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The Word by E - Short - An unusual duo manage to get across the border...but they might not get away from this beautiful California beach.  - pdf, format


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Maybe I'm too tired but I struggled to follow that. I was intrigued but confused and I'm not sure what I just read!


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I'm a bit confused with this story. I do not understand the sneaking across the border....nor do I get why Simone killed those at the beginning....then on page 10 ...we get this monster thing. This was not very easy to understand. I think maybe too many ideas went into this short...making it a confusing read.
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I too struggled here.  Alot of the problem is the writing itself, as it's very novelistic, and although it is visual at times, mostly, it seems purposely ambivalent.

I think you met most of the challenge, but you had a gun, which was a no no.  The pacific Northwest was definitely the setting, but it didn't seem to rally be front and center...for me, at least.  As for the miraculous discovery, I don't think so.

I like the child and his innocence.  I didn't have a clue who Simone was, but she was cool.  As for Myrnos and the creature, completely clueless.

Early on, you failed to intro characters properly, and the children in the back seat of the car just disappeared somehow.

You nailed the R rating very well, and I appreciated the graphic violence for sure.

I applaud you for such an ambitious take on the challenge, but this didn't work for me overall, as nothing really made any sense, and it was very difficult to follow.

Good job, though...I can tell you were definitely thinking and you have quite an imagination.
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SPOILERS

As I go:

Gun!

If they're heading down into the States, isn't Aaron Canadian? Or is he going home? (Wondering re: Aaron is "African-American")

Did Aaron understand that she was going to kill him? He seems super set on helping her right away.

There's so much exposition with Myrmos, I think it could stand to be shorter and more to the point.

Haha! Both of the Biblical ones seem to involve a lot of violence against children.

Tentacles roar?

Thoughts:

The climax here is unclear, I think, because the stakes aren't properly set up. How does the "word" thing work? Why does he have to say a certain word? Why are the monsters bound by some sort of set of rules? The end is obviously "huge" because it involves the entire earth but it's unclear why whatever happened here has an earth-something-ing effect.

The relationship between Simone and Aaron needs to be a little more clear, I think, especially since the climax hinges on him wanting to help someone who was going to kill him -- again, I'm not sure if he knows that she was going to kill him.

I'm not sure if the Mom at the start works. Jumping between two cars is a disorienting way to start the flick, especially since the mom and her carload just disappear afterwards. This definitely would benefit from a very clear setup, since it quickly gets unclear, I think both intentionally and unintentionally. So a cleaner start would have been nice, before things get weird.
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Am I the only one that thinks Myrmos is a total badass!?!

It seems this duo has got themselves in one of the most random predicaments I have ever read.  Simone is an edgy character, but I'm a bit unsure to why she was fleeing the government.  The start of was a lot of shuffling in hindsight.  I wouldn't have minded the gun so much if the trigger wasn't pulled.

I didn't start turning pages until Myrmos showed up.  I don't know why I think it's cool, I could just see myself watching the whole ending, entertained as hell.  Not to mention the huge beam of random light at the end, what was going on there?

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Yeah like a few people, I lost all grasp of this when we got to the sea cave.

Before that though, it was pretty well written. The border crossing , the forest scenes.

No lack of imagination with the creature ending but I think it somehow got away from the writer.

But no prob at all with the style and formatting, etc

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Page 3: Sorry to say but nothing on this page makes any sense. I can see the style you're aiming for but it's not working for me. Some clarity would do this script good.

Continuing on, isn't she inside the car? How can she put on a blouse? Are there suddenly now two Simones?

Aaron? Where did he come from?

Page 6: "EXT. SOMEWHERE ON THE CALIFORNIA COAST - DAWN" Strangely specific but very broad at the same time. I'm interested to see who wrote this...

Page 8: Wait, he ran deeper inside the cave?

Finished.

You have a vision, but it's not executed nicely here. I tried hard to understand everything, rereading pages but it was still a mess unfortunately. I was confused throughout.

Grade: D-
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I think there's a lot to like with this!

Having said that, I'm still a little leery of descriptions like:

'She's gorgeous in her tranquility',

and, re this one:

'Down the beach a ways, a dark cave yawns from the rock, an ugly wound in the cliff’s side'.

Imo, you've doubled up with that latter description and you should leave it at one or the other - something that maybe you didn't see in the edit perhaps? Also, the bit with the knife sounds ambiguous - as if she'd swallowed it

Some might say quite a bit of this is overwritten, but I don't mind that if the story comes across clearly - unfortunately it's way too convoluted for me and by the time we get to Myrmos and The Philosophers etc. you've lost me, sorry.

I feel like this is a story you've constructed in your head and you understand it perfectly you've just got to get it to the point where your audience understands it too.

Your beginning is solid, I really like it, but it just doesn't really resemble the second half which goes off on a big tangent.

So, summing up: Gore and Rrating - yep, plenty of gore and a boob flash.
PacficNorthwest Locale: - not sure it was front and centre - seemed intermittent.
Theme: Probably, but I'm not sure I understood it.
Outside location - yep, all good.

I enjoyed this, it's just not quite all there...yet.

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Hello naughty boy - or is the boy thing a decoy?


Flashes recognition - what's that mean and why?  Arh, boob shot

I may have to come back to this, I had a disrupted read and to be honest found it hard to follow. I couldn't really follow it to well.

What was the relationship with Patricia and why the border and then the fiery death - yeah need a re read.


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I was really enjoying this up until Myrmos showed up, then I lost it.

It flowed very easily up until that point, maybe you were trying too hard.

Your descriptions were excellent and the dialogue was also good.

Well done for finishing the owc

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Intriguing intro. Good main character. Drowns in reveal.

The border crossing stuff was intense. Compelling. I was perfectly lost, wondering why and what. I could have spent the whole time with the group... of humans. It reminded me of FROM DUSK TIL DAWN. A serious intro, crime filled, dark. Then turns to bmovie monster fun.

This got me through dusk but not til dawn. Merman does nothing for me. One of those monsters I never really latched onto, I guess. Some good violence. Some bad assery. Just not my full cup. If you go for merman why not go under water. Like kid makes car go off road, into water. Rescued by merman and shown its world below. An idea. I really loved the intro stuff. You definitely had me glued.

Thrilling. Intense. And then what the fuck?!


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Gonna have to echo previous comments and say I enjoyed everything up until the monster in the cave showed up.  There was a real degree of mystery and menace in those scenes leading up to the cave (woods especially) but the arrival of the ‘thing’ felt too disconnected from the set-up, and we never got an understanding of Simone’s motives and what exactly they were running from and why.  Simone was an interesting, quirky character, again it's a shame we never got to understand her more.

The transition from the speck on the cheek to the car on the highway was a nice touch, though it did take a second look to catch it.  Wish I could have taken more away from this -- interested to get more insight out of this one.

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A lot of scenes that were written clearly for the most part, but when strung together in this order make no sense whatsoever.

Was Aaron some sort of Christ-like figure? Why was his blood so important? Who else was he saving than Simone? And why did he like her? 8 seems a bit young for him to "like" her.


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I was really drawn into what you’d set up in the beginning. Simone’s on the run from the government and Aaron’s “fake” parents. I wanted to know the back story of these two and was beyond disappointed to find none.

So the tentacle was cool and unexpected, and Myrmos was a neat creation, but this is where I lost the plot. Myrmos is a sea monster, made by Philosophers. He calls Aaron ‘father’ for some reason and he’s brought Aaron blood (how thoughtful ).

I don’t know what any of that means. I kinda like the idea that Aaron would doom humanity to save someone who was trying to kill him, but that idea gets lost in the jumble.

I will give you this… The visuals and action of that last scene are pretty compelling. It just doesn’t make any sense to me.

Congrats on getting a script in for the challenge though.
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Ambitious -- and very well-written from my perspective -- but ultimately too convoluted for its own good.

The conversation between Aaron and Myrmos is where you lost me.  I read it slowly -- really trying to dissect what was going on -- but there were just too many threads introduced and then dropped.  Blood, fathers, machines and philosophers -- it never added up.

While I totally get what you were going for at the end -- particularly given the cloying authorship found on the title page -- the individual pieces of this story do not seem to justify or even support the desired conclusion.

For some nits, I would suggest that the opening scene with the SUV serves no real purpose -- unless I am missing something -- and the introduction of the cave itself was a little too convenient.

But don't get me wrong.  I enjoyed nearly everything the author set down here.  I just think the author was trying to say too much with too much subtlety, subterfuge, and hints of Lovecraft.

And having said that, I also have a fair idea as to who might have written this.


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Great dialogue and characterization with Patricia and later Simone. Lots of rich visuals, maybe too much as it borders on overly artistic.

Raindrop against Patricia's eyeball is redundant, the hole in her head already suggests she's dead. We only need to see that raindrop if the eye then blinks, that would be unexpected.

I don't get how Simone ended up in the sedan with Aaron. We see the sedan earlier, she says she hit the mom but didn't kill her, but when did she do that? Why did she take Aaron?

Some grat descriptions with Simone getting puppeted by a very cool tentacle out of the blue, nice twist there. After that it gets very convoluted and way too ambitious. Myrmos is unconvincing with too much exposition, Aaron makes bizarre choices like running deeper into the cave to get help and choosing to save his abductor, and I'm left wondering why it came down to destroying one woman or the world. If it's allegory I'm missing the meaning.

Good effort, enjoyable writing, doesn't quite work for me.


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The writing for the most part flowed nicely. I liked the idea of you starting at the Canadian/U.S. border and using Patricia as a hostage to help get past border patrol but things need to get cleared up a bit. Why was Aaron helping Simone and in return why was Simone helping Aaron? Myrmos was a nice touch and unexpected in the cave.

Not bad by any means, just needs a good rewrite to clear up some of the confusion.

Congrats on the OWC.

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I like the road trip aspect of this and the way that you progress the protagonist from one character to the next. Forcing the kid to make a choice is strong and the payoff for the world is cool stuff.

Their border crossing is a good opening, but I wonder if we’d get more tension out of it if we knew she had something to hide as it plays out.

It might be that some of the story elements that come in later on in this could be introduced earlier so that we can have a clearer sense of what is at stake throughout the story. As it is they appear when they are needed and even though they are fun, we’re not getting as much mileage out of them as we might have done. Also, by holding back these story elements it felt like some of the more out there things came out of left field, e.g. the tentacle attack.


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I'm with the others. This one was confusing.

I guess that can happen when you write a script in a week. The writing is good, but I think this needs a rewrite to clear things up.

I can't really comment on the story since I'm not sure what happened. All I can say, there are some interesting images here, like the melting corpse and the choice of locations. Good job finishing an OWC entry.

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Thanks everyone!

I've been obsessed lately with figuring out how little one can get away with explaining before people lose all interest. So I did try to knock this down to the super-subtle level, and obviously went too far (in addition to making some very obvious mistakes).

Sorry for the gun! I have no idea how that one got by me. Just totally blanked on it somehow. Idiot.

I will have a chance to sit down tomorrow and respond to some individual comments. Thanks for all the reads and helpful criticisms.
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Okay! Here I go. Thanks again, everybody I'll try to answer everyone's questions by responding to a few that I think sum up most people's comments.


Quoted from DanBall
Was Aaron some sort of Christ-like figure? Why was his blood so important? Who else was he saving than Simone? And why did he like her? 8 seems a bit young for him to "like" her.


I'm starting here because I think this gets at the main things that the script obviously fails to convey.

1. Yes, Aaron -- and Myrmos -- are meant to be Christ-like figures. I tried to really use description and visuals to set this up, so the line that I thought would be a big reveal would land and sum everything up. So here're the hints from the script that I was hoping would build up:

"Fucking rich asshole. Go to hell."
"SIMONE DESPOSY..."
"Halfway there, she smiles and waves, then flashes recognition -- oops. Her face changes. Her cheeks redden....She does up a few of the middle buttons on the blouse, hiding her bare breasts, and continues to the car."
"Aaron looks over at her as she pulls out an apple..."
"At the entrance [to the cave], a pile of large, jagged rocks. Their shapes make them look like pieces of a bigger whole."
"It’s as though she’s walking on a pool of her own blood."
"MYRMOS"

And then the line that I thought/hoped would actually seal the deal was:

"With difficulty, Myrmos reaches a three-fingered hand to its wounded chest and withdraws it, dripping black. It slashes a vertical line in the rock, then a horizontal one. A cross.
MYRMOS
The blood. I am...yours, Father."

So I was hoping that this stuff would set up an allusive framing to the Christ story, yeah. And then Aaron sacrifices himself for Simone, and gets crucified:

"A tentacle darts out and lashes round one wrist, then the other. He screams as it stretches his arms out, lifts him. ...A tentacle spears through Aaron’s feet. His blood drips to the ground below. ...It rips the boy into so many separate pieces, the body just disappears."

So I saw that as crucifixion and the subsequent reversion to the pure divine, albeit a little more violent than usual.

2. Actually, maybe the question of blood and who else he was saving would have been answered if the above were written more clearly?

3. Why did he like her? He had very little reason to. She was relatively kind with him, I think, but otherwise she seems to be almost entirely evil. I think he had every reason to hate her, in fact, but he still wouldn't let her be killed. And leading up to that, he was really just stuck with her. Those highways are quiet and scary at nighttime. It was important to me, as relating to the above, that he have every reason to not like her before sacrificing himself for her anyway.


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I don't get how Simone ended up in the sedan with Aaron. We see the sedan earlier, she says she hit the mom but didn't kill her, but when did she do that? Why did she take Aaron?


I see that a couple people had this problem. I think because I point out that the family, and Aaron, are African American, it seems like Aaron was supposed to have been taken from the family vehicle. That's not what I intended. Aaron and Simone are in the trunk of Patricia's car the whole time; they just drive past the SUV with another family in there.

I wanted the intro to be confusing in the sense that we don't know where we're staying or who we're focusing on. I also wanted to set up a world that sucked, or, is "going to hell", so I wanted to quickly convey a dissatisfied society -- a black (maybe single) mom with annoying and violent kids in an old run-down vehicle, angrily envious of a white upper-middle-class woman who seems to get special treatment from the border in a couple ways. Trying to sum up class/race conflicts in a couple sentences, haha.


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Myrmos is unconvincing with too much exposition, Aaron makes bizarre choices like running deeper into the cave to get help and choosing to save his abductor, and I'm left wondering why it came down to destroying one woman or the world. If it's allegory I'm missing the meaning.


Yes I agree with this. The key choice needs to be set up a lot earlier and be put a lot more front and centre. The line that's sorta supposed to frame the second half is:

"SIMONE
...You mean she’s sad because you’re gone. Of course she is, kid. But you wanna do what’s good for you, or what’s good for everybody else?"

But this needed way more emphasis. There should probably be action early on setting up the idea of sacrifice, which brings me to:


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Their border crossing is a good opening, but I wonder if we’d get more tension out of it if we knew she had something to hide as it plays out.

It might be that some of the story elements that come in later on in this could be introduced earlier so that we can have a clearer sense of what is at stake throughout the story.


These are absolutely great points. Yes I think one thing everyone agrees on is that the tentacle comes out of left field. I wanted the b-movie monster stuff to feel out of left field, but I also wanted it to seem to fit thematically, so I think you're very right in saying that certain elements need to be introduced or foreshadowed earlier and more strongly.

SOOO, I will definitely rewrite with everyone's comments in mind, and try to get Myrmos' backstory way shorter and less expositional.

Just out of curiosity, if "The Philosophers" had instead been referred to as "The Scientists," would that do anything for anybody? The reason I called them "Philosophers" was that at the time Myrmos is talking about, they would have called scientists "philosophers." But I had a feeling that that might be very confusing.

Anyway. Mark, Dena, Jeff, Johnny, Stevie, Mo, Libby, Bill, Mark, Fountain, Steve, Dan, Eric, Bert, Rene, Dirk, Philip, and Will, thanks so much!

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While I totally get what you were going for at the end -- particularly given the cloying authorship found on the title page -- the individual pieces of this story do not seem to justify or even support the desired conclusion.


This totally got by me. It's a Life of Brian joke. I didn't even mean for it to relate to the story, it's just the first thing that popped into my head.
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