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Story to take place in July 2013.
Script length - 9-12 pages (the title page does not count as a page).
Budget - Unlimited, but…
No firearms of any kind, no projectile weaponry, no weapons of mass destruction, no explosions, no large scale destruction of any kind, including natural disasters. No vehicle stunts or crashes.
The locale (including geography, climate, etc) must be front and center in your script. The majority of the story must take place outside. If unfamiliar with the Pacific Northwest, please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest, or any other research you may want to do.
Good luck to all and remember that although this is a challenge, there are no winners and losers, as the reality is that all who take place are winners for taking part.
Good luck to all. Let's keep the tradition of getting one of these OWCs produced on!
Despite the fact that the mpaa link is not working, this looks like it has some potential.
I like the genres.
Gabe
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It somehow feels constricting even with the semi-open theme to me. Luckily I've got an idea though. The challenge is definitely unique, reading the entries is gonna be a blast.
After moving to Seattle, little Markie Lyons visits his favorite screenwriting website and miraculously discovers a new board moderator, altering life as we know it forever.
After moving to Seattle, little Markie Lyons visits his favorite screenwriting website and miraculously discovers a new board moderator, altering life as we know it forever.
Shocking, I know.
Glad a few are OK with this so far. Restrictions are few but parameters may be tight.
The setting of the Pacific Northwest has to be important and be present, especially since most of the script will be set outside.
Pretend a production company located in the Pacific Northwest contacted SS and presented this challenge, saying the film will be shot on location in the Pacific Northwest.
You may want to look into exactly what the Pacific Northwest is and what features makes it unique. Many think of it as Washington and Oregon, but upper California and even British Columbia are included. Hell, I think some say Idaho is included, but I'm not sure why exactly.
The setting of the Pacific Northwest has to be important and be present, especially since most of the script will be set outside.
Pretend a production company located in the Pacific Northwest contacted SS and presented this challenge, saying the film will be shot on location in the Pacific Northwest.
You may want to look into exactly what the Pacific Northwest is and what features makes it unique. Many think of it as Washington and Oregon, but upper California and even British Columbia are included. Hell, I think some say Idaho is included, but I'm not sure why exactly.
I remember the millions of pine trees and redwoods we drove through! I also recall gettiting shitfaced at Lone Eagle reservation casino in Washington, lol. We also ran out of petrol in the snow near Easton, east of Seattle.
Another silly question, can this be set on the coast, or at the sea?
There no silly questions.
As long as it's set in the Pacific Northwest, it can be anywhere...land, sea, mountains, valleys, forests, cities, or in "The Cabin", as long as the locale comes into play.
Don't know why I immediate think of Twilight when this area of the world is mentioned - god there must be more to it than that
Actually I have supported, in a very very loose sense, the Seattle Seahawks since I was 16, maybe a time for me to visit. So if the kid is wearing a Seahawks shirt, that's mine.
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Another silly question: Although set in the Pacific Northwest, can the setting there be fictional? Like a fictional town or mountain?
Some of my scripts:
Bounty (TV Pilot) -- Top 1% of discoverable screenplays on Coverfly I'll Be Seeing You (short) - OWC winner The Gambler (short) - OWC winner Skip (short) - filmed Country Road 12 (short) - filmed The Family Man (short) - filmed The Journeyers (feature) - optioned
Keeping in the spirit of Bert's questions: If there's a massive shift in the tectonic plates, and the Pacific Northwest is moved to Antarctica, does that still count as the Pacific Northwest?
Seriously though, this is pretty good. I just hope there aren't a lot of scripts set at the same location.
Another silly question: Although set in the Pacific Northwest, can the setting there be fictional? Like a fictional town or mountain?
That's an interesting question, Hawk. I think the best answer is this - if it's set in the Pacific Northwest and that is front and center in your script, then that's fine. As long as you establish that your locale is "real" (although very possibly made up), you're cool.
Would acid vomit be considered a form of projectile weaponry?
Give it a week before talking about, "No silly questions."
That's a good one, Bert. I think in theory, that would be a form of projectile weaponry, but I'll go out on a limb here and say that based on what I was thinking when writing these parameters, projectile vomit would be allowed, because it's "natural".
The "no silly questions" was me being "Mr. Nice Guy Dreamscale Moderator", vs. the "Mr. A-Hole Dreamscale".
If anyone has questions, whether or not they think they may be silly, throw them out. You can also PM or E-Mail me, if you don't want your question public.
Keeping in the spirit of Bert's questions: If there's a massive shift in the tectonic plates, and the Pacific Northwest is moved to Antarctica, does that still count as the Pacific Northwest?
Seriously though, this is pretty good. I just hope there aren't a lot of scripts set at the same location.Jordan
Good to see Bert's "questions" rubbing off on others. Thank you, Bert! >
Jordan, serious or not, I'll answer. The script must take place in July 2013, and not include any natural disasters, so I'd say a massive shift in tectonic plates will be out.
I'm assuming the location of the scripts will be pretty well rounded. The Pacific Northwest is a very large area with lots of different options in geography and the like.
I'm very glad that most seem t o like this or at least not hate it.
I'm also glad Bert jumped in with some very important questions.
I want to make a comment on the location - the Pacific Northwest. There is alot to offer here. Very, very beautiful and majestic. Mountains, deep forests, beautiful coastlines, waterways, unique wildlife, distinct weather patterns, etc.
As noted earlier, you are allowed to make up a city, town, or area, as long as you place it in the Pacific Northwest, but why would you need to? I'd recommend using real locations to create a sense of "reality" within your script.
Think about the TV shows "Chopped", "Iron Chef", etc. - on those shows, contestants are given beautiful food items to use to create beautiful culinary dishes - here, you've been given a beautiful location to use as a backdrop to your script. Why not utilize it to the fullest?
Remember, if you have a question, throw it out (other than Bert and Jordan ) - others may be wondering about the same thing.
I'm lucky and live in the pacific northwest, that in and of itself got me kind of excited, teriffic geography for a story, there are lots you can do with this location, more so than any other part of north america. I just need to figure out some kind of discovery that would alter mankind. Bigfoot is a good fall out for this location if nothing else comes to mind
Damn. This is bringing back members. lol. Way to go Jeff.
Gabe
Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages. https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-comedy/m-1624410571/
I'm lucky and live in the pacific northwest, that in and of itself got me kind of excited, teriffic geography for a story, there are lots you can do with this location, more so than any other part of north america. I just need to figure out some kind of discovery that would alter mankind. Bigfoot is a good fall out for this location if nothing else comes to mind
Glad to see you around, Jordan.
Yes, Sasquatch is definitely a legendary creature believed to roam the Pacific Northwest.
And you've got lots of different Native American culture as well.
This is my stumbling block. I have an idea for an 'important' to mankind matter, but It doesn't have a story. Or a story, but less of a change to mankind, more like a few people get arrested
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"Waz up, bitches?", but anything close to that will be fine.
Your 2nd question - remember, the theme states "...a miraculous discovery that could alter mankind as we know it". So, if you take those words to heart, exactly as written, "important to mankind" could actually alter mankind as we know it.
The point being, "could" alter mankind, not necessarily altering it as the discovery is made.
The 'mankind' thing has got me snagged too. My take on the rules were that it '*could* alter mankind as we know it...' Which is a little more open to interpretation. I could be wrong...
I was lucky enough to take a road-trip up that way a few years ago. I remember it was foggy. Very foggy -- and I got yelled at for pumping my own gas...
Bill, have you tried 'wazzup'..?
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The 'mankind' thing has got me snagged too. My take on the rules were that it '*could* alter mankind as we know it...' Which is a little more open to interpretation. I could be wrong...
You are definitely correct, Steve.
For instance, finding a dead raccoon most likely would not possibly alter much of anything, but finding Godzilla's orphan child very easily could alter mankind.
Bro, thought I'd make public the queries I made to u on Skype...lol
I asked if time travel could be involved, and u said it has to be set in July 2013. Fair enough, but if the child finds a portal, isn't that still valid? Things could come through...
Also, I feel the word 'miraculous' should be removed from the description. That, to me, has 'positive' or 'happy' connotations that doesn't really lend itself to horror or the R rating. If the child simply makes a discovery that could alter mankind, then it becomes more open.
Am not whinging! Love this challenge! Just verifying, is all.
All right, just started making some real progress. Took me a while to get an idea... but now I think I have something good. I'm starting really dig the contest guidelines, particularly the location.
First time I actually got started on the first day. Usually I end up scrambling to finish my first draft the night of the deadline.
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...Also, I feel the word 'miraculous' should be removed from the description. That, to me, has 'positive' or 'happy' connotations that doesn't really lend itself to horror or the R rating. If the child simply makes a discovery that could alter mankind, then it becomes more open.
Hey Jeff, I felt exactly the same way as Stevie re the word 'miraculous'.
While thinking about the challenge I've been removing the adjective 'miraculous' in my head (but then I worried that ain't following the brief)...
I also thought, with 'horror' as the genre I've chosen, that something could at first appear 'miraculous' but then as things go along have a dark side and unforeseen consequence.
The 'miraculous' is a bit of a stumbling block imh but it's not a huge deal, just don't qualify it at all I reckon. Leave it at 'discovery'.
Hey Jeff, I felt exactly the same way as Stevie re the word 'miraculous'.
While thinking about the challenge I've been removing the adjective 'miraculous' in my head (but then I worried that ain't following the brief)...
I also thought, with 'horror' as the genre I've chosen, that something could at first appear 'miraculous' but then as things go along have a dark side and unforeseen consequence.
Exactly. IMO, a miraculous event can quickly turn dark, or devastating. But, using the word "devastating", means something bad - period. I don't look at miraculous as having to be good.
Hope you guys understand. As always, there will be things that aren't crystal clear and IMO, that's a good thing. Have fun with it and make it your own, based on your own interpretation.
Cool to hear the back and forth and that you peeps are working with it and thinking things through.
I think a 12 yr old child story with no guns is tough to make rated R. Not impossible, but tough, and it might lead to weird stories. I have not decided on a story yet, but I'm not going to force the R stuff into it if it doesn't fit.
Would you mind if I refer to you as BM through the remainder of the challenge? As in Board Moderator, of course.
The true challenge for me is to get BM to delete one of my posts with his new, precious, coveted delete button.
Quoted from Dreamscale
no pissers
Really? Coming from the pisstake king? Sunnova.
I had the perfect first three pages! Was about a 12 year old boy in Tacoma woods who discovers a prostitute's body. Sick bastard who killed her buried her with just her ass sticking out of the ground. It is miraculous in how her ass shines in the moonlight, and we see it.
When an unemployed Board Moderator moves to Spokane from Arizona, his exploits in the backwoods become Youtube legend.
Cast: Jeff Bush - himself Jwent - ex pat Clevelandian now local farmboy Kevin L - a cop who immerses himself elbow deep in the shitty areas of the county Ryan Lee - himself. A big fish from Miami who's looking for the perfect team of Dolphins. He doesn't find a team in Spokane, just a good ream. Stevie Mac - leader of the Beatles worshipping commune north of Spokane. Wears only denim cutoffs despite the intense snow. His harem of ex Niner cheerleaders keep him warm hourly.
Stevie Mac - leader of the Beatles worshipping commune north of Spokane. Wears only denim cutoffs despite the intense snow. His harem of ex Niner cheerleaders keep him warm hourly.
Inciting incident: turns out it's the male ex-Niner cheerleaders.
Stevie is who he is and if he loves wearing short denim shorts around men, so be it.
His love of the 49ers is scary, but remember, he's an Aussie.
Where's Bert? No more questions? Bert, in all seriousness, I'm expecting a great or at least mediocre entry from you! How's that for a challenge?????
Hope you guys are formulating some ideas. Can't wait to read them all, and you know what? Since I'm no Mr. Nice Guy Mod, my feedback will be GLOWING!!!!
This sounds fun, I've been busy lately so not much time to do any writing so will have to give this a go.
One question: As you're not supposed to put camera/movie based directions in a spec script how do you go about switching from person to person if they are split up in a Forest for example? Do you just go with CUT TO: anyway?
Just change the scene with a new Slug. Easiest, cleanest way. Other ways to do it, but if you're asking, my recommendation si keep it simple and clean.
Just finished mine, had a lot of trouble with this. Trying to keep the script outside while at the same time making good use of the location was a little hard, I don't think I used it to the best of my ability, but we'll see how it goes!
One question: As you're not supposed to put camera/movie based directions in a spec script how do you go about switching from person to person if they are split up in a Forest for example? Do you just go with CUT TO: anyway?
Although BM may not approve, I like to use mini slugs outside as well, so long as the environment is the same. If there's a substantial change in locations, a new full slug is probably warranted.
For example...
EXT. WOODS - NIGHT
JIM and AMY run through the woods. A MADMAN in a furry ski cap chases them wielding a machete. Amy trips. Jim doesn't stop. Amy screams as the madman stands above her.
JIM
hears her scream from a distance. He pauses. He shakes his head and runs off.
AMY
crawls through the leaves. The madman slices her leg. She SCREAMS. The madman picks up a rotten piece of wood. He pulls off a small, slimy creature from the back side.
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So I've pissed away my weekend and not even thought about this. Really want to take part so I either get my thinking hat on or bail and hit the beer again?
Check out my scripts...if you want to, no pressure.
These OWCs are great exercises but, you gotta be real with yourself. Can you do it? lol. The answer is yours.
Gabe
Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages. https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-comedy/m-1624410571/
I have a brilliant idea and no time to write it. 'Tis a shame, indeed.
Some of my scripts:
Bounty (TV Pilot) -- Top 1% of discoverable screenplays on Coverfly I'll Be Seeing You (short) - OWC winner The Gambler (short) - OWC winner Skip (short) - filmed Country Road 12 (short) - filmed The Family Man (short) - filmed The Journeyers (feature) - optioned
Finally got a look at the theme for this OWC. Quite a bit of eager participants in this one. Haha.
I have YET to participate in an OWC and I'm digging the parameters for this one so I'll have to give this one a crack. Regarding the "miraculous" adjective in the theme, I'm guessing it's more along the lines of "significant" or "impacting"?
In either case, I'm looking forward to the stories this challenge produces.
So, I thought I had a good idea, and now I'm doubting myself. I'm going to write it, see where it goes, and try my best? That's all I can do. If it sucks it sucks and that's it.
Not that anybody needs it, but I wish every person taking part good luck!
Curt
"No matter what you do, your job is to tell your story..."
Huh? Are you on the OWC or the ODC (One Day Challenge)???
It could be utter crap but I drew it from a "religious tome" and put a spin on it. Came out okay (in my eyes). Kinda had the whole "humanity is at stake" thing going on. Hopefully it works well enough.
The beauty of this criteria is its pretty challenging. I know I will write something but its still fermenting in my head, lol
But the Ra rating is prolly the toughest part. I have this one truly great story but will have to throw in some gratuitous violence or boontye to satisfy the requirements. I can do it with that one but then I have another story as well that is ok but has the violence.
Excellent work, everyone! It always amazes me how fast some peeps can write. Shocking to hear numerous scripts are done and submitted.
I'll be entering a script as well, but it won't count in any final tallies. I haven't even started thinking about it yet, but I'll have time this coming week.
I'm still developing the concept. I came up with a couple of zingers but they didn't fulfill all the requirements. I think I have something now though, just working out the details.
Excellent! Plans for the morning have been rained away, so I'm gonna try to bang off the idea I've had in my head all weekend. Coffee's brewin' and the blank page is open.
And yes Jeff I totally know what you mean about R-rated and I will definitely go for it.
Being a BC boy myself, I'm glad I have a chance for this one!
I don't really like how you've removed a lot of fun stuff, Jeff (just my opinion. Don't hate), but I think I see a work-around. When you say "No large scale destruction", in that case, can we see the aftermath of said destruction or you can't destroy stuff, period?
No pages yet... I've gone through two different ideas. Glad to know I'm not the only one who hasn't made very much progress.
The large scale destruction isn't really an issue for me. It makes things more challenging. Otherwise every script would be about eleven year olds finding nuclear missiles.
The large scale destruction isn't really an issue for me. It makes things more challenging. Otherwise every script would be about eleven year olds finding nuclear missiles.
It's not really an issue for me, either. The bigger issues are no guns and most of it being outdoors. But, seeing as those are out, I'm trying to get a feel for my options.
I don't really like how you've removed a lot of fun stuff, Jeff (just my opinion. Don't hate), but I think I see a work-around. When you say "No large scale destruction", in that case, can we see the aftermath of said destruction or you can't destroy stuff, period?
Sean, as you know, based on our E-Mails, I don't see or believe that I've removed any fun stuff with the very few limitations I included.
Remember, the time period here is July 2013, so you can show anything in the Pacific Northwest that is already here now, and if there's some "large scale destruction" that actually took place in the past, of course you can show it.
BUT, you can't alter reality in this area on a large scale basis.
EXAMPLE - If you're in the woods, you can show the aftermath of fires over the years or anything else of that nature, but you can't have a massive 5 mile wide crater and say this is where the Plutonians landed in 1987.
This is a reality based script.
Now, since the Pacific Northwest is as vast as it is, there could be things that no human has seen before, that could have taken place days, weeks, months, or even years earlier that someone could find.
Bottom line - don't try and change history. The child's discovery should possibly change the future!
All right. That pretty much answered exactly what I needed it to. Thank you. =)
Cool. I tried to be as exact as I could in my response to your question.
I had a PM from Dirk (DV44) earlier this morning, asking if he could have a wrecked vehicle in his script. My response was yes.
Although there are no vehicle crashes or stunts, you can have the aftermath of a wreck, but the point is that your action should not involve a/the crash.
Example - you can't just not show a crash, and act like it just took place, but there can be a wrecked vehicle that wrecked sometime in the past that is discovered.
Cool. I tried to be as exact as I could in my response to your question.
I had a PM from Dirk (DV44) earlier this morning, asking if he could have a wrecked vehicle in his script. My response was yes.
Although there are no vehicle crashes or stunts, you can have the aftermath of a wreck, but the point is that your action should not involve a/the crash.
Example - you can't just not show a crash, and act like it just took place, but there can be a wrecked vehicle that wrecked sometime in the past that is discovered.
Make sense?
No prizes for guessing Dirks script then
Mo - even if yours wasn't DQ'd I'd expect some time warp, altered reality, far out there number from you, nothing less.
Mine - meh, but at least it will be an entry. Don't have time to rip it up and start again.
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Anyone thinking of using a time portal of some type in their script and not sure if you'd be DQ'd for it, just remember that it's ok for thingies to come OUT of it into July 2013.
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Can I get a loose definition on what constitutes "large-scale" destruction?
Well, keep in mind that no natural disasters, explosions, or weapons of mass destruction are allowed, so I'm struggling to come up with a way that large scale destruction could take place.
Basically, my thinking was that I wanted writers to have the ability to work with an unlimited budget, but not have access to the things that usually come with an unlimited budget - if that makes any sense.
One more thing to remember - the child's discovery "could" alter mankind, but definitely does not have to in the script proper.
For instance, in the classic Spec script, "Chris Halverson's Cannibal", the hermit/cannibal, Elijah is killed in the end, but the last scene shows 3 more cannibals in a tree, suggesting that the reign of terror is about to start up again.
Chris, funny, cuz I was just thinking about your question and came in to post a"better" reply, and you pretty much nailed it.
My thoughts when coming up with the challenge did not include any "large scale destruction" of any kind, including "creature large scale destruction", but again, it's up to each writer to interpret the parameters in their own way.
Cool. Sounds like we have a number of scripts already submitted.
Plenty of time to go for everyone else. No need to panic. I haven't even started mine yet, but I have come up with a premise and know how I want the action to flow.
If anyone needs any support, send me a PM or E-Mail.
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I love the idea of these OWC! I have an idea for this but I only get to write on the weekends at the moment so I'll keep an eye for the next one. I look forward to reading all of your entries though. Good luck everyone.
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I love the idea of these OWC! I have an idea for this but I only get to write on the weekends at the moment so I'll keep an eye for the next one. I look forward to reading all of your entries though. Good luck everyone.
Mark, you still have time. Scripts aren't due for another 62 hours or so. Jump in...we'd love to have ya!
I love the idea of these OWC! I have an idea for this but I only get to write on the weekends at the moment so I'll keep an eye for the next one. I look forward to reading all of your entries though. Good luck everyone.
Are you trying to squeeze in some sleep? What's the matter with you? It's OWC time!
Damn. Almost everybody's in. This might look to be a great turnout. Interest is peaked to see the entries.
Gabe
Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages. https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-comedy/m-1624410571/
Hey everyone! I'm chiming in a bit late here, my wife emailed me the contest while I was out in the Bering Sea, and I started writing in the rough stuff. It was my first time in Alaska and given the theme for the OWC, if you ever get a chance to go there, it doesn't disappoint. Thanks again Jeff spearheading this. Almost home, just in time to submit! Good luck everyone and I look forward to reading everyone's work.
I'm not finished yet, but I have 10 pages. I've yet to write the big climax, and I still have to go back and find somewhere to throw in more gratuitous nudity.
It's been far too long since I've posted something here.
Jesus, Eoin suggested that you were a female writer. Good god. lol
I liked it, though. I really did. There's something about your writing, and I noticed it when we tried to team up that one time. Your characters have a fun way of interacting with each other, exchanging words. You got a lot of crap for the ending (and the short itself) but I loved it. It's kind of crazy you don't have more stuff posted.
Hey guys, for those of us in the Southern Hemisphere who are a bit challenged with time diff's can anyone let me how long we have left until deadline??
11:59 EST 12 July would be what in Oz? OWC's typical deadline is usually a Saturday our time but I think this one commenced earlier and so deadline might be tomorrow night our time.
Hey Steve, thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. And I appreciate your comment about character interactions, which is always something I've sort of struggled to get right.
Eoin's comment made me laugh. I'm still trying to figure out why he would think that, but I'm still stumped.
11:59 EST 12 July would be what in Oz? OWC's typical deadline is usually a Saturday our time but I think this one commenced earlier and so deadline might be tomorrow night our time.
1:59 PM on Saturday it seems, at least that's the time I get here in the ACT.
I think it's an 18 hour difference, but I'm not sure about that.
Yeah, that sounds about right, Mo. Roughly 2 pm for us in the Satdy arve.
Be good if you can submit something Lib! I'm halfway through mine. Will finish hand writing it tomorrow (Friday) and get it onto the computer tomorrow night.
I have done a shit load of research for this, lol. Just spent an hour trying to find a certain type of animal that lived in Washington state. It's all good fun though
I'll be crossing my fingers I can get it done. Still need to inject a bit more local colour, not to mention plot and Rratedness and blood and gore... & suspense would be nice.
I'm a 'maybe' at this stage. But, looking forward to seeing what people have come up with.
As of right now, we have just under 40 hours to submit.
I'm actually struggling with mine, The locale I decided to use has caused me an additional page or 2 and I'm now at a point where I'm not sure I can fit everything in to 12 pages.
But, work is slow...incredibly slow, so I should have today and tomorrow to get back on track. Whatever happens, I will submit something.
Keep at it, everyone! Any support needed, let me know.
1] As jeff has requested before, if they could all be released at a at similar time i think it provides for a much more balanced set of reviews. I appreciate this can be some work, but released over several days has an effect.
2] If there are more than 20 scripts, very possible, perhaps we could be clear there is a two week window to review then vote. Sometimes it has drifted and lost focus, which is a shame.
3] yes it's a challenge and not a competition etc but we all like to vote. And if ours is not a runner was our favourite. I hope this is made as good as it can be. Truly anonymous voting is by far the best route. Can we also agree not to vote for our own, whatever - maybe that's not one that could be enforced but at least it's stated....and maybe someone will be watching?
just thoughts
all the best folks and look forward to seeing what was thrown up over the weekend.
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1] As jeff has requested before, if they could all be released at a at similar time i think it provides for a much more balanced set of reviews.
I don't think this is the case really, and if anything, it's worse for the challenge. Honestly, just looking back at previous OWCs, the better written a script is, the more reads it has. Indeed scripts posted earlier might get a few more reads, but eventually, it's all evened out as the better writers are separated from the not-so-good writers. If all scripts are released at once, members will be able to conclude quickly which entries are good and which ones aren't, and I'm 95% sure these will be the entries which will get the most reads. Just my opinion.
I'd like like to add another point. I think we should also have a "Guess who wrote what" thread later on into the challenge like we had in earlier OWCs. It's been very hazy for the past few OWCs and I think it would be a lot of fun.
Sorry, Bill. I gotta disagree with you on one of these.
I don't think this is the case really, and if anything, it's worse for the challenge. Honestly, just looking back at previous OWCs, the better written a script is, the more reads it has. Indeed scripts posted earlier might get a few more reads, but eventually, it's all evened out as the better writers are separated from the not-so-good writers. If all scripts are released at once, members will be able to conclude quickly which entries are good and which ones aren't, and I'm 95% sure these will be the entries which will get the most reads. Just my opinion.
I'd like like to add another point. I think we should also have a "Guess who wrote what" thread
later on into the challenge like we had in earlier OWCs. It's been very hazy for the past few OWCs and I think it would be a lot of fun.
I suppose it does even out, it's just the one time they did a mass release there was a good buzz about it and it seemed fair. Sometime when the last wave is released on Monday/Tuesday it can feel a bit after the event, but i take the point.
The voting and reveal has drifted in the past couple and ideally it would be nice to see this managed.
Guess the reader is a good one and always a favourite challenge. My Brit terms tend to stand out and are quickly spotted!
Final point. Each one of these tends to throw up a phrase or description that is found in many entries. The 'over grown weeds' being one from the gothic horror.
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Bill and Mo - I agree with you both, actually. I totally agree with what you said Bill and have said it myself numerous times, but after thinking about it (before Mo posted), I came up with the same thing Mo said - the better scripts will be read and the poorer written scripts will not, which may be "fair" or "make sense", but for us, not really the way we want things to turn out.
So, my suggestion is a staggered release, but I'd like to see all scripts released within 24 hours of the first release.
We're down to about 13 hours and I'm really looking forward to all the entries. I will not be entering a script after all. Got into a little disagreement with my galpal, and it completely put me in an incredibly shitty mood, to the point where I didn't want to and literally couldn't write.
No big deal as it's not really fair writing based on your own parameters anyway. Maybe I'll finish it later and post as a short.
Anyways, great job everyone! Keep at it and polish those babies up!
Opted out of this one, I'm afraid. My work schedule is such where I work well into the late night and the time I've had to write, I've tried to dedicate to my feature, which is slowly but surely ruining my life. Perhaps I'll give this a shot somewhere down the line.
Strangely, I found this one daunting in just how much freedom there was to it. R-rated is no issue for me whatsoever and I knew immediately I was going to write something in Seattle because it's a music-centric city with shitty weather. Coming up with a discovery proved to be something of a "when you can do anything, what do you do?" situation. Surprisingly tough.
Good job with this one regardless, Jeff. I'm sure the turnout will be overwhelming, to say the least.
Wow. I actually got something submitted for this one. When I first looked at the theme I was stumped, but ultimately had fun exploring the different avenues available.
Nice set-up, Jeff.
I think I ticked off the criteria decently. Now to see what people think of the execution.
Just as long as those who failed to turn up to the party cut some slack to those who put their testicles, or girlie parts, on the line. The stories are always going to have flaws, a few types (for most writers) and things that could be improved.
Whilst it is a one week challenge, the reality is that most write and finsih theirs in less than seven days - five for me, when i could write, and only a matter of hours for some
On balance I think it was a good challenge. Open enough but also quite restricting when you got into it.
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
My logline (or something close to it to throw people off my scent): When Maad and Vee awaken in the Mountains, they must find their way back to Nede to undo their mistake and save humanity from a destructive end.
Four of those words mean something else though, a little curve ball.
Managed to get the R rating by showing some boobage.
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
No firearms of any kind, no projectile weaponry, no weapons of mass destruction, no explosions, no large scale destruction of any kind, including natural disasters. No vehicle stunts or crashes.
Forgive me for saying so, but the above stipulations kinda takes the fun out of it.
IMO, peeps get too caught up in cliches such as these. Personally, I'm so tired of poorly written scripts involving completely unrealistic gun play.
This is a valuable exercise and I need to apply this to my own stuff. I see what you're sayin, writers will put characters in a corner only to give them the easy way out. Time for some characters to actually put in some work.
This is a valuable exercise and I need to apply this to my own stuff. I see what you're sayin, writers will put characters in a corner only to give them the easy way out. Time for some characters to actually put in some work.
Right on!
And also, time for characters to not have to be super human spies, hitmen, drug lords, cops, etc. How many "normal" peeps have guns, anyway...and use them?
And also, time for characters to not have to be super human spies, hitmen, drug lords, cops, etc. How many "normal" peeps have guns, anyway...and use them?
You know me, Jeff, I'm just saying here. Lots of... contradictions.
Genres of Horror, Thriller or Action, but no weapons of any discernible value. An unlimited budget, but nothing that would raise a budget. A young kid with an R rating, but no comedy.
I'm just saying, only Jon Peters would put in these kinds of restrictions, but you've got yourself a nice turnout for this one. Maybe they'll leave you in charge of it and we'll probably have one every three weeks or so. Lol. =)
I'm surprised at the comments about the restrictions. You could adapt the entirety of Paradise Lost with these restrictions, or recreate many of the most classic sequences from Jurassic Park!
Re-Animator and From Beyond are two Stuart Gordon horror classics that conform to all of these regulations for the majority of their running time (except the PNW in 2013 part of course). Gorgeous and Mortal Kombat are two actioners that do the same.
Looking forward to reading all these. Hope they show up soon!!!!
Me too, hoping a few are posted before I go to bed. Just to see what kind of scripts these are. Usually, you can easily guess what type of story everybody will go for but I think with the R rating + the broad theme, I'm left clueless as to what people wrote.
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I did enter mine, receiving mixed reviews thus far and my writing style is different (a lot different).
This challenge was a great test and allowed me to try something new (in both writing and story). Even if the script in question is rather linear in terms of what it is.
Thanks for the OWC, Jeff!
When we are allowed, I will reveal what I wrote, which may surprise some people as it looks vastly different from my usual stuff.
I'm making my way through the entries. My sincere apologies to those scripts that I did not finish. I don't mean to be harsh or hurtful with my comments.
I realize this was a tough challenge in ways, but also very simple in other ways. My main concern or complaint would be that many writers tried to do way too much for what I hoped would be a simple story with good characterization and an R rating.
I really, really enjoyed these, y'all. Some kickass work here, plus lots of great violence of all tones -- and wonderful to see so much horrible violence visited on children
They weren't supposed to be allowed. I'm surprised Don let Mark's script slip through the cracks.
It should probably be moved to the spoof thread so people stop reading it. I also couldn't help myself to look at the name, but it makes me think he was framed.
Right, well I've read and commented on every entry minus the 'spoof' entries. I did start to read one of them, but it just seemed like the same ol' cast of SS stuff, sorry.
Thanks to Jeff. This was a pretty good challenge. I liked the relative freedom of this one and particularly that you included the Pacific North West theme. It added another dimension to the whole thing in terms of visuals and feel.
I hope my recent silence has not been misinterpreted as disinterest.
I have been vacationing, and pretty much away from the computer by design.
As such, I do not have an entry, but do plan on reading over the coming week.
Looks like a good batch, and glancing over the titles, I already know which one I need to read first...
As usual, if you spot some trouble brewing in any of these threads, please alert a mod, as these OWC threads are usually too active to monitor all of them.
As usual, if you spot some trouble brewing in any of these threads, please alert a mod, as these OWC threads are usually too active to monitor all of them.
Everyone's being remarkably well behaved but I suspect this has a lot to do with the fact Jeff's got his Modhat on.
I've read 15 out of the 20 scripts so far and liking everyone to some degree. Good stuff for one week of writing. There's some very talented people on this site.
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
I've read 12 so far, commented on most of them. Overall I'm impressed with the entries compared to previous OWCs. Maybe it's the "no pisser" rule or good timing for some really talented writers to participate, whatever the case is I'm enjoying reading most of these scripts. Of course I haven't read Jeff's yet, so that might change.
I'm slow at reading for the same reason I had to wrap up my own entry in a hurry. I'm a semi-finalist in the Industry Insider Television Writing Contest, so I've been hard at work writing my TV pilot script for the next stage.
I'll read a couple more, after that it's back to writing. If anyone wants me to comment on theirs after the reveal, shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to.
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
I quite liked Something in the Water. Finding Eden wasn't too bad either. Special, although very safe, was enjoyable. Gazpacho Day had the most original take I felt, or at least cinematic. I was kind of harsh with most of my comments so apologies if I came across as a douche, guys.
I don't know why Bee Boy keeps being mentioned as a goofy one? I thought it was fairly well-designed.
Apologies, Chris. I think that was just me... I just thought some choices in the script were strange, and because it was well written, I wondered whether they were on purpose or not.
I thought Bee Boy was one of my favorites. Whether it followed the all the parameters or not, I still believe it was one of the best of the bunch. I also enjoyed 'Something in the water'.
Apologies, Chris. I think that was just me... I just thought some choices in the script were strange, and because it was well written, I wondered whether they were on purpose or not.
No need, sir! A few people seemed to think it was strange. Anyway, I didn't write it, so 'twas just an idle observation.
It always amazes me how different peeps think completely differently. To each his or her own, of course.
Some of the scripts being thrown out as favorites, are ones that clearly did not meet the parameters of this challenge, though...not even remotely close! Some of them were literally impossible to follow...or even read.
Once the voting ends I'll say what I wrote. It may surprise some, but do know I have a more detailed version of it locked and loaded, with more premise and a better ending.
The one you all saw was something to throw you off my scent.
You'll see what I mean once I show the improved version of it.
Then, I will post my reviews on the ones I have read, still got some reading to do... Bee Boy was a bit nuts, very vivid.
No love for Unhooked? Maybe it's just the sailor in me.
I also enjoyed The Beast of Ape Canyon, when the comparison to Creepshow was thrown out there, I got it. Special had some great character development and an engaging plot.
Lee, if I were you, I'd post your reviews now, or ASAP. No reason to wait on that...especially if you wrote an entry and have received feedback already from everyone else.
One thing peeps really dislike is when someone enters and receives all sorts of helpful feedback but doesn't give out any himself.
Lee, if I were you, I'd post your reviews now, or ASAP. No reason to wait on that...especially if you wrote an entry and have received feedback already from everyone else.
One thing peeps really dislike is when someone enters and receives all sorts of helpful feedback but doesn't give out any himself.
Know what I'm saying?
True.
I'll get on my netbook shortly and upload my thoughts to the few I read.
Just finished reading them all, except for the spoofs.
My favorites:
SPECIAL BEAST OF APE CANYON GAZPACHO DAY
HEADHUNTER gets an honorable mention from me because it evoked a couple of good movies and it was a pretty good story to boot. Granted, it seemed like it took place in a rainforest that wasn't the Cascades, it was pretty interesting.
BEE BOY was fun, too. Would've given it higher marks if it had fewer problems.
For the most part, all of these were serviceable. Most of them seemed to tell a normal story about the paranormal. A few were kinda awful, though.
This is the first challenge that I've read all the entries. I was kinda surprised by a lot of the mistakes, especially in regards to the way descriptions were written. I'd assumed most people here would be perfect at it, since it's talked about so often. Dialogue's more of an art, so it's kinda expected that it'd be average...on average. But that's why we come here to get better and that's why it's fun to be here helping each other.
Congrats to all my fellow writers who got 'er done!
"I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called 'Max'."
My fave is Beast of Ape Canyon. It was entertaining, memorable and IMO it did a great job incorporating all of the challenge criteria. The one some people thought it was weak on was the discovery that could change mankind but I think killer eagles would have a dire effect.
I just hope it's written by someone nice and not one of the people leaving "douche-baggy" reviews. Although maybe mine was the only one that got douched.
I just hope it's written by someone nice and not one of the people leaving "douche-baggy" reviews. Although maybe mine was the only one that got douched.
And I thought everyone on SS was a nice person. LOL...
Seriously though, IMO, each person has the right to speak freely, and give their honest thoughts.
We're not always going to "like" everything we hear about our scripts and our writing, but hopefully, the feedback is always meant to help, not hurt.
Also, keep in mind that it's a fact that all feedback is not "correct" in what it says or recommends. It's each writer's responsibility to weed through everything and decide on their own whether the poster knows what they're saying or not. It always amazes me how often I see feedback that is downright incorrect. There are obvious areas where personal choice and opinion rule, but when it comes to the technical aspects of screenwriting and writing in general, facts are facts.
I have pretty thick skin at this point. In fact two of the most helpful reviews were from people who didn't really like my story. To me a DB review is one that spews out negative without being at all specific. That's not helpful or constructive...that's just douche-baggy.
Most of the reviews were very helpful though. One in particular really made me think about something I don't normally pay attention to.
Also, keep in mind that it's a fact that all feedback is not "correct" in what it says or recommends. It's each writer's responsibility to weed through everything and decide on their own whether the poster knows what they're saying or not. It always amazes me how often I see feedback that is downright incorrect. There are obvious areas where personal choice and opinion rule, but when it comes to the technical aspects of screenwriting and writing in general, facts are facts.
I have no idea what you're referencing here, Jeff.
Aren't technical standards formed when personal choices and opinions become cemented over time?
In any case, I stand by what I said, whether you think I know what I'm talking about or not. I was advocating the happy medium when it comes to writing descriptions--not too much, not too little. I felt that particular script came down on the 'too much' side of things.
What's it matter how 'visual' a description is, as long as the reader knows something happened? It's not like the director and editor are going to include every single adverb, adjective or snippet of description in the finished product. Most of it goes without saying. In some cases, a lot of description is great to build emphasis or tone, but when every little thing is emphasized, it's maddening.
Clearly, I'm no acknowledged expert on this topic, but I feel like this is the way to err on the side of caution. That's my approach to descriptions anyhow.
"I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called 'Max'."
I have no idea what you're referencing here, Jeff.
Aren't technical standards formed when personal choices and opinions become cemented over time?
In any case, I stand by what I said, whether you think I know what I'm talking about or not. I was advocating the happy medium when it comes to writing descriptions--not too much, not too little. I felt that particular script came down on the 'too much' side of things.
What's it matter how 'visual' a description is, as long as the reader knows something happened? It's not like the director and editor are going to include every single adverb, adjective or snippet of description in the finished product. Most of it goes without saying. In some cases, a lot of description is great to build emphasis or tone, but when every little thing is emphasized, it's maddening.
Clearly, I'm no acknowledged expert on this topic, but I feel like this is the way to err on the side of caution. That's my approach to descriptions anyhow.
Dan, what you quoted from me was in response to Marnie's earlier post. It has nothing to do with you or what you posted earlier.
Technical standards and aspects of writing are not based on opinions and personal choices...at least they shouldn't be.
What matters about visual writing and visual descriptions is what sets good writing apart from not so good writing. Keep in mind, that if you're dealing with which scripts have a chance to become "real" movies, visual writing is key.
You always want your readers to be able to see what it is you're actually writing. It's not easy and few can actually do it. Anyone can write a line like you suggested - "Joe kills Mike." "The lion kills an Indian." Never going to work.
Sure, of course there's a happy medium between too much and to little and the script you referenced may well have been overwritten in places, but the answer isn't a nonvisual simple sentence.
I've read all the scripts, but stopped commenting because I felt drained and didn't want my thoughts to be watered down...I will post the rest of my reviews tonight.
This OWC has been the most quality learning I have received since I decided I want to try and write. I've heard the same comments on my previous works so far, but it was great to get down to the bottom of the barrel, and really find out where I can make drastic improvements.
Great stuff to all the writers! I am in good company for sure.
Dan, what you quoted from me was in response to Marnie's earlier post. It has nothing to do with you or what you posted earlier.
Oops. Well, you phrased it almost identically to your reply on the other thread.
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Technical standards and aspects of writing are not based on opinions and personal choices...at least they shouldn't be.
Well, they had to come from the personal choices and opinions of someone who knew what they were talking about, right?
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What matters about visual writing and visual descriptions is what sets good writing apart from not so good writing. Keep in mind, that if you're dealing with which scripts have a chance to become "real" movies, visual writing is key.
You always want your readers to be able to see what it is you're actually writing. It's not easy and few can actually do it. Anyone can write a line like you suggested - "Joe kills Mike." "The lion kills an Indian." Never going to work.
To me, this seems to contradict the idea that you shouldn't do the director's job for them. If it's not an outright contradiction, at the least it seems like a moderate infringement. I mean, the idea behind what we're doing is providing a detailed suggestion for a movie, not the novelization or the camera-ready instructions for how to make it, right? My assumption has always been that you should write only the amount you need to communicate your idea in the way it should be communicated.
"I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called 'Max'."
Well, they had to come from the personal choices and opinions of someone who knew what they were talking about, right?
Dan, I'm not following your logic here. There's a way to write scripts and if you deviate from that too far, anyone who knows what he or she's talking about, will bring it up and point it out.
To me, this seems to contradict the idea that you shouldn't do the director's job for them. If it's not an outright contradiction, at the least it seems like a moderate infringement. I mean, the idea behind what we're doing is providing a detailed suggestion for a movie, not the novelization or the camera-ready instructions for how to make it, right? My assumption has always been that you should write only the amount you need to communicate your idea in the way it should be communicated.
Why do you think some scripts get read and others don't? And, I'm talking on a Pro basis and a non Pro basis.
You have to engage your reader. You want your reader to be able to see what's going on. The more visual that is, the better the writing is.
That's pretty standard stuff.
I think you're confusing overwriting with visual writing.
Overwriting contains meaningless details.
Visual writing contains "visuals" that draw a reader into the world you've created. They make your script jump off the page and into the reader's mind.
Just noticed all the writers have been posted! which slightly changes the discussion
I wanted to have a few guesses first.
Anyway, as Mo also said, apologies if any of my comments offended i still suffer from being too eager to read and review and probably with that lack some finesse to the comments.
My conclusion of this OWC are;
1] more difficult than at first appeared, but a decent challenge
2] despite [1] A good variety were entered with little in common to each other - even the adam and eve duo.
3] no script really nailed it, mine included, but a handful had good concepts with potential
Not sure whether there will be voting but i am happy to put my preferences forward, excluding mine. A condition for voting if you ask me.
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
Yeah - the reveal was so quick?? But I think this was a mistake? Last time there were cries of 'reveal the kracken!' before we got any where near the writers. I could still vote, but I've only read half - so would it still be legit?
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