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You must write a script, properly formatted between 6 and 12 pages (courier 12 point font).

This month's theme and genre are:

Genre: Gothic Horror  -- this is a link about Gothic Horror
Theme: Ghosts are not bad, just misunderstood

One character must be a ghost.  By the end of the story, the reader must understand that the ghost isn't "the bad guy".

  1. This is a free challenge (not a contest).
  2. One entry per person.  
  3. Script must be in PDF format.
  4. Script must be properly formatted
  5. Script must be between 6 to 12 pages
  6. Do not put your name on the script.  The scripts will be anonymous for the first week or so. (After the exercise closes you can either have your script removed or resubmit the script with your name on it).
  7. Do use your real name and real email when you submit your script.  
  8. You are strongly encouraged to read and comment on at least three to five other scripts.  Your participation does have an impact on the Writer's Choice selection process.  Registration on the discussion board is free (and we don't spam you).
  9. Script must be received by Friday, October 14th at 11:59 pm e.d.t..
  10. Please put "(c) Copyright 2011" on your script.

Script must be submitted  here

This is only an exercise. There is no prize for winning (after all, we all win if we have fun). There will not be an official judging for the best script (after all, we all win if we have fun). All submitted scripts will be posted anonymously for a few weeks before the writers are revealed.

The Schedule:
10/7 - theme and genre revealed
10/14  11:59 pm e.d.t..- submissions due
10/15 - 10/18 - scripts posted without author's names
10/25 - Writer's choice selection due
10/31 - (tentative) audio presentation of one selected script presented by iScript.com.

Thank you to iScript.com for sponsoring this free challenge!






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JACK(40) a ghost, sits sadly in a corner. He's as depressed as Jeff Bush watching his pathetic Rams get their arses handed to them yet AGAIN by the rampant Niners...



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Quoted from Don
Genre: Gothic Horror

Theme: Ghosts are not bad, just misunderstood


Next, on Ion, Jennifer Love Hewitt is The Ghost Whisperer.


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Good choice. I'll try to come up with something.  


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Kevin's gonna love this!  We should all surrender the title now.  )))  
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Sounds pretty cool. Ouija boards at the ready!



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Seems like a good one.
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In case anyone has questions about Gothic here's a wiki link about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_fiction

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Don's edit.  Michael,  Thanks for the link.  This link may prove a little more readable:

http://tracy-morris.suite101.com/gothic-horror-a128558

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Gothic Horror???

Some one please explane.

I think Gothic, I think of kids my son hung out with in hgh school.

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Did we ENTER at almost the same  time Michael???
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I like it.

Good premise, Don.
Very nice.



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After reading the wikipedia article, just a couple questions.  Does the story have to be set during the Gothic period?  Or can we just incorporate some of the Gothic archtypes into a modern setting?
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Wiki is so inspiring!

PETER (169) a Perambulating Skeleton, sways from side to side to Depeche Mode.


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Quoted from Ryan1
After reading the wikipedia article, just a couple questions.  Does the story have to be set during the Gothic period?  Or can we just incorporate some of the Gothic archtypes into a modern setting?


I think the answer will be that it will be loose as far as setting is concerned.
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Bah...happy endings.

Good that people seem to like the theme, but not sure this one is for me...


Hey, it's my tiny, little IMDb!
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Quoted from Ryan1
After reading the wikipedia article, just a couple questions.  Does the story have to be set during the Gothic period?  Or can we just incorporate some of the Gothic archtypes into a modern setting?


Ryan,

I am going to be purposely vague as I don't want to lead folks down a particular path.  I don't consider a Gothic Horror to be of a particular period in time, although the mid to late 19th century was the time period that Gothic Horror was very popular.  

I would recommend this link http://tracy-morris.suite101.com/gothic-horror-a128558 that I posted in the challenge as useful in helping you to define what Gothic Horror is.

Don


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Since I have absolutely no feeling for this genre, I think I'll just skip this one.

But I'll be a good sport and still read and comment the entries, so good luck everyone.


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I like the theme and genre, though I wonder how many people will achieve the sensuous subtext of traditional Gothic fiction or choose go full-front into it. Indeed Paranormal Romance and Gothic Horror can be easily blurred, but I think only the former can be considered an off-shoot of the latter, and not vice-versa.

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I'm keen to do a period piece Gothic horror script.

My wife is into that type of fiction.

Not sure how I'll fit the Beatles in yet, but they did have bands of mysterious musicians flitting around the windswept villages in them days...



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A wonderful challenge  .

I can't wait to read all the spooky stories   right on time for Halloween.

Hopefully I can come up with something, too.

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Very nice.  I have 2 days before I leave...I'll have to get on it immediately.

Bert...who said it has to be a happy ending?  I didn't see that anywhere in the challenge?

The ghost isn't a big baddie, but happy ending...BWOOOHAHA!!!!!!!!!  Never!

Gothic, classic Hammer horror...here we come!
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OK, ladies and gents, since time is not my friend for this OWC, I have to jump in, balls out, so to speak.  And I have my story ready...well, I have my initial idea, at least.

I'll bang it out ASAP and will definitely submit something for your reading entertainment.  Don't be surprised if Ernest Borgnine rears his old, ugly head, or you see a well placed V.O. fro, Christopher Lee.

Happy OWC'ing to you all...
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Good luck to all. Can't wait to read these.

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Im in!

Yeah its been a tough first few scripts, but I'll get better.

Could be 2019 before I do though. :]


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I'll give it a bash, from what I can tell, tragedy and character flaws are a part of the genre so, with my nearly zero interest in gothic horror, I hope my take on it is at least in the same ball park!
Maybe something about a child who dies and comes back as a ghost but is actually quite friendly... Now I need a decent name for him... got it! - Jasper!


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Sounds like Casper's cousin or alter ego.
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I decided on an old Nintendo franchise, Castlevania.  I think I'll just try and do a screen to page transcription of the first 10 minutes or so of the game, then tack on some kind  of Gothic ending.

Thoughts?

I'm very excited about this idea...wait till you read about the flying axe and holy water.  Yipee!
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Hmm. This will require some thought.

Despite growing up with Hammer, and for that matter the old Universal Horror films, I'm not a great one for "Gothic" horror - I have written ghost stories (incl for an October OWC a couple of years ago), but none could be described as "Gothic" in any sense of the generic term.

But that is the point of a "challenge" after all, to do something different, try something new.

So we shall see...
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As there is no mention of budget i assume we dont have to bear this in mind, even though it's a short?

Just thought i should check before i set something on the distant planet of Gothicara where they are having a serious bout of rioting ghosts. Could happen!

Actually, now i think of it...



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Hmmm...that got me thinking.  Maybe I'll throw a little Ghosts of Mars into my Castlevania short.  YES...I've got it!!!


"Castlevania:  The Ghosts of Mars 2"
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Anyone else think this challenge almost contradicts itself?


Quoted from Don's Link
“The gothic builds up the protagonist until he achieves what he's after, and then details the terrible consequences of achieving it. This sits in contrast to paranormal romance, wherein the main character generally seems to be rewarded for achieving (or dating) the forbidden.”


I know nothing about Gothic writing although I've read some books they mention. They all seem to end badly. Yet, we're challenged to write about a ghost who, in the end, isn't as bad as it appears. That sounds like paranormal romance to me.

Fuck it, just writing a ghost story in an old mansion/building. you can all throw your shoes at me.

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No, I don't think it contradicts itself, but it does narrow it down slightly.

For instance the protagonist may spend his time trying to get rid of the ghost...and achieve his aim, but it turns out the ghost was actually doing something good. That would be consistent with the genre and theme.
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Can the good thing the ghost tries to do, be having sex with all the characters?  That would be a good Gothic ghost, right?  Could be very romantic, even...
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A ghost doing a terrible thing to a terrible person might be considered a good ghost, one dispensing justice.
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I'm not sure I have a good grasp of what exactly it is, but either way I'm interested to see what you guys come up with.
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I'm working on the Oct OWC. I have only just began writing so hopefully I can get some good feedback to help me as I continue.
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We're there for you, Zanej!    (Just remember, it should remain anonymous until the reveal later on by Don...)  
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Zane, this is the right place to start. You'll get at least 15 reads and comments, hopefully more. Do your best to stick to format, post if you have any questions.
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Wasn't going to enter anything because I'm busy, but then an idea hit me right away and it's been moaning "write me! write me!" all day, so I might have to.  


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Quoted from Reef Dreamer
As there is no mention of budget i assume we dont have to bear this in mind, even though it's a short?



Budget is not a consideration.  Budget is up to you.

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Quoted from jwent6688
Anyone else think this challenge almost contradicts itself?


"The gothic builds up the protagonist until he achieves what he's after, and then details the terrible consequences of achieving it".
Get what you want and regret it.
Law of unintended consequences.
What the protag wants is actually bad. (Child abductor captures a kid! Horayyy! Oh... wait... )


"... in contrast to paranormal romance, wherein the main character generally seems to be rewarded for achieving (or dating) the forbidden."
Spirit spanking.
Lost soul humping.
Gho(st) jobs. (Yanking someone's chain in a good way)!







Quoted from Don
Budget is not a consideration.  Budget is up to you.

Cool.

I'm going this route, then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VdONYkKFmQ



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To me, "Gothic Horror" is a feel, a tone, a look that involves certain "Gothic" qualities, settings, etc.  As far as I'm concerned the romance aspect ain't involved...at least it ain't gonna be involved in my Ghosts of Mars 2 script.
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Romance is always an element of Gothic Horror.
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Well. "always" is something that's tough to use, as molds are "always" meant to to be broken.

You go with your typical 3 act structure, cliche characters and plot, and while you're at it, why don't you even throw in one of your favorite "Save the Cat" moments, as well.

I'm going all in with Natasha Henstridge and Ghosts of Mars 2, set in a Gothic castle in Columbus, Ohio.
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So it seems the old "rule" of not revealing your intent to submit to the OWC is out the window now. That's cool with me. I'm in.

I know nothing of gothic horror and ghosts stories have never been my favorite type of horror, but I came up with a fairly solid idea last night, so I think I can get it done in time. Damn, I really need to get writing and reviewing again, I've taken a break from both for far too long. The OWC is a good time to do that, I guess.

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Not quite sure what the hoopla is all about.
I understand the challenge clearly. And the ghost doesn't have to be the main character. "Misunderstood" could mean a ghost wanting to solve thier own tragic end. It could be terrifying for the living. The ghost could still be the antagonist as well.



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Quoted from Pete B. Lane
So it seems the old "rule" of not revealing your intent to submit to the OWC is out the window now. That's cool with me. I'm in.

~Pete


Or is it?

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Gothic Horror, new one for me. Let's hope I'm able to wrangle up a story good enough for some praise.


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I finished my first draft. Now come the serious edits.


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Yeah I'm not entirely confident in this one, but I've got an idea to mull over. So there's that

Good luck everybody!!
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I'm thinking Poe here. Corman's version, at any rate! Masque of the Red Death Gothic stylee.

Currently writing my MoviePoet entry which could not be more different, plus working on 3,000 word essay for University, so just mulling over ideas for the moment, but definitely like the Poe approach I think...
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Quoted from Grandma Bear
Wasn't going to enter anything because I'm busy, but then an idea hit me right away and it's been moaning "write me! write me!" all day, so I might have to.  


Yeah, I know how *that* feels...  
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It's tough to be a ghost. You need or want something that you can't obtain without help from a person. Course, you have to let that person know that 1.) you are there and 2.) You need their help. Now, if that person doesn't particularly believe in ghosts or chooses to not help, well, dang it, sometimes you gotta rattle some windows or levitate some cleaning products (true story) in order to get their attention. Even then, your chances are not real good...

Excellent challenge topic!


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I finished my first draft but am having some major formatting issues.

I am using word have no plain Courier and am having trouble  figuring out where the margins are at. I have referenced the format section. But on the page I set margnes 1.5 left 1 rest and it ends at 6 inches.

Any help would be appreciated rather here or via PM.

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Zane, if you are going to screenwrite, you really will need a screen writing program. I did my first feature script last year on a word program, and it is not the way to go. I ended up buying software, but later found out there is free software called, I believe, Celtix, or something like that. You really want to download that and use that. It does the formatting for you, and of course you can adjust settings as desired.
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Go here and download Celtx.  This will set you straight.

http://celtx.com/


Good luck!
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I am using word have no plain Courier and am having trouble  figuring out where the margins are at. I have referenced the format section. But on the page I set margnes 1.5 left 1 rest and it ends at 6 inches.

Any help would be appreciated rather here or via PM.

Try this on.
See if it fits:
http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1289432024/s-0/



Hey, Jeff.
My link is bigger than your link.  



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It's not the size that matters...no wait, damn, I guess it is the size that matters. They lied to me! Ok, it's the lie that matters.

Pats will win by double digits today. How's that for Gothic Horror...or at least Gotham Horror.
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Thanks everyone I'm gonna check celtx out. Appreciate the quick response.
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Thanks again to everyone. Celtix was great. I am using script buddy for my featur script and it isn't half the program Celtix is. Almost done now
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I do recommend switching to Final Draft - once one knows that they're staying with writing, and the extra investment is therefore worth it.  Great program.  Unfortunate price....  
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Movie Magic Screenwriter is the way to go, actually.  Great product, not a bad price.  Check it out!
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Mine is finished.

Wonder who will come second?
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Nice job, Rick!  Love the attitude.  I'm hoping to finish in 15th place.
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Don't worry Jeff.

I've got some awkward phrasing and no doubt a few formatting nightmares in there for you to pick apart.
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Wouldn't think of it, Rick.  I'm sure it's good, as is.

My comments for this OWC are going to be as follows fro everyone...

"Great job!  Very well written."

"Good effort.  Fun read."

"With a few rewrites, this could really be special."
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
Mine is finished.

Wonder who will come second?


Janet submitted hers yesterday.  I could've submitted mine yesterday, but I thought I'd hold off.


Phil
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Hey, I wasn't going to tell anyone...!  
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Have all the ingredients for my script in my head, slowly mixing and digesting. Will start pen to paper today.

Its good to be into the challenge; I skipped the last 2 as they didn't grab me.

The Niners are pounding the Bucs as I write! And I already have 130 fantasy pts!!

Looking forward to reading all the scripts



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Quoted from stevie
I already have all the ingredients for a good pounding and head.

Slowly mixing and digesting today.

Its a good fantasy in my head.

Looking forward to grab me.


Oh, mate...everything OK there?

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I mate with everything



Start of a new week here so I'm using my free option right now!!!

Niners!! WOOHOO!!!




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Wow. It's Sunday Night and I haven't turned mine in yet.
Must be writer's block.



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I Still havent started yet. I dont even have a story yet.

Dang work and lack of sleep.

Thank gosh they arent due until the 14th! :]


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Just wrote about 4 pages in my notebook - I always write by hand first, it saves revision time too - while watching the Packs/Falcs game

It's coming out a bit different then I thought but it's ok. Will sleep on it and dream/imagine the rest of it in my head.



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Quoted from stevie
Will sleep and dream/imagine my hand and getting head.


Might as well use my cheat as well, sine you already jumped in.



Hey, your 49'ers sure looked good today.  Very impressive...glad I've got big Vernon Davis,a dn my fantasy team, the PuppetFishes are now 4-1, in first place and # 1 in the Power Rankings and total points scored.  BTW, the 1 game we lost?  Yeah, by 1/2 a frickin' point!!!!!

I need to get going on my OWC, as tomorrow is my deadline, as I move out Tuesday on a ride I don't want to be taking.  My main characters are an Aussie couple named Stevie and Natasha Hendstrige.  Hopefully, the real Stevie can use this in his dreams.



On a serious note, I truly hope everyone is coming along well on this OWC challenge.

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I'm 5-0 in my fantasy league!

Oh, and Natasha may use ME in her dreams...

Hey, cool coincidence... Macca got married again yesty - on John's birthday and at the same registry office where he married Linda.

At least Nancy won't steal his money like that one-legged maggot; she's as rich as him!!



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I don't think anyone is as rich as Macca!!!
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Hey, I'm trying to submit my finished OWC but there is no where to upload my script on the link to the enrollment? I seen a Logline but idk what that means.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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The upload is on the screen after the one you put the log line on.
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Thanks Michael, got my OWC submitted.
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Quoted from leitskev
Zane, if you are going to screenwrite, you really will need a screen writing program. I did my first feature script last year on a word program, and it is not the way to go. I ended up buying software, but later found out there is free software called, I believe, Celtix, or something like that. You really want to download that and use that. It does the formatting for you, and of course you can adjust settings as desired.


Disagree. The vast majority of the 40 or so scripts I have posted on here were written in Word. I have a small number that were written in Final Draft, but chances are, you would not be able to tell the difference between those and the Word ones. Once you get a groove on in Word (and know your formatting rules like that back of your hand), it's very easy to use and far more flexible than any screenwriting program. Remember that the old school screenplays were written on a typewriter. And any font of Courier works fine as long as it looks like typeset.


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I'm a big fan of Movie Magic Screenwriter myself, but the choice between that and Final Draft really simply come down to personal preference.

Word and OpenOffice can be excellent as well. Even if you don't have the formatting kung-fu down at George's level, there's plenty of templates for them as well. I used an OpenOffice template for years before I could gather the funds for MMS and you probably can't tell the difference. Most of them are really bad, of course. But there's some excellent ones out there.

For me, the main thing that a dedicated screenwriting program brings is the ease of use that can be a bit lacking with Word or OO, even with a cracking template.


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I was not suggesting it can't be done that way. Just that you put yourself at a disadvantage. Let's compare the old typewriter days. Yeah, you can do it that way, but if you want to make an adjustment on one line of one page, it might require you to retype everything after it. So the idea of rewriting a script would be very different. Granted, I supposed this encourages a certain discipline, but my guess is this is far, far outweighed by the efficiency of using a computer. There were also probably times where a writer decided against certain changes simply because he didn't want to retype the whole script.

I think a similar effect occurs when comparing word software to screen software. When I wrote my first script in word, any time changes were made it usually resulted in needed adjustments in the rest of the script. Very time consuming in the end. Time better spent writing. Someone more proficient with word might know tricks that make these problems go away. Maybe that is the case with George. But if you don't know those tricks, it's easier to learn how to use the screen software,

A tale of fonts: my first scripts were all written in what the setting said was 'courier'. Several people told me it looked off, but it said courier, so I didn't change it. Until Gary sent me over 'courier Final Draft'. The difference is shocking. When it applied to the feature I had just finished, the page count went from about 97 to 76...just by changing the font!!

I definitely suggest new writers at least try out the screen software before they make up their minds. Most people find them incredibly useful on saving time.
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I'm with George on this one.  Actually, I use a program a couple steps down from Word...  Microsoft Works Word Processor, baby!

And I wouldn't trade it for any screenwriting software I've tried before, and probably for any software yet to come.  I love it.  It's a lot more flexible than Celtx or the couple others I've tried.  Plus, I think it keeps me more more attune to the story, as I'm a lot more focused on not making errors.

I never have tried Final Draft, though, but I don't think I'm missing much.  Just don't have the money for it.  Well, I do, but I'd rather save it for something else when the system I'm using right now is working just fine for everything I need it to do.

I do have to transfer it over to Word to paginate it properly and convert it to .PDF, but that takes mere minutes.


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There were also probably times where a writer decided against certain changes simply because he didn't want to retype the whole script.


I never considered that, this is interesting because, generally speaking, most movie buffs would regard the majority of older films as better films.
Food for thought.

I have a question - disembodied voices (invisible ghost, whatever) V.O. or O.S.?


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O.S. stands for off screen and depicts a character that exists in the scene, but is not on camera.

V.O. stands for voiceover and is used for characters who are not in the current scene, or for characters' thoughts.

In the case of ghosts speaking, they would most likely be present in the scene, but simply unseen, so I would suggest O.S.



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A tale of fonts: my first scripts were all written in what the setting said was 'courier'. Several people told me it looked off, but it said courier, so I didn't change it. Until Gary sent me over 'courier Final Draft'. The difference is shocking. When it applied to the feature I had just finished, the page count went from about 97 to 76...just by changing the font!!


Courier New is the best you can get in Word or most Word Processors. Courier is older and is missing a few characters. The difference between Courier New and Courier Final Draft is the line spacing. I discovered this when I had characters such as Ä, and it cut off the umlaut. That would also be why you came out with fewer pages once it was all done.



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Darren, I am about the last person to be an authority on film. But I think it's worth keeping some things in mind. There was no shortage of bad films produced in the past. The great films stand the test of time, so they are well known to us. Also, the audiences were different. They did not have the short attention spans we have today. Now we have TV, video games, etc. Imagine the 1930s. There was no TV yet, just radio. What an experience it must have been to go to a movie and see things come to life on the big screen. This cannot be duplicated now. Even movies like the Godfather, from the early 70s, would not be successful today. But this is not the fault of modern screenwriters. It's just a changed world.

Shakespeare is the pinnacle of writing in the English language. But if the Bard were around today, I suspect he would be more than happy to have a typewriter, and even happier with a computer.

I seriously doubt older films were better because the writers were stuck using typewriters.

Some things in the world are hard to explain, too. For example, Abraham Lincoln wrote some of the most memorable prose of the language, and his speeches were true genius. And yet he had practically no education at all, and his parents were illiterate.

Mark, I use Works as well, for my documents, and did my first script on that. I figure it took me at least a couple of weeks longer to do just because of that. Every time I made changes on a page, I had to go back and fix everything that followed.

But, as long as the PDF comes out ok, to each his own.
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The courier final draft is in my system now, so it can be used for any documents. I actually usually do my script notes in that font.
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Thanks George - that's what I figured but wanted to make sure.
Leitskev - good point, very true.


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O.S. stands for off screen and depicts a character that exists in the scene, but is not on camera.

V.O. stands for voiceover and is used for characters who are not in the current scene, or for characters' thoughts.

In the case of ghosts speaking, they would most likely be present in the scene, but simply unseen, so I would suggest O.S.


Would this not be V.O. ? VO is also used for recorded voice when a character is not present in that scene. If the ghost is present, then neither apply, just like a normal character. If the ghost is next door, or in another room, then OS. If the ghost is a spirit that floats over the 'real' characters body who has just died, then it's a VO, has that also has to be recorded.
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Good news for some, bad news for others...

I will not be able to participate in this OWC.  I was hoping to be able to get my entry written and submitted today at the latest, but I haven't been able to.  I will be leaving on another big move tomorrow, not landing in my final destination until the weekend, and not getting moved in until late, the following week.

So, I AM OUT!

But, never fear...I'll try and pop in and bash a few scripts if they're worthy of a bashing.

have fun, everyone!  Really bummed I can't participate.
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I for one was looking forward to uncovering your "pisser"!
good luck with the move jeff.


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Would this not be V.O. ? VO is also used for recorded voice when a character is not present in that scene. If the ghost is present, then neither apply, just like a normal character. If the ghost is next door, or in another room, then OS. If the ghost is a spirit that floats over the 'real' characters body who has just died, then it's a VO, has that also has to be recorded.


IMHO, As V.O. is also used for narration where the characters on screen cannot hear what is being said, I think O.S. is more suitable.
The ghost is present, speaking, just can't be seen.




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It wasn't going to be a pisser.

I'm actually rally bummed, as I had a story ready and had already done my research.  I just don't see how I can write it now, as I'm in panic mode, as my move was just confirmed as tomorrow morning, and I expected it to be Wednesday morning.

You never know...if I get everything all packed up and ready sometimes this afternoon, I do have tonight, but at this moment, I'm quite stressed out.

Enjoy!
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You can always submit it after the OWC. It'll get plenty of reads.
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IMHO, As V.O. is also used for narration where the characters on screen cannot hear what is being said, I think O.S. is more suitable.
The ghost is present, speaking, just can't be seen.


If a character is there, ie anywhere where the boom mic can pic up the sound but can't be seen, then it's a OS. If however the voice we hear is to represent a ghost we can't see that IMo is a VO, as it's recorded.


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Quoted from ReneC
New to this particular board, using the OWC as an excuse to jump right in.


The water's fine.  Just watch out for those sand crabs.
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Quoted from mcornetto


The water's fine.  Just watch out for those sand crabs.


Nah, Jeff's out of this one...you're good

On a side note, Jeff, you could always hand over your idea to me...I'm still stressing that I don't have a good one!! I had something I thought could work, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's too big of an idea for a short
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Or am I out?  

BWOOHAHA!!!!!!!
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Jeff, and crabs. Never takes long for the ladies to figure you out Jeff.

Both of my other OWC admissions took a day to write. but I'm stuck on this one. I have the story elements, but can't make them work yet.
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I've written something, not exactly sure what it is yet, but it's something.

I'll see how it pans out during the week.

Must avoid watching Ken Russell's "Gothic". Eyes for nipples and all that.





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Changing what time period mine takes in for my 2nd draft.


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If you want me to read your script, send me a link.
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I was not suggesting it can't be done that way. Just that you put yourself at a disadvantage. Let's compare the old typewriter days. Yeah, you can do it that way, but if you want to make an adjustment on one line of one page, it might require you to retype everything after it. So the idea of rewriting a script would be very different. Granted, I supposed this encourages a certain discipline, but my guess is this is far, far outweighed by the efficiency of using a computer. There were also probably times where a writer decided against certain changes simply because he didn't want to retype the whole script.



Well, actually they'd just have to retype the page. If the changes meant that the text on the page would move to the next page, they'd simply put an extra page with the stuff that didn't fit. You see it a lot in older, typewritten, scripts. It's full of pages with only a single line of dialogue or a couple of action elements. The extra pages would be numbered differently so that they didn't affect the page count.

Still, quite a hassle.


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I really never imagined this would be something people would argue. I was just trying to give what I assume is a new writer a tip. It's none of my affair how people want to write. If someone thinks writing was better in the days before electricity, then by all means, write by candle. I personally have found software a great help, even though the program I use is very buggy. Most people seem to use software. But whatever works for folks, I'm cool with it.
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Quoted from Blakkwolfe
It's tough to be a ghost. You need or want something that you can't obtain without help from a person. Course, you have to let that person know that 1.) you are there and 2.) You need their help. Now, if that person doesn't particularly believe in ghosts or chooses to not help, well, dang it, sometimes you gotta rattle some windows or levitate some cleaning products (true story) in order to get their attention. Even then, your chances are not real good...

Excellent challenge topic!


Blakkwolfe!!!! You're still here!!!

I remember your flavour of script. I hope you will join in this next challenge. You're writing is par excellente!

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I really never imagined this would be something people would argue.


How is this an argument? I think hearing about the various tools people use for the craft is extremely interesting.


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I had something I thought could work, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's too big of an idea for a short


This is what's happening with me, too...

I think I may have found a way to shorten it now though.





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I think I may have found a way to shorten it now though.


Awesome, congrats Any tips for me?
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I thought a gothic horror would be perfect for many writers on this site. Since joining all I seem to find is scripts of a violent essence, with one or two exceptions.

If SS writers really want a hard topic I think it would be this;

1)The genre is;  rom com

2) it has to have;  a happy ending

3) and, just for fun, you have to use the line, "I love you as much as my poodle".

Now that's a challenge.

Better start thinking about my horror number!!

Cheers RD


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Watching a rom com would be a far greater challenge. An ordeal even....



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Watching a rom com would be a far greater challenge. An ordeal even....

Around here not if it were a romcom between a couple both afflicted with borderline personality disorder sharing their first joint capture, torture, mutilation and horrible slow murder of a couple of sappy do-gooder Christians after being fed their poodle rotisseried over a stack of Watchtower booklets.


Sam licks his fingers.
SAM - I'll be damned.
BETH - What?
SAM - Christians also taste like chicken.
Beth carves with a bread knife another huge flap of buttock off the gagged and screaming female.
BETH - Look, Honey! I'm turning the other cheek!
Both laugh then hump like rabbits silhouetted by firelight.


Now, ain't that some romantic comedy?  




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True. It would actually be funnier than a rom-com.



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If someone thinks writing was better in the days before electricity, then by all means, write by candle.


To be fair, Shakespeare wrote in the days before electricity, and it didn't seem to do him any harm...


Guess who's back? Back again?
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Yes, Jonny, and I mentioned that in my post previous to that. To be fair.


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Yes, Jonny, and I mentioned that in my post previous to that. To be fair.



Maybe he is around today, Kevin. Maybe he's you.  

You know, I've read a lot of posts as a precursor to this one discussing "too big" and "length" that overstretches 10-12 pages.

I have the same problem. I was ok. I had somewhat of a story and within the measured gap; however, I kept writing. Just working along. Here and there and everywhere and I wound up with 16 pages.

Then I used Montage. Then I stripped dialogue even more and my dialogue wasn't bad in the first place. I will keep working this and I hope I have enough time to submit for this challenge. I don't want to enter crap. At least to me, it can't be crap.

I'm worlds away from the feature I'm working on, but it's good in many ways.

If any of you are having difficulties, just know...

I'm really taxed. Literally. You'll figure it out.  

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Romance is always an element of Gothic Horror.


I have peculiar romance in mine. It's an element I have worked hard on.
An element I've personally experienced in my own life.

I hope to qualify.

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"The gothic builds up the protagonist until he achieves what he's after, and then details the terrible consequences of achieving it".
Get what you want and regret it.
Law of unintended consequences.
What the protag wants is actually bad. (Child abductor captures a kid! Horayyy! Oh... wait... ) ...



Thank you, Rav.  

I've really been working hard and I didn't know "by teaching" that this was an element, but somehow, it worked its way into my script.

Most definitely I have a protagonist whose lust is unrequited by a companion who only uses him to have "a position in society". "The Using" is returned however. Since the Usee uses the User for "his reward"-- the said position in society. It's a Merry-go-round effect.

Although I have a story, I'm trying to boil it down more. Create more snaps on the page. it works now, but what will become of it tomorrow?

I know from experience how I can get myself into a tangle.

Thank you again R. You contribute so much. You deserve one honkin reward. But alas, The Creator always turns and says, "What reward?... That's what you were supposed to be doing". ...

Still, we need someone to lift up their heads. Notice that spark and live.

If we can manage that, then maybe we can live and then rest simultaneously.

Don't know how to do that yet. Still working it out.

G-d bless you R.

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Mine has been submitted.

Feedback from my girlfriend: Not my best


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Sandra, I think there are a lot of possible elements for Gothic horror, but we're also limited by the fact that we're dealing with shorts here. So I think at some point it comes down to simply we know Gothic when we see it. Romance over rational, spiritual over logical is usually the flavor. A blend of the tragic and the heroic. But to me, one word most comes to mind for Gothic: the past.

Gothic takes inspiration from the past. Past lives, past ages, past architecture. If we don't see ghosts, we feel them, because we are keenly aware of the continuous connection to our past. Old buildings, cemeteries, even old languages. The Gothic movement has always been strongest in times when most of society is looking to the future. Science, progress, and all that. In that environment, eventually, especially in times of rapid change, there is a longing for the past. As we move deeper into the technological age, this longing will get even deeper.

I think your work tends to be Gothic anyway. You love to explore the echos of the past that live in our ancient legends and archaic rituals. You could do this challenge without trying! This challenge was made for you.
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Nice job, UsualS!  

My two other OWC's I did in less than 24 hrs. This one, I've spent a lot of time thinking, but it's been a struggle. I can't quite make it work. Still a few days, though!
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Leitskev, I'm in the same boat. Not sure why but I'm having a hard time with this one.

And its not the subject at all since I love Gothic horror (or any horror).

Thank gosh I have a couple of days off work lol


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Sandra, I think there are a lot of possible elements for Gothic horror, but we're also limited by the fact that we're dealing with shorts here. So I think at some point it comes down to simply we know Gothic when we see it. Romance over rational, spiritual over logical is usually the flavor. A blend of the tragic and the heroic. But to me, one word most comes to mind for Gothic: the past.

Gothic takes inspiration from the past. Past lives, past ages, past architecture. If we don't see ghosts, we feel them, because we are keenly aware of the continuous connection to our past. Old buildings, cemeteries, even old languages. The Gothic movement has always been strongest in times when most of society is looking to the future. Science, progress, and all that. In that environment, eventually, especially in times of rapid change, there is a longing for the past. As we move deeper into the technological age, this longing will get even deeper.

I think your work tends to be Gothic anyway. You love to explore the echos of the past that live in our ancient legends and archaic rituals. You could do this challenge without trying! This challenge was made for you.


Kevin, if that's the case, then it's a good thing I'm trying.  

It's a very deep feeling within that "something" exists within physical matter that is created, a kind of spiritual imprint. When I pick up something that someone once owned, if they are dead or even if they just gave it away, they owned it and had it for a reason. Like you said once in one of your posts about asking questions and you gave the menu example. I loved that because it's so true.

I was thinking of you when writing this one and something came up. I'm giving myself away, but I just couldn't help myself. I like to have fun.  

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I tried to map this story out with the elements I wanted, couldn't do it, so I just started writing. The problem with doing that is that since it's like starting a journey where you don't know the destination, you have no idea how long it will take to get there. Which means you don't know if you can get it done in 12 pages.

I know what your saying about places and objects that have a history. There's a house up the street from me that was built in 1688, and is largely unchanged. It's amazing to think of the people that built it and what their world looked like. The walls are wood, but brick reinforced inside because Indian raids were a frequent worry. The man who built it had lost 2 brothers to such attacks the year before. It's cool to try to imagine their world.
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I tried to map this story out with the elements I wanted, couldn't do it, so I just started writing. The problem with doing that is that since it's like starting a journey where you don't know the destination, you have no idea how long it will take to get there. Which means you don't know if you can get it done in 12 pages.



I'm so often in that boat. I don't want to be, but that's how my mind works.

Right now it's this:

CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT! And I've got it back to 12 pages.  

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Sandra, I think there are a lot of possible elements for Gothic horror, but we're also limited by the fact that we're dealing with shorts here. So I think at some point it comes down to simply we know Gothic when we see it. Romance over rational, spiritual over logical is usually the flavor. A blend of the tragic and the heroic. But to me, one word most comes to mind for Gothic: the past.

Gothic takes inspiration from the past. Past lives, past ages, past architecture. If we don't see ghosts, we feel them, because we are keenly aware of the continuous connection to our past. Old buildings, cemeteries, even old languages. The Gothic movement has always been strongest in times when most of society is looking to the future. Science, progress, and all that. In that environment, eventually, especially in times of rapid change, there is a longing for the past. As we move deeper into the technological age, this longing will get even deeper.

I think your work tends to be Gothic anyway. You love to explore the echos of the past that live in our ancient legends and archaic rituals. You could do this challenge without trying! This challenge was made for you.


Who are you?

Seriously, Kevin.

Your first script still resounds with me.

You are a brilliant mind that I am fortunate to enjoy.

I call, "Kevin!" and he's also my daughter's fiance, and...

He's you,ready to work and explore.

He helps me every moment. He reaches things down from the high shelves because he's close to seven feet tall and that's not a metaphor, but really: He's tall.

When I spotted you, Kevin, on Simply, I saw you as tall--

An individual with a "past". One that ran several blocks in his time. One that chattered and  then listened in quiet abandon.

I saw you as "The Second" described:

The Surface is home to the mindless...

Go Deep.

He resounds with me too.

EXT. SIMPLY CASTLE - NIGHT

Skeleton keys fly in the wind like leaves.

KEVIN and SANDRA, ageless, watch.

Kevin costumed as a Vamp and Sandra costumed as a Witch.
They seem puzzled by it all. The keys. Or the coffee. Or the Mix Master dude at the bar.

INT. BAR

A freakin' high one. Impossible to reach unless you're a pole vaulter or something. SUPER MAN BAR HOPPER, mighty suited JUMPS. All the way to:

BACK AT THE CASTLE

Super Man Bar Hopper splats in front of Kevin and Sandra. They look, but seem indifferent. The keys are more fascinating. Super's not impressed. He worked so hard to get here.

Kevin (V.O.)
Someday I'll grab one.

Sandra (V.O.)
And if I take away The Lock? ...
What good will it be?

Kevin (V.O.)
It will be good enough.

Now Super seems intrigued too. He squints up at the whirling keys.

EXT. CASTLE - NIGHT (Darker Than Dark)

The keys keep their whirl now with leaves in the wind, joining them.

INT. GOTHIC CASTLE - LATER

A staircase so steep and twisted it looks like Sandra's mind. Never mind, at least a key made it through the chimney. Here it comes. Dancing down the stairs.

SANDRA
Where's Super?

KEVIN
Bad news. He choked on a key.

SANDRA
Ah. I hate it when that happens.
Choking, burning. What's that other one?

KEVIN
The Crank.

Sandra has the look of "oh yeah forgot about that one".

KEVIN
Cranking that shaft for food. Blimey I starved to death
one year from overwork.

Sandra puts a sympathy hand on his shoulder. They both look down.

Kevin catches THE KEY. He SNAPS IT UP! Clenches his fist.

Sandra kisses his closed fist.

SANDRA
It's lucky!
Now you have it...

KEVIN
Now I let it go...

Kevin lets it fly.

Some private joke. They laugh.

The Key flies somewhere, anywhere...

Both Sandra and Kevin watch it go. They watch it fly, away...

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Quoted from Sandra Elstree.
Thank you, Ray.  
G-d bless you R.

You're welcome, our beautiful Sandra.
And God bless you as well.



To the collective whole having difficulty with this challenge, myself included:
I think this may be difficult to craft because the heart of Gothic Horror isn't blood and guts and torture and madmen and murdering ghosts and whatnot.

Gothic Horror is about a tragedy.
Something that could have been beautiful, but wasn't, and now is lost forever which is both good and bad but mostly just sad.
A love story gone awry.
A tragedy.



To me, it will be most interesting to see not only how many writers crafted a story that technically fit the challenge and how many instead wrote variations of "plain old spook-N-splatter horror - in a mansion!", but also how well we judge these stories based upon adherence to the criteria.

Will we like a fair story that fits the criteria and choose that to move forward to iscript.
Or will we just pick the story we like the most, irregardless of criteria, to move forward?



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....mine sort of strayed into erotica. Not trying to be funny here. I'm serious.

Eh... it happens.  




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The better story should be chosen IMHO unless it strays too far from the challenge given.

I want to know what rating we should go for....mine sort of strayed into erotica. Not trying to be funny here. I'm serious.


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The better story should be chosen IMHO unless it strays too far from the challenge given.

I want to know what rating we should go for....mine sort of strayed into erotica. Not trying to be funny here. I'm serious.


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The better story should be chosen IMHO unless it strays too far from the challenge given.

I want to know what rating we should go for....mine sort of strayed into erotica. Not trying to be funny here. I'm serious.


Mine did too though it wasn't explicit.

I'm not sure what to do. To cut it or what? I might have to just leave it and move on as always. I do so much re-writing as I write, I wind up spent.

I think some of my projects will just have to die. I think I'll put them all-- all together...

In a graveyard and bury them. I'm getting to the point where that's what I want to do. I'm even game for having ritual fires and burning notebooks. Scads of fun. Who needs them?

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Quoted from Sandra Elstree.
I think some of my projects will just have to die. I think I'll put them all-- all together...

In a graveyard and bury them. I'm getting to the point where that's what I want to do. I'm even game for having ritual fires and burning notebooks. Scads of fun. Who needs them?

Fantastic.
Now, if you could just make the scripts children or lovers of the deacon at the oppressively ominous setting of a Victorian church graveyard then you've got your alternate entry.  




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Quoted from RayW

To the collective whole having difficulty with this challenge, myself included:
I think this may be difficult to craft because the heart of Gothic Horror isn't blood and guts and torture and madmen and murdering ghosts and whatnot.

Gothic Horror is about a tragedy.
Something that could have been beautiful, but wasn't, and now is lost forever which is both good and bad but mostly just sad.
A love story gone awry.
A tragedy.



Thanks heaps!! I FINALLY know what to write thanks to that
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As hard as it is, I suppose you just really need to believe in what you are trying to write.

I read mine a few hours ago and found it hilarious. Unintentionally funny of course. I was actually laughing out loud. It was so silly, so inept, lame, unoriginal, etc. It was just plain ridiculous.

So I've worked on it a little, and now I feel a little more comfortable with it. It's still questionable if people will like it, but I think it meets the terms. Ultimately, just keep going. And relax a little, write what you really want, have a drink, smoke a cigarette, have a cup of tea - relaxation helps loads

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I wrote a first draft of something but it's so bad that I'm not really compelled to fix it up.  I have another idea I'm toying with that I'll try if I have the time in the next two days.  

Good luck to everyone who's gonna enter.  Those iScripts are mighty cool.

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Ahhg, just go for it Greg. Do it!!

I havent written a script since a year ago today, I've spent the last year re-writing and editing new and ancient material, so I'm well out the game haha.

This does seem like a good, fun challenge and it's open as hell. I felt limited by it's unlimitness haha. But it feels good to write again, even if it results in me being humiliated it's refreshing to write something new!

Plus, I'm eager to read the scripts that are pretty quick to read, judge it by the comments left, and admire how the hype builds.




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Quoted from greg
I wrote a first draft of something but it's so bad that I'm not really compelled to fix it up.

Grindhouse is quite in vogue these days.
Maybe you could push it over the top in that direction.
You'll possibly win on good laughs alone.

(Just finished watching Hobo With a Shotgun, BTW).
I should probably quit dickin' around and actually write mine.
Idiot me.



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Ray, I would just to echo Sandra's comments and thank you for all the tips, links etc that you have provided They have been very useful.

You clearly know a lot on this topic, I don't. Very much a case of the pupil listening to teacher.

Oh, and I'm looking forward to reading about your massing armies, on the assumption you're still going large. But does it include the boiled poodle!

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I finished mine yesterday but it will be heavily changed today. Ryan was kind enought to read it and make some great suggestions!

It isn't Gothic horror in th epurest sense, but has elements. I haven't got time to do anything new and 100% GH so hopefully it'll be ok.

Thanks also to Cornie for checking out the script too.

Looking forward to reading them all!!!



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Just finished my first draft. Came in at just over 12 pages and I love it! Can't really say it's gothic horror but the tone is about right. I'm going to polish it up a bit, get it to the right page count and submit.


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finished mine but my descriptors feel rushed (i hate it when that happens). oh well, i'll try to jazz it up a little tonight.

regardless, i hated the genre when it was first announced. after coming up with an idea however, i kind of like it. i find i write much better stories when i have constraints. now my writing may not be any better (due to the time restraints) but thank god for rewrites.


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Hey guys,
I'm new on this site and I've got trouble writing my script. I've never written anything but it says "it's open to everybody" + english is not my maternal language. Do you have some advise for me? I wrote something but I don't know if I will submit it...I feel like it's really bad.
I've got only tomorrow nights to make some changes. Well It's late I'm going to bed, I hope a good night sleep with help me!
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Hey there. Glad you could join. Best thing might be for you to go to the older OWC thread and read some scripts, especially the ones that received warm reviews. Usually those give you a good idea of format and proper writing. If you have a specific question, post it here, someone will help.

Good luck!
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I'm almost done mine. I had high hopes for creating a "contender", but failed at doing so. Hopefully I have a story that a few will enjoy. I always learn something, every time I do an OWC, so worth entering even when my work did not go as well as planned.
Some day!
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Hey guys,
I'm new on this site and I've got trouble writing my script. I've never written anything but it says "it's open to everybody" + english is not my maternal language. Do you have some advise for me? I wrote something but I don't know if I will submit it...I feel like it's really bad.
I've got only tomorrow nights to make some changes. Well It's late I'm going to bed, I hope a good night sleep with help me!


What is your maternal language? Why not post it in that language? Hey, we're multinational aren't we?!  

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I'm out. Got an editing session tomorrow night for a Halloween short I did with my daughter. I had a story plotted, but failed to come up with a good title and I can't start typing without that. Good luck everyone. I'll read as many as I can.  


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I'm pretty sure I'm sitting this one out to.  I came up with a couple of ideas but neither inspired me to finish the script.  It's getting late and I don't think I'll have the time to write one now.  I hate missing October OWCs too! So good luck to those that did enter.  
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I'm out. Got an editing session tomorrow night for a Halloween short I did with my daughter. I had a story plotted, but failed to come up with a good title and I can't start typing without that. Good luck everyone. I'll read as many as I can.  


Are you serious, Pia? You jester you.   Doesn't it usually work the other way around? A lot of times I find my title later. I've noticed that's a trend lately.

I can't imagine Pia not entering a Halloween OWC. That would be just...

You're scaring me!!!! It's 2011 for crying out loud!!! We need to wake this world up! Shake things up! Pia! No!!!!!!!

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I'm pretty sure I'm sitting this one out to.  I came up with a couple of ideas but neither inspired me to finish the script.  It's getting late and I don't think I'll have the time to write one now.  I hate missing October OWCs too! So good luck to those that did enter.  


My Lord G-d Almighty. Please save me if this is truly happening!

Sandra

PS... why do I keep adding my name at the end? Can any statisticians find out how much time I waste by this? In a day? In a year?

Sandra

Crap! I did it again.

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Yay, managed to get my 16 page opus down to 11.
I had no idea what to write, so started in the middle and worked outward.
Seemed to work ok - we'll see!
As for genre, did a little research, got bored (you ever have a day when you can't even be bothered to read?), I went for a Hammer house of Horror style story with more heaving bosoms.


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Quoted from darrentomalin

As for genre, did a little research, got bored (you ever have a day when you can't even be bothered to read?),


No. I'm stressed all of the time. I have this "weird condition". It stems from my right sinus and it causes auto-immune issues. I'm fucked up with it!

Thing is, I use writing as a means to cope and share the human condition. I have never been one to be bored in my life. Rather, I always feel short of time. Like I'm always running out of it and I wish I could help people more.

DJ, reading is so very important. You can't learn anything if you don't read.

I hope you find the things that spark your interest. In the meantime, listen to lots of good music!

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oh my, I read all the time, sometimes I get "readed out" as if I can't absorb any more words!
I am never bored in general - I have so many things I like to do and listening to good music is one of my favourites so good suggestion!
The "random" button on tv-tropes or wikipedia is good for five minutes too!


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Well, I did it. Just hit "send". I don't know if it's a contender or not, it's a pretty loose interpretation of the theme, but I love it. Hope you guys do too.


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Quiou

Hey there. Glad you could join. Best thing might be for you to go to the older OWC thread and read some scripts, especially the ones that received warm reviews. Usually those give you a good idea of format and proper writing. If you have a specific question, post it here, someone will help.

Good luck!
Kevin



Thank you for your answer. I will Try to read some of them before tonight. For the format I used CELTX. I'm a french native so my english is not perfect. I will send my "script" ( if you can call this a script) tonight.
An other question (it sounds a little bit stupid) what is "edt" when you say 11:59 edt?  (eastern time?)?
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Eastern Daylight-Savings Time (I think) as opposed to est which is Eastern Standard Time.

I'm pretty sure it just based on the server clock which you can see at the top of the page.
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Well, I'm in. Ready to start reading shorts!
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Hi everybody,

Looking forward to reading all your scripts, let's hope it's fun.

The gothic horror is new to me so will be interesting to read all the different takes on it.

All the best.


My scripts  HERE

The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville
Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final
Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards.  Third - Honolulu
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Sorry, guys - I'm out too I finally got an idea, but I'm just not familiar enough with the genre to get a feel for writing this thing. Plus I've got some editing to finish that I was meant to send over yesterday

Good luck guys! I'll try to read them all, but it'll probably be pretty tough - I'm guessing I'll read the first one and realize I wasn't as far off the genre as I thought:p
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I have to say I am having a tough time with this, why? I have no clue. I will likely turn in something, but what it is, will be shakey at best.


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For all of you struggling with the theme...don't worry about it.

My script is genre and theme perfect and is absolutey superb, so it will make up for all your woeful attempts.

I'm the ultimate team player.

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LOL Rick!  

I have a feeling there's going to be a record number of entries. I won't have the time to read them all so I decided instead of trying to read ALL, I will read fewer, but offer better more helpful comments to those I do read.

Since I will have to pick and chose and I imagine so will most others, I would suggest to all who submit something to pay attention to the log lines.

Good luck everyone!  


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Well its not the Theme thats the problem, I love those Hammer films and Gothic horror.
I dont know what the heck the problem is actually, brain fart? lol


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Well its not the Theme thats the problem, I love those Hammer films and Gothic horror.
I dont know what the heck the problem is actually, brain fart? lol


You can only do your best. I think it's pretty hard coming up with a completed script in just a week, even if it's just a short.

I really enjoyed Wisp in the Feb one, so hopefully you'll get one in.
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You can only do your best. I think it's pretty hard coming up with a completed script in just a week, even if it's just a short.

I really enjoyed Wisp in the Feb one, so hopefully you'll get one in.


Thanks so much for the complement!

Wisp was my first short, fond memories for sure.

I'll get something in and I'm sure yours will be great as well.


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Don't worry abpout editing mistakes, like spelling or format, Hugh. Everyone knows you don't have much time. Just entertain us!
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


You can only do your best. I think it's pretty hard coming up with a completed script in just a week, even if it's just a short.

I really enjoyed Wisp in the Feb one, so hopefully you'll get one in.


It is really hard and I can only imagine it gets harder because one always wants to exceed in their work.

I want to second Pia's words regarding loglines. If I see loglines that look really weak to me or there are bad errors, then I'm hesitant. I really do like to try and read all of the scripts, but the logline does influence me.

Tonight, it will be my pleasure to submit my script before the close of the challenge. Then, I'm going to chill a bit. I have an ESL workshop tomorrow. That's teaching English as a second language so I need to be on the ball. Whatever methods I learn, I like to try and incorporate them as I cross over with Hebrew, German and whatever comes along.

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Good luck to all,

Now I'm going through mine with sober eyes it's prooving to be a bit of a slog at best.  I hope to meet the deadline but more importantly have something of decent quality to send in.

So much for my bravado the other night!



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Don't worry abpout editing mistakes, like spelling or format, Hugh. Everyone knows you don't have much time. Just entertain us!


Leitskev, I hear that my friend. I just ran out of time and sent it in. I only hope some will find it entertaining lol.
Cant wait to read.


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Nuts. If the logline is a determining factor my entry could well be undone. I rushed with the logline, wasn't even expecting to need one since this is my first sub.

If you see my short has no replies someone have mercy on this poor newbie! I'll make sure to read as many as I can.


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There is just under 4 hours left, right?



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There is just under 4 hours left, right?


Yeah I think so Scoob.


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Cool, thanks Hugh.

Might just have enough time to write a logline, give it a title and perhaps more importantly, give it an ending!




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Nuts. If the logline is a determining factor my entry could well be undone. I rushed with the logline, wasn't even expecting to need one since this is my first sub.

If you see my short has no replies someone have mercy on this poor newbie! I'll make sure to read as many as I can.


No worries, I usually do open to the first page anyway and give it a glance. I can tell if someone is new and so I will often critique anyway to give some help.

I'm new myself. Well, kinduv. I like to pretend. So don't worry. What you do now and what you do later will be entirely different. Have fun. That's the most important part.  

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I'm dying to read the submissions - only a few hours left!
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I'm in. Couldn't stand to sit by like the last OWC. I won't read them all, but I'll try to read those by contributing members. And those who come across mine.

I will go easy on people bending the parameters of this one, as I feel I've done the same. This genre was far more obscure to me than I thought after research.

Cheers, til tomorrow. I shall read your scripts with a pint. So forgive me in advance for my comments.

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I'm in. Couldn't stand to sit by like the last OWC. I won't read them all, but I'll try to read those by contributing members. And those who come across mine.

I will go easy on people bending the parameters of this one, as I feel I've done the same. This genre was far more obscure to me than I thought after research.

Cheers, til tomorrow. I shall read your scripts with a pint. So forgive me in advance for my comments.

James


Only a pint?   Seriously, I have this feeling about what gothic is. After some of the research and comments by some members here and my own internal feelings, I just get this feeling. I'm not going to say anymore right now, but yes, I will be really interested to see how people interpreted it.

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The tough part about this challenge, as someone pointed out earlier, maybe James, was that you're combining Gothic with what is almost supposed to be a happy or at least light hearted ending. And I say almost, because it doesn't have to be light hearted, but the ghost has to be good and misunderstood, which sends things in that direction.

But that also made it a good..."challenge". I seriously doubt anyone had something like this sitting around.

logline: every time I do an OWC, I totally forget about the logline until I am submitting. Then I have to bang one together.

ReneC: you'll get plenty of comments. I would think usually at least 10 by the end of the week. And if you've been commenting on others, you'll get more after the reveal. Don't feel bad if you get some tough reviews...everyone does!
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Jeez,

This was like mixing Kool-Aid with beer. Tough OWC I have to admit.

Just put mine in and to be honest, I have no idea of how it's going to be recieved. Most of the time, I do...

Not this one.

Crazy OWC Don.

Well done!

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I didn't know squat about gothic ghost horror - I still don't know much  - but I gave this one a go. It's my first OWC submission since February '08, so that's something. I'm really going to try to read every script, and comment on most of them.

Is Don flagging scripts written by writers who are reading and reviewing other OWC scripts? I saw that mentioned somewhere but didn't see an answer.

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Quoted from Pete B. Lane
I didn't know squat about gothic ghost horror - I still don't know much  - but I gave this one a go. It's my first OWC submission since February '08, so that's something. I'm really going to try to read every script, and comment on most of them.

Is Don flagging scripts written by writers who are reading and reviewing other OWC scripts? I saw that mentioned somewhere but didn't see an answer.

~Pete


No way. It can't be that long, Pete. I think you were on in 2009 weren't you? Wasn't that the year I was cruising on The Norwegian Jade and freakin' learned all about "real waves"?  

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It'll come down to the wire for me.  I'm still trying to come up with a logline.  I had a really good one at the gym...but forgot it =\


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Well, I have submitted mine so I'm in.
This really was a pretty intense challenge, and as has been said, it will be interesting to see how everyone has interpreted the theme and put their spin on it.

I'm not too confident about what I've done in all honesty, bit of a mad rush towards the end in terms of trying to put this together in some kind of cohesive manner, but I am really looking forward to reading other people's scripts.

Best of luck to everyone!



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Quoted from Sandra Elstree.
...Wasn't that the year I was cruising on The Norwegian Jade and freakin' learned all about "real waves"?


I have no fu**ing clue what you're talking about. I'm okay with that though.

But no, the Feb. '08 OWC was my first and last, until now. I did post another script, Mused, that was conceived for an OWC, but I didn't complete it in time to submit.

My first OWC entry was fairly well-received, so I'm hoping people will enjoy this one.

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Hey Pete...

That's Sandra.

She rides her own waves for sure. Super cool poster here as well.

Glad to see you back at the madness my friend.

I hope your OWC does well.

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I submitted mine. I don't think it's good but well... It's almost 5:00am, I'm going to bed.
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Thanks Shawn. I don't post much, but I am familiar with Sandra - and her writing to some extent.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to guess which script is hers.

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Work and three birthdays this week kept me from writing a OWC this time,  >BUT I can't wait to read all the scripts.

Good luck everybody.

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You're bluffing Cindy...

I hope.

Please say you put one in.

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Quoted from Reef Dreamer
Ray, I would just to echo Sandra's comments and thank you for all the tips, links etc that you have provided They have been very useful.

You clearly know a lot on this topic, I don't. Very much a case of the pupil listening to teacher.

Oh, and I'm looking forward to reading about your massing armies, on the assumption you're still going large. But does it include the boiled poodle!

Cheers


Ah, thanks a lot, man!
That's very nice of you to say.
Nah, I didn't know sh!t until I started doing research, which some of the folks who've been around here for the last year watching me grow can attest that I'm something of a freak about.
Guilty. Hi.

No. No massing armies, unfortunately.
I really wanted to do one as such and would have but I just couldn't reconcile post 1700s with anything containing mythic/epic anything that fit into "gothic horror" proper.
(I do actually try to follow the guidelines, to varying degrees of success).

Are there any mythic heros from the last few centuries?
Anything comparable to Greek/Roman gods?
Viking/Norse mythology?
LoTR?
Anything?

And I couldn't shoe horn in a poodle, either.
Don really handicapped me with the single entry this go round.  



Anatomy of a Tragedy as it Unfolds:

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On a side note, Jeff, you could always hand over your idea to me...I'm still stressing that I don't have a good one!! I had something I thought could work, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's too big of an idea for a short


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Awesome, congrats Any tips for me?


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Thanks heaps!! I FINALLY know what to write thanks to that


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Sorry, guys - I'm out too I finally got an idea, but I'm just not familiar enough with the genre to get a feel for writing this thing... I'm guessing I'll read the first one and realize I wasn't as far off the genre as I thought:p

You know what the b!tch of it is going to be, right?
Whatever you thought was a half-baked idea actually was fairly viable.
"LOL... thaaaaaat's nice. Now shaddap, Ray".






Quoted from leitskev
logline: every time I do an OWC, I totally forget about the logline until I am submitting. Then I have to bang one together.

High five!
Guilty as Hades for that each and every [expletive] time.
Eff me if I can ever to plan ahead for that one thing.
Thhp! Whatever.


I'll avert my eyes at ya'll's loggies and just concentrate on your fundamental stories; lily gilding will be discounted.
Director will change it.
Producer won't have budget for all of it.
Settings will negate them.
Actors are going to bugger them.
Editors will use the best take and Fraken-ADR the dialog.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

GL, everyone!




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It'll come down to the wire for me.  I'm still trying to come up with a logline.  I had a really good one at the gym...but forgot it =\


I was really swarmed this week, but I really tried to get into the groove of things. In the end, I thought my logline smelled like rotting apples, so I tried again. And again. Finally I realized that I hated my own script and had no idea what I just wrote. Heck of a time coming up with a logline. If folks comment and hate it, I'll change it after the reveal, although what to is another story.

If I'm in here I'm in my the hairs of my chinny chin chin.

Washed out from the MP Undead challenge I think. (Yes, I'm in there somewheres) - I'm also in a SF vibe right now and have to get back to it.


"I know you want to work for Mo Fuzz. And Mo Fuzz wants you to. But first, I'm going to need to you do something for me... on spec." - Mo Fuzz, Tapeheads, 1988
my scripts on ss : http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1095531482/s-45/#num48
The Art!http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-knowyou/m-1190561532/s-105/#num106
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I will read each entry as I do when I enter an OWC.

My reviews aren't too detailed - just a few thoughts and suggestions if needed.



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Just got in to St. Louis.  Staying with my sister's family for a few nights.  Drove 1,550 miles the last 3 days.  Didn't get to submit a script...BUT...I did turn my OWC idea into a feature and will be writing it ASAP.  It will be much better as a feature anyway, as it would be crammed way too tight in 12 pages.

I'll be reading and commenting all I can, but my schedule isn't as open as usual.
Best of luck to everyone!!!
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Good on ya bro!   Get on skype now if u can



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Now your talking, Jeff. Time for a feature. Have a safe trip.
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I'm on my sis's computer...no Skype.  Won't have my computer up until after the 23rd.  My moving truck doesn't arrive until then.

You guys are gonna dig this new feature idea I've got.  Actually, I may have to got ehKev route and tghrow up 2 new features in 3 months.
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Just write, baby, write. Fix em up later. Crank em out!
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I'm on my sis's computer...


Make sure to delete cookies after you watch your transvestite porn.

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