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I'm excited for Battfleck but that's about it. The trailer looks forced, lackluster, and unfocused. As others have mentioned, I don't see why they needed to include Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, Doomsday, etc. But therein lies the problem, producers and franchise building. Neither Marvel films nor DC movies can be standalone movies anymore. They have to be a part of the bigger picture. Even Guardians of the Galaxy had to play into the whole  Thanos storyline (and I would argue it's the weakest part of the movie).

That being said, DC just flat out sucks. I couldn't be less excited for BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, etc. Nobody cares about any of the characters. Maybe the comics just don't translate well to film.

Side note, the new Civil War trailer looks pretty slick. The superhero bubble needs to pop but until then, they're going to squeeze every nickel and dime out of the genre.


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They need Wonder Woman and the others (Aquaman, etc) to set up the Justice League franchise and properly compete with Marvel, whom DC is already way behind. I think it's as simple as that.


I know. I just don't think it's the right move. Iron Man 3 made like over 1.2 billion. The last two Batman movies made over a billion. While Age of Ultron made like 1.4. You don't need to bunch together everyone to make a lot of money. They should just focus on making good movies. If the movie is good, the money will come.
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Neither Marvel films nor DC movies can be standalone movies anymore. They have to be a part of the bigger picture. Even Guardians of the Galaxy had to play into the whole  Thanos storyline (and I would argue it's the weakest part of the movie).

Superheros teaming up is what people want. Avengers 1 and 2 are in the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time. That's saying something isn't it?


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That being said, DC just flat out sucks. I couldn't be less excited for BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, etc. Nobody cares about any of the characters. Maybe the comics just don't translate well to film.

You couldn't be more wrong. I, along with millions of other people love these characters and can't wait to see them on screen.

Heath Ledgers joker was one of the best Characters ever I have seen. These characters can DEFINITELY translate to screen.
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From what I've seen of Suicide Squad (which I had never heard of until a few months back lol) the version of Harley Quinn (ironically played by an Aussie, Margot Robbie) looks like a cupie doll. She should be the carbon copy of the char in the Arkham video games!  Looks totally ridiculous.  And don't even mention Marilyn Manson playing the Joker lol



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Superheros teaming up is what people want. Avengers 1 and 2 are in the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time. That's saying something isn't it?


It was what the people wanted, but that's not going to last forever. The superhero bubble will pop. In fact, I wouldn't doubt if BvS doesn't make as much money as the studios expect and it starts to shake their confidence in the genre. Furthermore, just because it's a box office hit doesn't necessarily make it a good movie. Age of Ultron was god awful and The Avengers was mediocre at best. So no, how much a movie makes worldwide doesn't mean much to me.


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You couldn't be more wrong. I, along with millions of other people love these characters and can't wait to see them on screen.

Heath Ledgers joker was one of the best Characters ever I have seen. These characters can DEFINITELY translate to screen.


Yeah, The Dark Knight is one of the most overrated films in cinema history IMHO. And if Heath Ledger didn't OD, then no one would have remembered his performance. Name one other character from the DC universe that people enjoy on film. Superman sucks, Green Lantern really sucks, Aquaman is going to suck. Marvel trumps DC at almost every turn, but especially on camera.


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It was what the people wanted, but that's not going to last forever. The superhero bubble will pop. In fact, I wouldn't doubt if BvS doesn't make as much money as the studios expect and it starts to shake their confidence in the genre. Furthermore, just because it's a box office hit doesn't necessarily make it a good movie. Age of Ultron was god awful and The Avengers was mediocre at best. So no, how much a movie makes worldwide doesn't mean much to me.



Yeah, The Dark Knight is one of the most overrated films in cinema history IMHO. And if Heath Ledger didn't OD, then no one would have remembered his performance. Name one other character from the DC universe that people enjoy on film. Superman sucks, Green Lantern really sucks, Aquaman is going to suck. Marvel trumps DC at almost every turn, but especially on camera.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's all it is... An opinion.

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I know. I just don't think it's the right move. Iron Man 3 made like over 1.2 billion. The last two Batman movies made over a billion. While Age of Ultron made like 1.4. You don't need to bunch together everyone to make a lot of money. They should just focus on making good movies. If the movie is good, the money will come.


I agree completely.


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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's all it is... An opinion.



Well if that's the case, movie studios have a lot of money riding on "opinions."


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In regard Wonder Woman, I honestly feel that her appearance in this film is merely to boost the viewing public's knowledge of her before they release the Wonder Woman franchise. Bit of a con, that the screenwriter MUST wrangle a Wonder Woman sub plot in there just so we want to spend money at the theatre to see her when her own film comes out.

I do kinda like the idea of Wonder Woman though... and I think it would have worked without this appearance in Batman. I used to watch the old series as a kid.

Damn, now I'm doing exactly what they want, I'm pushing Wonder Woman for them. I'm nothing but a sheep. Baa.
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Damn, now I'm doing exactly what they want, I'm pushing Wonder Woman for them. I'm nothing but a sheep. Baa.

They win. Again
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Reviews are rolling in. Sounds like a drag, both in the literal and colloquial sense. I was cautiously optimistic, but only ever casually interested. At this point, I get the sense this isn't something to see on a lark.


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Well James, keep in mind that those reviews are just opinions. And opinions mean nothing in movie making. All film making is subjective. Nothing is good and nothing is bad.

Alright, I'm done being a pissant. 40 reviews deep and it's currently sitting at a 40% on RT. Critics are saying it's overly drab, devoid of any humor, and downright boring. It's almost as if the filmmakers forgot to make the movie fun. Not that movies have to be fun, but a superhero film shouldn't be a chore to watch.

Oh and I've heard Doomsday looks outright horrendous. Less like a movie and more like a video game.

Let's all hope the disappointing box office numbers will deter WB from continuing this lifeless franchise.



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I'm waiting for Ant Man vs. Superman. The winner to face Rocky Balboa


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Bond versus Bourne

then...

...in space

....with muppets

....and the avengers (60's English version or course)

And light sabers.  And a wookie.

The possibilities are endless .


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