asking for review is just not my style, it does feel to me like I'm begging. But I do appreciate every review whatever your reviewing style is.

This owc was different as I had 2 weeks but I spent over a week coming up with the idea, the back story and world building.



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I had to pass on this one, been too busy and then too busy recovering from being too busy.
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All finished. I only hated three of them. Pretty solid roster this time around.


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I didn't enter this one ... but I hate to admit but I've never spent more then a few hours on writing a script for the owc. I spend most of the week rambling ideas through my head... and if one hits me even last minute I write it. So all of mine are vomit drafts... Sometimes I do not even have time to read them over before sending them in ... and while I do not win very often, I have gotten a few mugs over the years so I'm very happy about that. I'm very lucky maybe. I don't like to comb over scripts.. even my features and I've optioned vomit drafts. So well.. everyone is different. I have a full time job, a husband and two dogs and a life. I write because I love it .. and I really believe that spending the time thinking of a great concept is more important that a few spelling mistakes. It's story for me.
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Because filmmakers look for a good story and don't worry about the other stuff. The technical details are easily fixed.  


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So you love to write vomit drafts... makes sense.

Seems more logical that if you love the craft of writing you'd have some interest in the actual craft of writing.

Why are people making out that taking a few minutes to check spelling and grammar is such a big deal?

It may very well be the case that good stories get picked up regardless of how shit the writing is, but who doesn't like reading a well written script?


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My spelling errors and typos are underlined for me as I write, so I often can simply right-click the word and select an alternate spelling. Sometimes, I'm so lazy that I only write an approximation of the word I want and then right click to change it.

I will not read a badly written script. I don't mind story issues as I find those all the time with produced stuff too... but spelling and grammar must be on point to a certain degree - allowing leeway for 'voice'.
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There were no badly written scripts this time around. Maybe it's because the challenge was not heavily advertised and there were no newcomers to screenwriting.

Spellcheck is easy, it's the other stuff like word choice and word placement for me. I have to search obvious things during writing. For example I don't know which way is correct "he sets aside his plate when done" or "he sets his plate aside when done" --the search didn't return much on this one. I don't mind when you point it out though. Usually in the OWC people don't tell me the exact mistakes, they just say "weird word choice"
That's a bummer, but what can you do, it's OWC, people read and comment fast. It's an additional push either way. But I'd appreciate examples, I won't lie here. Cuz the weird word choice isn't that weird to me, so at first I go "man, not again" then "I've got to fix it" and then "but I don't know what I need to fix" - so in the end I leave yhe script alone. It's gotten better though over time. Last time people mostly asked if I was British.
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My English used to be horrendous, not to mention my grammar. By reading a lot and having auto correct on pretty much every device these days and easily accessible thesauruses online, I'm pretty decent these days. Whenever I send out a script for coverage or to a publisher or such, I almost always get told it was well written and a fast read. So, I've come a long way, but it takes time.

Whenever I read someone's script, especially features, I almost always point out spelling errors, unless there are too many, then I just mention that their are a LOT of typos throughout. While reading, they never bother me though. Except for one time I read a feature where the writer wrote HANGER instead of HANGAR every other slug. It drove me crazy! Lol!


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