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Posted: June 27th, 2014, 8:44pm Report to Moderator
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This is a 1+6 week challenge.  Week one - first 10 pages. Week 7 - final script

This is a two stage exercise.  Submit the first 5 - 10 pages of your script by Friday, July 4th at 11:59 pm e.d.t.


The final script is due Friday, August 15th at 11:59 pm e.d.t.

You must write a script (properly formatted) between 90 to 120 pages or less (courier 12 point font).

This month's theme and genre:

Genre:  Thriller
Theme:  Male lead about 50 years old. Race against the clock.


The Gist: This is a theme that I've seen across several production company 'looking for scripts' requests.  Assume a male actor in his 50's, in good physical shape, is looking for a mid to high budget "Race-Against-The-Clock Thriller"

The scripts must be received by Friday, August 15th at 11:59 pm e.d.t..  Please put "(c) Copyright 2014" on your script.

Submit your scripts to http://www.simplyscripts.com/owc

Bear in mind, this is just an exercise, this isn't a contest.  At the end, each participant will be asked to vote his/her choice of a script.  The intent is that the writer will come away from this challenge with a marketable script.

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Updated:  As noted by Pia, this isn't suppose to be anonymous (however, if you wish to remain anonymous, you may). Also, if you don't get the first ten in by the deadline, that doesn't mean you can't participate.


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Maybe I should be the model for the lead?  50's in phenominal shape?  

Or Stevie, but that would be 50's Aussie in skinnyass shape.

Good luck everyone, this kid is out.  But, of course I will read as many as I cna and give uplifting feedback!   > > >
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This should be fun.  I have just the thing in mind...
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Hot sought after type script! Write a good one and who knows what might happen. I've had two of these 7WC scripts produced, so I'm definitely a fan. IMHO, more chance to get one of these produced than a short OWC. Besides, if you're serious about writing, features is where it's at anyway.

Best of all....you won't waste your time reading a feature length intended pisser!!!!!  


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I don't know about this. But for some reason, I thought of Taken.


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Yay from me!! Hi five to those who are in)
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So it pretty much has to be a 50 year old man has to accomplish whatever by whatever time or it's his ass?  No other limitations, just that?


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I've got mine done already.

Title: Pissed Off.

Logline: A man with a chronic urinary tract infection races against time to relieve him self before he drowns from the inside out in his own urine.

It's not a pisser.  Really.   Well...okay...it is.

Back to the drawing board.


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Ideas that initially crossed my mind when reading this challenge:

A man races against time to find his kidnapped granddaughter held hostage by her insane father who was committed for killing his wife.

A retired CIA Agent finds himself embroiled in a turf war between two gangs, one of which kidnaps his family...

Mostly "KIDNAPPING" style stories crossed my mind when I started brainstorming 2 minutes after reading the initial post.  Ideas like Taken, for example.

Then I thought outside the box and landed on something else not riddled with cliche plot points and storylines...
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This is so out of my element that I feel I have to give this a shot. I don't think I've written a lead character that wasn't a teenager, still struggling with the fact that I'm no longer one.

I find writing in a genre outside of your norm can get really interesting, it's easier to avoid tropes and create something fairly original. However, after reading the theme I can't stop thinking about 3 Days to Kill, which I saw recently and left a bad taste in my mouth (but I kind of was into it? Confused? Me too).


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LOL - Kev, I thought 3 Days to Kill was surprisingly good.  The action scenes felt realistic and didn't have Hollywood music playing over it.  

Best Kevin Costner film since 3000 Miles to Graceland.
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I thought 3 Days to Kill and 3000 Miles to Graceland were both bad movies

I don't plan on joining this OWC but... I hope you guys don't write kidnapping and Taken like scripts. They're so cliche and over done. I hope most of you go for something more creative.

I plan on watching the movie Calvary soon. From what I read of the synopsis that seems a bit like a race against the clock type movie with a 50-60 year old main character. But it's not an action movie.

The logline from the trailer I saw would read:

Father James is a good man intent on making the world a better place. During confession a parishioner threatens that he will kill him the next Sunday. As the week progresses the forces of darkness begin to close in around him.

Something like that would be more interesting IMO.
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Quoted from Demento
I hope you guys don't write kidnapping and Taken like scripts. They're so cliche and over done. I hope most of you go for something more creative.


That they are... but adding another spice to that cliche curry always sweetens the meal.  
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Not one for me, but a good challenge for those who take part.

Some good opportunities to add tension. The creativity will be in choosing something that almost doesn't appear to be a clock.

All the best.


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I'm going away for two weeks at the end of July, so this will be more like a 1+4 week challenge for me... but fuck it, I'm in!


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Quoted from Demento
I hope you guys don't write kidnapping and Taken like scripts. They're so cliche and over done. I hope most of you go for something more creative.


That may be true, but I still hear people looking for those types of scripts. And as far as the male lead age 50 goes, all you have to do is think about all those actors that used to be somebody who is now looking for something to revive their career. Sort of like Liam Neeson with Taken.  


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I'm getting used to a new job and have very little time atm, which is why I've not been around much, but good luck to everyone who enters and I'll try to read some of them at least.

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I'm out of this one... I don't have the time to commit to something like this at the moment. Plus, there's nothing in this subject matter that really excites me.
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There's a lot about this subject matter that can excite you, Dustin.  

It's all about the game.  Race against the clock thriller with a 50+ lead = think outside the box yet remain inside said box.

I think a lot of folks may go for the "kidnapping" thing, some may stick to that formula through their script, but some might make it more thrilling by adding several elements to the script that make it MORE than what it first appears to be.

There's really no limits to what you can do with this challenge.  The only limitation is the character's age, but that's not really a limitation.
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Quoted from Leegion
There's a lot about this subject matter that can excite you, Dustin.  


It's that James Herbert thing again, mate. Standard fare.
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It's that James Herbert thing again, mate. Standard fare.


Some may agree with that, I see the challenge as an opportunity to tell something unique whilst keeping it relatively known.  As I said, most would think "Taken".

But then I realized that the challenge didn't explicitly state that the main character HAD to be the Protagonist.
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Quoted from DustinBowcot
I'm out of this one... I don't have the time to commit to something like this at the moment. Plus, there's nothing in this subject matter that really excites me.


You make the subject matter exciting, that's what a good story-teller does.

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Quoted from Demento
... I hope you guys don't write kidnapping and Taken like scripts. They're so cliche and over done. I hope most of you go for something more creative.


No - Taken wasn't a cliche - it was the copies of Taken that became the cliches.
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For me the standard to meet (or beat) isn't Taken, it's 24. I thought Taken was alright, but by the time it came out I'd already been weaned on several seasons of 24 and nothing in Taken stood out as particularly fresh.

24's been getting a little long in the tooth these days, but I'd put those early seasons up next to any feature film thriller hollywood cares to churn out.

As far as the challenge, I've got an idea forming and should be able to get the five to ten. After that I can tell my plot would get complicated and I'll be spending a lot of time preplanning. But after spending so long on the feature I'm finishing now, I've been wanting to challenge myself to write quicker, so this seems like good timing.
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No - Taken wasn't a cliche - it was the copies of Taken that became the cliches.


I have to ask, what's original about Taken?

Don't get me wrong, I like Taken. It's an okay movie for what it is. A fast moving movie that keeps going forward and doesn't let up. It was entertaining. It was reminiscent of "Nick of Time" with Johnny Depp to me, which was similar to "Cellular" that came after. The running clock, person in peril movies were done before. The structure of something constantly going on and moving from one action scene to the other is more or less the norm now in action movies these past 10 years. "Live Free or Die Hard" to me is similar to Taken in structure. You even have the kidnapped daughter part.

To me Taken gets a bit lost in the sea of action movies Luc Besson chucks out every year: "Colombiana, Kiss of the Dragon, The Transporter movies, From Paris with Love, 3 Days to Kill, Wasabi, Lockout, Danny the Dog and so on". Even his new movie "Lucy" appears similar. All of the movies he writes follow a very similar structure. Taken sticks out from the pack because of the pace it sets. But I don't see how it is original in any way.

After Taken and the success it had in its US theatrical run despite being out DVD at the time, these kinds of "beat the clock" movies have become even more frequent. "The Call", "Stolen", "Getaway" and so on. Most of them haven't done really well at the Box Office.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with these kinds of movies. I understand why there is a demand for them. The general public does seem to find them entertaining. They set up the tension element well in place at the start and you can build on it as the clock runs down.

All I'm saying is that I would like to see people try to figure out a more original path to the parameters set by this OWC rather then going down a road that has been walked many times before.

Sorry for ranting on a bit. Good luck to the writers, I hope you guys write some great stuff.
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Quoted from Demento

I like Taken. It's an okay movie for what it is. A fast moving movie that keeps going forward and doesn't let up.

This is exactly why two of my 7WC scripts were made into films. They were fast moving. Filmmakers out there who have distributors to "please" know that even one page/minute of dull film will make some people flip to another channel.

Originality? Great if you can come up with something we haven't seen before, but at the same time, there's nothing wrong writing something that may not be totally unique, but still zips along and entertains. Those films get made too.

Also, don't forget that the 1+6WC is not like the OWC. We're not trying to write something that no one knows who wrote it. The 1+6WC is about being able to write a feature! It's okay to ask here what your fellow SS members think of your idea so far and help you when you get stuck. I repeat, the main goal is to write a feature! That is a lot bigger challenge than writing a short for shits and giggles. So, if you need help or a push, feel free to ask for help.  

PS. By shits and giggles, I mean no one is going to write a feature length pisser.  



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I mean no one is going to write a feature length pisser.


Oh I don't know. Have you seen Adam Sandler's works of late?

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You make the subject matter exciting, that's what a good story-teller does.



I said it doesn't excite me. I can write one that would be very exciting for other people to watch... but I wouldn't be interested in doing that at this time. I realise things need to be simplified for you, but this is starting to get a little much.
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So, how many of you are giving this a go? If you are, how is it going?  


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I'm in and things are kind of going. I'm at page 15, but need to really edit it down, so after that's all said and done, I probably won't even have 10 pages written so far. Still, I'm going to try for the end on this. =)


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Good for you Sean. You never know who'll be watching this thread.  


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If it's anything like my first two 7WC entries, they'll be wholly disappointed when the two months ends and I have no finished script. That said, I did finish Christmas Story for the third one, so maybe I'm over the hump. Who knows? You going to throw one out there, too, Pia? You know you have to... =)


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I planned to enter -- and am still hoping to. However, I've been preparing all week for an interview for a funded PhD program. That being said, the interview has finished, I have an idea and I still have two days before the deadline!

So I should be able to crank something out before then


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I have an idea and I still have two days before the deadline!

So I should be able to crank something out before then


Let me make this clear, this isn't a contest. If you don't have 5-10 pages by Friday, it doesn't mean you can't continue on. The goal here is to write a feature. If you write the whole darn thing in the last week, that's fine. And, unlike the OWC, you're free to discuss your script and ask for help here if you get stuck. I noticed Don wrote that the scripts should be submitted anonymously. I'm not sure why. I'll have to ask him. Again, these 7WC are different that way compared to the OWC. At least it has always been so in the past.

Sean, I wasn't going to participate since I'm too busy with other life stuff right now, but if the turnout is low, I might just pull some all nighters near the end. I'm weird like that.  


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I seriously just don't have time. Or I would. It's not like it's a difficult one, and I actually already have something that I could rewrite to fit. It's a thriller I never listed here that I just never got around to doing a second draft on. If I do get some time, I'll throw down a quick rewrite and enter it.
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So, how many of you are giving this a go? If you are, how is it going?  


30 pages and it's going pretty damn good.  Already sent in the first 10 pages, which are probably the most intense 10 pages I've written.

It's a violent, thought-provoking tale of revenge.  

I'd say more, but it does say we're not allowed to state what we've written.  Or am I reading it wrong again? lol.
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I hate u leegion. Lol.

I have the idea. But it's writing it that's going to suck. I apologize in advance for those who are going to read it.

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I notice that it says mid to high budget, but I don't know what that means exactly.
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Well, the good news is I've gotten most of my story beats in order, even a few character arcs thought through. I know where I'm starting, I know where I'm going and I can see a lot of the scenery along the way. The bad news?

I've written jack down yet. Time to focus on that first ten I suppose.
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Hey, good going you guys! Glad to see you're along for the ride. These feature challenges are tough, but IMHO they are very satisfying when you have at least a first draft when it's over. Then you can start on the rewrites with all the comments you will receive!  

As far as the budget thing goes, I have no clue. I was asked earlier this year to write a sci-fi that takes place at least 50% of the time on a spaceship. Normally, I would think BIG budget for something like that, but it turns out they had access to a spaceship set for free and wanted to use it. You just never know. My suggestion would be to not go for BIG budget, but not to worry too much. If the story and characters are strong enough, the script can always be modified to fit the budget.  


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On page 9...

Looking forward to seeing all the kidnapping scripts.  

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Yeah, well, prepare to be disappointed. I'm bringing back an old idea of mine from another 7WC (the amnesia 7WC, if anyone remembers) and it has nothing to do with a kidnapping. =)


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Man - I alsmot forgot about this one with MP news and all... But I have my idea outlined and everything, so I'm going to write one. Not sure about submitting hte first ten on time but I'll try my best. The idea came from MP logline challenge. Then I wrote pieces of the script and then threw it away. But the outline stayed. And I'm going to write it.
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On page 9...

Looking forward to seeing all the kidnapping scripts.  

Shawn.....><


I have no idea what you're talking about.  Who would write a kidnapping story?
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So, how many of you are giving this a go? If you are, how is it going?  


I'm going to give this a go. Been flat out this week and was thinking I wasn't going to get anything in until my other half pointed out 5-10 pages which is surely doable...


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Not sure about submitting hte first ten on time but I'll try my best... '


NB: Khamanna - the five page minimum. We're all so used to OWC's being ten pages and I'm assuming that what might first go up could well change and evolve a lot over the 7 weeks, right?


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I noticed Don wrote that the scripts should be submitted anonymously. I'm not sure why. like that.  


I really like the idea of anonymity for the first lot. It means we can get feedback for our first 5-10 without prejudice, so I think that would be good if it stayed.






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So, how many of you are giving this a go? If you are, how is it going?  


I'll drop the A nomb of the first ten pages shortly.
And then trash it and rewrite the whole darned thing...



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Darren,

Are more than ten pages permitted for the initial posting?


I'm not the one who started the challenge this time around, but the way I understand it, only 5-10 oages are needed. But if you have 11, nobody's screaming in agony (yet)

Also, remember this first week is all a WIP.


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Darren,

Ah yes... sorry about that. My apologies to Don as well, I guess it helps to remember what thread I'm actually in before I start posting.

That being said, I had a glance at the previous 7WC, and noticed the naming convention for the scripts are;

'Script Title - 1+6 WC'   is this the proper naming convention to be used when uploading the features for this challenge?

Thanks in advance...
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Now I have 45 pages... I'm taking a break for 3 weeks, lol.  Good thing this is a 7WC.  Gives me enough time to recharge.

Vacation here I come!
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Heh all.

I just thought I'd chime in too. I noticed the challenge on Canada Day but I think I came up with an idea that'll work. And no kidnapping. Hehehe.

This is the first feature challenge for me, so I'm pretty excited. The few OWCs I've already participated in were really helpful. I enjoyed the reviewing process as well. I really look forward to what everyone does under feature length parameters.

I finished the first 10 pages earlier today. So add another to that participating list.

Good luck everyone. This should be a lot of fun.


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Update:  As noted by Pia, this isn't suppose to be anonymous (however, if you wish to remain anonymous, you may).


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I think it would be good if the first part of this OWC was anonymous. After that those who were guilty of writing what when could be revealed.

Reading without prejudice does have its advantages, in my humble.

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Aw shocks.  I submitted mine as a pseudonym, lol.  Oh well, it's done now.

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I'm not too bothered but I agree with Ren that receiving feedback which is not prejudiced is a good thing at least for the first 5-10. Works best I think too if all players are in agreement i.e., everyone's anon. Anyway, I'll go with the general consensus.


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I will submit anonymously in solidarity with Lee! I think doing the first ten anonymously is a cool idea.
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Was something that I blasted out in twenty minute whilst I lay in the bath, but that doesn't mean it's not brilliant.
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I'm in.

Was something that I blasted out in twenty minute whilst I lay in the bath, but that doesn't mean it's not brilliant.


Yeah... funny you should mention that, because my ankle's been playing up something terrible.
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I agree with anonymous too. For non bias opinions and just to get some opinions.  I find the OWC to be the only way to get feedback on my writing here....

by the by, anyone down for a script and review exchange for other projects?


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Quoted from Last Fountain
I agree with anonymous too. For non bias opinions and just to get some opinions.  I find the OWC to be the only way to get feedback on my writing here....

by the by, anyone down for a script and review exchange for other projects?


I have a 29 page short in need of a read - happy to share. If ok, PM me.

Cheers

Bill


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I'll send mine in tomorrow maybe. Or the day after tomorrow. Need to work on it some more. Sorry for the delay, hope it's not a problem.
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Quoted from Reef Dreamer


I have a 29 page short in need of a read - happy to share. If ok, PM me.

Cheers

Bill


Hey, Bill, send it to me as well. I don't have anything for exchange, but that's okay. The email is khamannaathotmail.
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Waiting...looking forward to these...

Sorry not to be participating but life got in the way.

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I think there's only 2 more hours left if we're going by EDT. But I think submitting an hour or two late isn't going to kill anybody.
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I'm bailing out. Trying to rush something usually never turns out well. Granted I'm a shitty writer, but I still got standards lol.

I'll probably submit this afterwards. i'm going back to work on something else.

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I wrote mine in a frenzy. Not good stuff. Still I'm happy to have this challenge because it will force me to finish a feature or two in 7 weeks! Thanks to Don and Pia.
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it will force me to finish a feature or two in 7 weeks!


Sometimes, I really hate you people. And, by "hate you", I mean "love you", but really hate your ability to burn through script pages.


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


Sometimes, I really hate you people. And, by "hate you", I mean "love you", but really hate your ability to burn through script pages.


It's a rare gift, lol... actually, it's more of a curse when your mind can never turn off.
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It's a rare gift, lol... actually, it's more of a curse when your mind can never turn off.


I beg to differ. It's a curse when your mind never shuts off, but you still have a hard time writing ANYTHING! With that in mind, I just submitted my 10 (11 and a half, actually. I didn't want to cut it off in the middle of a scene), but won't be able to review any until Tuesday. Still, when Tuesday comes, I hope to review them all. =)


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I'll do my best to read and comment on your 10 - or + pages. Looking forward to see what you all came up with.  


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I will be reading all the first tens...not sure I can get through all the completed features. We will see. When we will know how many people are 'in' on this challenge??
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Don't know Dena. Haven't added them up. For a while there I thought no one would partake so I started to tinker out of panic/duty, but now it looks like maybe quite a few will give it a shot.


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I'm trying to complete a feature right now so I stayed away from this distraction. But I'll do my best to review them all!!


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I just submitted my first ten or so pages. It's just gone 5am here so I think I made it in time for the deadline (is EDT New York time? if so I did).

I've never finished a feature before, so I'm hoping with the challenge aspect it might get me to finally step up and get that monkey off my back.

Plus, from what I can tell there will be plenty of encouragement or help offered if there comes a time when I may need a nudge in the right direction. And of course, if I can help anyone along the way, feel free to ask.

Good luck to all involved, and whilst I know it's all about finishing a feature and the 'taking part', I can't help but dream of one day getting my hands on a SimplyScripts mug.

Churs.

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My 5-10 is in. Would've like to get more down (I hand wrote the last two scenes at work), but it'll do for now. Hopefully life stays more or less out of the way. I've got enough of my idea nailed down to know I'd want to finish it with or without the challenge.

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I'm in... anonymously.

Looking forward to reading what others have put up. Thanks Don.


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Quoted from ArtyDoubleYou
I've never finished a feature before, so I'm hoping with the challenge aspect it might get me to finally step up and get that monkey off my back.


Awesome Arty! In six weeks then…you'll have your first!
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Mine is in. Anonymously although I don't know - I might out myself later. Let me think it over.
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Good luck to all who entered.  I'm on vacation for the next 6 weeks, desperately need a break, so I'm looking forward to reading what writers have come up with.
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A six week vacation Legion?? Da-amn lucky you are if you get six weeks!
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Yep, 6 weeks "vacation" (I used the quotations because I'm sitting on my backside for that time).  And I changed my username! (woo?) Fits, I think...

I wonder how many submitted to the challenge.  I count, through what people have said, at least 6 thus far, maybe more.  Looking forward to reading nonetheless.
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You know what, Lee?

I don't think I would have entered if it wasn't for you. I don't know you at all, but watching you blast out those scripts really inspired me.

I want to get to the point I can do my ten pages a day. Got so many ideas I think I could turn into great films....
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Quality is very hard when you push ten a day...I know it first hand...
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I can imagine.

Definitely need to improve my output though. About ten pages a YEAR is where I'm at, at the moment.
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You know what, Lee?

I don't think I would have entered if it wasn't for you. I don't know you at all, but watching you blast out those scripts really inspired me.

I want to get to the point I can do my ten pages a day. Got so many ideas I think I could turn into great films....


Thanks for the earnest words, Scar.  I appreciate the sentiment.

Always push yourself to achieve.  But be cautious not to burn yourself out like I have.  I'm done for a while, until those creative juices start flowing again.
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Sorry for the redundancy. I missed the 10 pages deadline should I just go ahead and submit the full script before August 15th?
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Sorry for the redundancy. I missed the 10 pages deadline should I just go ahead and submit the full script before August 15th?


Well, I would if I were you. This challenge continues till we write the entire script  7 weeks in total. There are, I gather, more relaxed rules with this than with the one week challenges.

Check with Pia - Moderator - otherwise known as 'Angry Bear' - you'll find a post of hers  on the top of page 6 of this same thread so you can PM her to make sure or contact Bert or Don (also Mod) - site admin. Look forward to reading yours if it goes through.  



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The goal of this challenge compared to the OWC is to write a feature length script in 7 weeks. If you missed the 10 pages after one week part, like I did, it's still okay to submit the whole feature by August 15th.  It should however fit the parameters of the challenge.

This challenge has also always in the past been meant to help each other write a feature. Asking for help if you get stuck later on with your story is totally fine.  


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Awesomesauce! I'm in. Thanks Angry Bear. Thanks LC, looking forward to reading yours too.
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So, how's everyone doing now that you've all had some feedback? Hopefully the feedback you received was helpful and you're all continuing on. I'm on page 21 which is behind 4 pages of where I wanted to be today. I'm not worried though. Still plenty of time.

Anyone out there needs help or anything. A kick in the butt or some pep talk? Let us know. Plenty of people willing to help here.  


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I think I've just finished my reviews of all the first tens. If I've missed yours, send me a message and I'll get to it. The detectives amongst you should now be able to work out which is my script, but I plan to officially reveal myself on Friday anyway so I can respond to the comments.

As for the script, I haven't done any more than the ten pages that are up. I know the next few scenes though so I should be able to crack on soon enough.

My plan is to get it to 30 pages by Sunday. I have four days off from tomorrow, so in theory five pages a day should be doable. But I do get pretty bad writers block so I know I could struggle, and this is where I'd like to put in a call for help...

If one of you (if anyone remembers) could simply request my script update on Sunday. Sometime later in the day would be better, also taking into account time differences (I'm in England, currently 4:50am). You wouldn't need to read the 30 pages or anything, just a quick check to make sure I'm there. But if you request it and I haven't made it, you have my permission to call me out/publicly humiliate me, so the whole world knows I suck at this. That should be motivation enough to get there.

Churs all.

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Did you make the deadline for the first 10?


Nope.

I have mine plotted out though.


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Quoted from ArtyDoubleYou
but I plan to officially reveal myself on Friday


I do hope you just mean which script you wrote. I get these pictures in my head, you see.

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  I have mine plotted out though.


See, I'm still doing that in my head. I could just wing it and keep adding scenes but I'm concerned it'll get a bit muddy. Do most of you outline the entire thing first?

And, very funny Ren. I also plan on 'revealing' myself soon.  



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I do hope you just mean which script you wrote. I get these pictures in my head, you see.

R


Well, I wasn't planning to reveal myself in such a way as you may be thinking. But I might consider it, you know, if it gets me ahead in this biz.

I hope the pictures in your head are doing me justice though. I'm not completely ugly. That's what my mum says anyway.
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My mum says that too. About me, I mean. Well, I think she means me. I certainly hope so.

Would revealing yourself get you ahead in the biz? Is this how McG and Brett Ratner get to keep working? I think we should be told.

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See, I'm still doing that in my head. I could just wing it and keep adding scenes but I'm concerned it'll get a bit muddy. Do most of you outline the entire thing first?

I didn't used to, but nowadays I do. I find the scripts easier to write as a result, but also much better. I'm actually starting to like the plotting better than the actual writing of the script itself.  


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Would revealing yourself get you ahead in the biz?



No. Not in my case anyway. Definitely a hindrance. I like to think it wouldn't be so bad that they'd have to put a hit out on me, but I'm not willing to take that chance.

Yet.
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I didn't used to, but nowadays I do. I find the scripts easier to write as a result, but also much better. I'm actually starting to like the plotting better than the actual writing of the script itself.  


Thanks Pia. Good to know.


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Nope.

I have mine plotted out though.


Well, I'm interested in seeing what you come up with.

That one feature you sent me a while back when I was looking for stuff to read wasn't my cup of joe, but damn your character development was fucking IMPRESSIVE.  I don't think I ever took a liking to a character as fast I did with the one you created.  You really breathed life into her.  I'm still amazed.

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Pia always amazes me.  She rocks the fucking house.  SWEDE POWER!!!!!
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I plan to officially reveal myself on Friday anyway so I can respond to the comments.


Everyone already knows which script I wrote, lol.  

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I thought you had two in there Lee - mind you I noticed another script missing from the original tally, apart from Led's. And btw, I'm yet to have it confirmed by you, if I was right?


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Everyone already knows which script I wrote, lol.  

-Lee


I'm not sure I know??? Have I missed something?


Anyway, I'm putting out a small cry for help...

I'm currently writing a fight scene, something that I've never done before, so at the moment I'm pretty much just winging it. But I was wondering if there are any good fight scenes somewhere here on these boards, or that you know of in any pro scripts? I'd like to take a look at how others tackle them and maybe pick up a few hints or tips along the way.

So far, my fight has taken up about three pages, and still isn't quite done yet. I have a pretty sweet finishing move though, one I doubt you'd see it in WWE anyway.

Well, if you know of any such scripts and you can, please direct me to them or send them over to me at... artywhale(at)hotmail.co.uk. It would be most appreciated.
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I thought you had two in there Lee - mind you I noticed another script missing from the original tally, apart from Led's. And btw, I'm yet to have it confirmed by you, if I was right?


I only entered one.  I was a little surprised when you mentioned a second, lol.  


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I'm not sure I know??? Have I missed something?


Anyway, I'm putting out a small cry for help...

I'm currently writing a fight scene, something that I've never done before, so at the moment I'm pretty much just winging it. But I was wondering if there are any good fight scenes somewhere here on these boards, or that you know of in any pro scripts? I'd like to take a look at how others tackle them and maybe pick up a few hints or tips along the way.

So far, my fight has taken up about three pages, and still isn't quite done yet. I have a pretty sweet finishing move though, one I doubt you'd see it in WWE anyway.

Well, if you know of any such scripts and you can, please direct me to them or send them over to me at... artywhale(at)hotmail.co.uk. It would be most appreciated.


I have a very distinctive writing style.  

I've sent you a PM.  No need to bump my own stuff.
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I only entered one.  I was a little surprised when you mentioned a second, lol.  


Maybe you wrote one in your sleep... you do tend to churn them out.  



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Maybe you wrote one in your sleep... you do tend to churn them out.  



Never rule out that possibility, haha.  I'm half-asleep most of the time.
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Did I read yuors, Lee?  I didn't even realize you changed your name and avatar.  Interesting...
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Were you celebrating, Jeff?  

Lee, I have no idea which one you wrote. I'm planning on reading all. Just going up the list from the bottom. I see a few have been removed though.

Arty, are you looking for how to write action fight scenes or do you have a question about the fight scene itself?


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Did I read yuors, Lee?  I didn't even realize you changed your name and avatar.  Interesting...


You certainly read it.  Gave me some pretty great feedback too.  

Yep, new username and avatar, new me.  I was getting tired of "Leegion".
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Arty, are you looking for how to write action fight scenes or do you have a question about the fight scene itself?



How to actually write them.

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How to actually write them.

Ok. What kind of fight? Fist fight? Gun? Martial arts?...


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Ok. What kind of fight? Fist fight? Gun? Martial arts?...



That's a good question. The scene I'm currently writing is a straight up fist fight, though there will be guns, and perhaps a bit of martial arts on the way as well.

So examples of each would be great thanks.
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PM me your email and I'll send you some scripts that might help.  


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What's up?

I'm through with all the opening pages. I think so. I would have liked to read all of them. Every opening had substance between the lines. Not even once I thought: What's that meant to be?
Maybe, it's because of the feature aspect, the writers' home port. I also didn't expect such a variety of stuffs. There are some scripts which are far away from the parameters by now. Nevertheless, I think those ones had a good quality too. On the other hand, there were some good scripts which are very near to their generic standard and should go some steps the other way imo.

Well, (as some might have guessed) mine is that lottery thing. I have some new basic conditions for my script. I hope you come around to discuss if it works and if the audience is willing to accept those conditions, so that the lottery can start. I'll comment them soon in the thread.

Not to forget at this point: thanks Don and also the moderators who care about the challenge.



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I think I've just finished my reviews of all the first tens. If I've missed yours, send me a message and I'll get to it. The detectives amongst you should now be able to work out which is my script, but I plan to officially reveal myself on Friday anyway so I can respond to the comments.

As for the script, I haven't done any more than the ten pages that are up. I know the next few scenes though so I should be able to crack on soon enough.

My plan is to get it to 30 pages by Sunday. I have four days off from tomorrow, so in theory five pages a day should be doable. But I do get pretty bad writers block so I know I could struggle, and this is where I'd like to put in a call for help...

If one of you (if anyone remembers) could simply request my script update on Sunday. Sometime later in the day would be better, also taking into account time differences (I'm in England, currently 4:50am). You wouldn't need to read the 30 pages or anything, just a quick check to make sure I'm there. But if you request it and I haven't made it, you have my permission to call me out/publicly humiliate me, so the whole world knows I suck at this. That should be motivation enough to get there.

Churs all.

Arty.


Ok it's Sunday. I'm checking up on you and your progress. I demand the 30 pages or the permission whichever is ready.

That's about Arty, as for me, I haven't managed to come up with a concept yet, and no don't get too comfortable, I may still beat you to first place. I hold the proud record of 10 pages within the last half hour before some deadline.

Something else. Can you guys hammer me with dozens of examples of movies where the lead is racing against the clock to do something. He doesn't have to be in his 50's. I just want the clock thingy figured out.

Cheers

P.S. Pia should make a choclate cake for the winner.
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Ok it's Sunday. I'm checking up on you and your progress. I demand the 30 pages or the permission whichever is ready.

That's about Arty, as for me, I haven't managed to come up with a concept yet, and no don't get too comfortable, I may still beat you to first place. I hold the proud record of 10 pages within the last half hour before some deadline.

Something else. Can you guys hammer me with dozens of examples of movies where the lead is racing against the clock to do something. He doesn't have to be in his 50's. I just want the clock thingy figured out. ...


Ha, this is really funny. Arty, you are being held accountable.  

A couple of links for you realx. There are others but this will give you an idea hopefully.

http://screen.answers.com/movies/7-best-quot-race-against-the-clock-quot-movies
http://www.mrqe.com/lists/race.....nst-the-clock-movies





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It's only a little after 3pm here, and I did say later in the day... But I'm currently just about to hit page 28, think it's helping that I'm currently working on a couple of dialogue heavy scenes at the mo, they sure do take up more of the page.

By the time someone lifts that World Cup tonight, I will be on, or past, page 30 (unless something goes horrendously wrong). PM me your E-mail, and later I shall prove it.


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Something else. Can you guys hammer me with dozens of examples of movies where the lead is racing against the clock to do something. He doesn't have to be in his 50's. I just want the clock thingy figured out.



Off the top of my head...
Taken
12 Rounds
World War Z
Back to the Future
Speed
Mission Impossible 3 (I think)

I'm sure others will come up with plenty of extra ones too.
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It's only a little after 3pm here, and I did say later in the day... But I'm currently just about to hit page 28 ...


Well done Arty. I'm nowhere near that page count.



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Well done Arty. I'm nowhere near that page count.



Cheers, Lib.

I can recommend going the public announcement route like I did. It definitely meant I had to raise my game. I'd probably still be staring at page 10 if I hadn't.

But I know you've got plenty of researching to do, so I wouldn't panic just yet.

How's everyone else getting on out there?
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Threw down another 10 pages today, and after rewriting the first 10 completely, I'm at page 20, quickly approaching the end of the first act. I love act 2, it's time to relax, have a little fun with the story.

Still not sure how I'm going to finish this concept... I got the idea the day before deadline day and have been trying to figure out how to work it since then. I still don't know. As this is a very fresh idea (I often write my stories in my head for a long time before setting pen to paper) I'm hoping inspiration will come as I'm writing.
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I'm hoping to hit large 40 tonight.  But who knows.  


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I'm hoping to hit large 40 tonight.  But who knows.  


Fighting talk... makes me want to get stuck right back into the story to catch up. However, I bet Lee has already finished, so I may as well take my time.
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Thanks a bunch guys for the lists and the titles. It's coming to me now. It has to be a never-done-before concept -if this is even possible these days-.

Arty, since you bravely lived up to your words and wrote the pages, I will gladly read your first act and give you feedback if you want me to.
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I haven't quite got the 30 yet. I decided to have a little nap earlier, then when I woke up I found out the game kicks off an hour earlier than expected. I'm working on it now, but only need to get another 1 1/2 pages down.

I'd quite like to send it to someone just to prove I've done it though. But you certainly wouldn't need to read it just yet, not that I'd stop you should you so choose.

I've also found it's evolving a bit, there's a bit of mystery thrown in as well as it being an action thriller. Not sure how it's gonna play out in the end, but I'm just going with it for the time being.

Still, I'm feeling quite proud of myself for how it's going so far. Like I said before, I've never actually finished a feature, but I feel I'm on course to get to FADE OUT for the first time.
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I made it to my 30 pages during the game. Willing to prove it if anyone doubts me. But then, maybe I said that so you won't ask. Mind games.
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There is nothing to prove by writing ridiculously fast guys. There are still five weeks left. Give your story time to breath and make sure your plot is tight. Make sure every page has that TTP quality (Turn the page).

Wouldn't you rather have a script you can be proud of and possibly sell?


Good advice, Dena. Of course I like it cause I'm going at a snail's pace.  



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Something else. Can you guys hammer me with dozens of examples of movies where the lead is racing against the clock to do something. He doesn't have to be in his 50's. I just want the clock thingy figured out.


No Way Out (1987)

The "ticking clock" is where are protagonist has to take part in a cover-up at the Pentagon because his boss had an affair and accidently killed his mistress and to shift suspicion away from him the blame goes to another man the mistress was seeing. That mystery man is falsely accused of the killing and also accused of being a Soviet Spy. Nobody knows the other man's identuty except for the protag - he is the other man. So his "clock" involves several things:

*If he is accused of being a spy, he most likely will either be killed by Pritchard (the 'enforcer' for his boss) and/or discredited. So he has to sgift focus off him and onto his boss by making him have a connection to his mistress. It's computer printout from the 80s, so it takes some time...

* Speaking of 80s tech, a computer must sharpen the pixeld of a blurry photo (Polaroid) which will identify him. Again, this is the "identity" of the Spy "Yuri", which is a fabrication- but everyone has bought into the search for the "killer spy".

*Protag confides in a friend, says Yuri is a smokescreen and that he is the man in the photo. He needs more time to put blame on his boss. However, that friend can't handle the pressure and unkowingly confides in Pritchard, who kills him.

* Two eyewitnesses that seen our protag and Susamn mistress together tour the Pentagon. So while waiting for "evidence" he has to avoid being seen and/or caught. They get closer and closer---

*He has to save others who might be killed due to the cover-up.

And, of course, if you seen the movie, you know of the plot twist....which really gave an extra dimension to that ticking clock.

Otherfilms off the top of my head:
Escape From New York
Snake Plissken has 22hrs to save the President or die.

Commando
Ah-nold has a short amont of time to find his kidnapped daughter from a outsed dictator's private army.

Aliens
Bishop's countdown. 'You aren't just against nasty lizard-bugs, but against a nuclear meltdown too. Nuff said.

IIndependence Day.
Not just the inital alien attack, but also humanity's last stand at Area 51.


Star Wars : A New Hope
You know where.





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Quoted from Pale Yellow
There is nothing to prove by writing ridiculously fast guys. There are still five weeks left. Give your story time to breath and make sure your plot is tight. Make sure every page has that TTP quality (Turn the page).

Wouldn't you rather have a script you can be proud of and possibly sell?


I write 10 pages a day as standard. If I write less, then I'm slacking... which I have been recently due to other stuff going on in my life.

I don't see anything wrong with throwing down a first draft in a week or so, then using the remaining time to perfect it.
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I write 10 pages a day as standard. If I write less, then I'm slacking... which I have been recently due to other stuff going on in my life.

I don't see anything wrong with throwing down a first draft in a week or so, then using the remaining time to perfect it.


Exactly, writing the first draft as fast as you can is actually a good strategy. Been seeing the same advice in a couple of books and articles written by some seasoned writers. When you're in the jungle of the first draft all you have to do is RUN! Don't mind branches of weak dialogue and pale descriptions cutting your cheek. Don't panic when you see plot holes. Don't listen to the scary voices that this script is gonna suck. Just run, dodge, jump and close your ears till you're out in the clear. After that you can gear up an walks back in to slay those demons over and over till you're a bloody mess and you're the true and final king of your jungle.

However, it goes without saying, if you're the kind of writer that outline first, do take your time fleshing out  your concept. Make sure you got a rough first, second, and third act. Make sure your MC is the correct character to lead the story and he has the right flaw for the right conflict. But once you're one step after the "Fade in" sign, RUN, FORREST! RUN!
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I don't know why, but for some reason I can't just write. As in, I can't do a vomit draft as such. I really struggle to get words on a page, it's like I'm trying to write the perfect sentences and pick all the right words first go around. I can't seem to just go with it and let it flow. That's why me making the claim so someone could call me out about my 30 pages has been such a help for me. It's forced me to actually sit down and push through. And to be honest, it has worked.

But now I'm a third of the way through my script, with a third of the challenge time gone. Having a deadline is helping me no end.
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It's not a contest to see who can write the fastest. It's a challenge to write a feature in 7 weeks. Once the scripts get posted, it is understood that these are all pretty much first drafts. Then people will start reading. We get feedback and then the rewrites start. No one, will have a sellable script after 7 weeks, I don't think, but if someone does, I'll be sure impressed and happy for you.  

Me? Did I reach page 40? Nope. I lost the charger to my laptop.  


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I don't know why, but for some reason I can't just write. As in, I can't do a vomit draft as such. I really struggle to get words on a page, it's like I'm trying to write the perfect sentences and pick all the right words first go around. I can't seem to just go with it and let it flow. That's why me making the claim so someone could call me out about my 30 pages has been such a help for me. It's forced me to actually sit down and push through. And to be honest, it has worked.

But now I'm a third of the way through my script, with a third of the challenge time gone. Having a deadline is helping me no end.


Yeah, I like the thrill of a little competition too. Adds some extra flavour to things.

It doesn't have anything to do with who finishes fastest... although, personally, I don't think 10 pages a day is a lot to ask.

I wrote another 10 pages today and I'll probably get a few more done tonight. Currently at page 30. See you at the finish line.
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Yeah, I like the thrill of a little competition too. Adds some extra flavour to things.

It doesn't have anything to do with who finishes fastest... although, personally, I don't think 10 pages a day is a lot to ask.

I wrote another 10 pages today and I'll probably get a few more done tonight. Currently at page 30. See you at the finish line.


Already there, man.  Lol.  

Well, on draft 1.  
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Already there, man.  Lol.  

Well, on draft 1.  


You and I are going to have to have a little contest to see who can write the fastest vomit-draft feature one day. Maybe get Demento and any other writer up for a fast challenge involved too.

I wrote one in 8 days once... and I reckon, if pushed, I could do it in 4.
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You and I are going to have to have a little contest to see who can write the fastest vomit-draft feature one day. Maybe get Demento and any other writer up for a fast challenge involved too.

I wrote one in 8 days once... and I reckon, if pushed, I could do it in 4.


I'm up for a challenge.  I'm on break at the minute, but I'll be back full-time in Aug.  I'm focusing primarily on my 1+6WC for the next 5 weeks.
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I'm up for a challenge.  I'm on break at the minute, but I'll be back full-time in Aug.  I'm focusing primarily on my 1+6WC for the next 5 weeks.


Yeah, I'm busy too, and will be even in August. Perhaps September would be a good time. Also, to prevent any suspicion of cheating, we should include certain parameters that must be in the screenplay. Although you can rest assured that I won't cheat, I will do it for the thrill of it, it is better to have things in place to prevent suspicion.

Anyway, I better get writing. Well done on getting the vomit draft down already.
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Thanks man.  September's fine.  

I gotta continue reading.  But we have 5 weeks, so.
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I think I got the concept figured out. I wanted to think out of the box like you guys said. I think I'm way out of the box. The box looks so tiny now. However, the lead got people helping him. I don't know if this would ruin it. Maybe that kind of stories has a stronger impact when the lead is a lone wolf?

By the way, what's with the budget thing? Do I really need to worry what kind of budget my script needs?
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I wouldn't worry about budget if I were you. Unless you do totally crazy stuff, but if the story is great and a producer loves it, I'm sure the script can get rewritten to fit what they have in mind.

Mine is a revenge story. I worry however that the revenge is not the protag out for revenge, but rather someone wanting revenge on him.  


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I wouldn't worry about budget if I were you. Unless you do totally crazy stuff, but if the story is great and a producer loves it, I'm sure the script can get rewritten to fit what they have in mind.

Mine is a revenge story. I worry however that the revenge is not the protag out for revenge, but rather someone wanting revenge on him.  


I like your concept. Specially if the protag was a bad guy in the past and had it coming. Kinda make the audience root for the antagonist at first then later on when the villain goes over the top and the hero shows some real efforts toward redemption, the audience will switch sides, and the lead can go medieval on the bad guys' asses. Haha, just me imagining your own concept. How crazy is that!

My concept is way too crazy. And I love it. I need to put an outline real quick and get cracking.
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Was wondering if any of you folks could help me out with something that should probably be obvious. It relates to the 'sits, sat, sitting' debate on my thread.

Basically, I want to know which would be the correct sentence to use out of the following...

She lies still.

She lays still.

They both make sense to me, but I want it to be right for the American style I'm going for, like 'sat' wasn't the correct term in that respect.

I know it probably seems quite trivial, but I want to try and make sure I get it right. Plus the fact it hasn't stopped niggling at me since I wrote it a few hours back. I like the idea of perfection, and that comes in the smaller details as well as with the bigger picture.

It may not even matter, but you know, I hear self doubt can be a major trait in us writer types. Hope you understand where I'm coming from.



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Mine is a revenge story. I worry however that the revenge is not the protag out for revenge, but rather someone wanting revenge on him.  


Sort of like Oldboy?
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Sort of like Oldboy?

No. Nothing like Old Boy!  

As far as your question goes, you'd have to ask someone better at English than me. Seems like someone complained once when I used lay instead of lie though...

How's everyone doing, btw? I'm on page 45. I do have a partner now though.  It seems to be working which is a first for me.


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Arty, this one has nothing to do with U.S., U.K Aussie etc. It's all the same.

'She lies still' - there's no object involved.

Here's a link for you. Remember 'Lay Down Sally' was a song and it wouldn't have had quite the same ring of 'Lie Down Sally' even though the latter is correct.  

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/lay-versus-lie

And, Arty, perfection - good luck with that. First draft remember. Don't be so hard on yourself.

If your story is terrific no producer is going to pull you up cause your wrote 'lay' instead of 'lie'.


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Thanks ladies. I had 'lies' all along.

As for perfection, I know I won't achieve it first go around. But I feel that's part of the reason my writing speed suffers. I try so hard to get my sentences perfect on the first attempt, I can often spend hours stuck on the same line. It's a habit I don't seem to be able to break. Too much thinking, not enough doing. Like a bad protagonist I guess.

I'm currently on page 36, aiming for 45 by Sunday. Just wrote my first ever gun fight and about to break into my second fist fight that may or may not include a dash of martial arts. Exciting stuff if you ask me.
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It's a habit I don't seem to be able to break. Too much thinking, not enough doing. Like a bad protagonist I guess.


Or Hamlet

It's a habit you'll break by writing more features. And as annoying as it is until you break it, it also shows that you probably have the obsessive kind of brain that a writer tends to need!
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Or Hamlet

It's a habit you'll break by writing more features. And as annoying as it is until you break it, it also shows that you probably have the obsessive kind of brain that a writer tends to need!


The only thing I know about Hamlet is the line 'Alas poor Yorick, I knew him Haratio, a fellow of infinite jest'. That and I'm almost a hundred percent sure it's by ye olde Bill Shakespeare.

I do however appreciate your positive spin on my negative thoughts. You should work in PR or as a government spin doctor or something. Or be a clown using your gift to turn frowns upside down. Some people are scared of clowns. I'm not.
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I'm on page 45. I do have a partner now though.  It seems to be working which is a first for me.


Funny, you mention that. I enlisted Libby for a co-write as well, but not on this project.

I hope it don't interfere with her writing the OWC, but it's a great opportunity for both of us.  

Shawn.....><
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Funny, you mention that. I enlisted Libby for a co-write as well, but not on this project.

I hope it don't interfere with her writing the OWC, but it's a great opportunity for both of us.  

Shawn.....><


Very cool to see, Shawn and Libby! Co-writing is very hard, IMO. It's good to have someone to discuss the story with, but it can easier sometimes to do things your own way too. We'll see how it turns out.

Good luck to you two!

PS. I should have your notes this weekend.  

I've hit page 51 today, btw, in case anyone wants to discuss their story or just needs a push or kick in the ass.  



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Heh all, just chiming in.

This is a great challenge. There's a lot of good feedback. The entries have been pretty exciting and varied.

I can't wait until the longer versions hit. Are you guys going to post your pages in progress or wait until the deadline?

I'm sitting at 58 pages right now. I feel like I have all the beats mapped out too. I'm already itching to see what you guys think.

Good luck everyone.  Keep at it.


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Quoted from Last Fountain

This is a great challenge. There's a lot of good feedback. The entries have been pretty exciting and varied.

I read all the 1 week entries. I feel like maybe I didn't give the best comments, but...


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I can't wait until the longer versions hit. Are you guys going to post your pages in progress or wait until the deadline?
I'll most likely try to read all the entries if time allows and hopefully some of the writers will return the read. I will probably have mine up at Dropbox, but not necesarily posted at SS. I have to think about it.


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I'm sitting at 58 pages right now. I feel like I have all the beats mapped out too. I'm already itching to see what you guys think.

Excellent! Good for you!  


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Very cool to see, Shawn and Libby! Co-writing is very hard.

Good luck to you two!

PS. I should have your notes this weekend.  


Libby is so totally cool to work with. She completely gets my style.

To be honest, it surprises me how easy it is to work with her.

Libby's ideas are right on and instead of being taken back by some of my terrible writing, she complements it with excellent observations and input.

The project we're working on can pay off in spades for both of us.

And I couldn't be happier working on it with her.

Btw...I can't wait to read your notes, Pia. You're such a great friend. I know you're busy, so thank you for working on Dirty. I owe you, my friend.  

Shawn.....><


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I wrote 20 pages yesterday to reach page 67. Hoping to have finished by Monday. Only a vomit draft though... can't call it a first draft yet. There is some stuff I need to change and manoeuvre, but I reckon that I should have a fairly decent first draft before next weekend.
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I can't wait until the longer versions hit. Are you guys going to post your pages in progress or wait until the deadline?


After reading a few, I made a decision to hold off on comments due to the knowledge that every entry is a rough ten pager that may not reflect on a lot of the story, logline or might not even have a main character. When I noticed my peers -especially the usual suspects-even having a bicker war on one script that wasn't even my own, ...this actually enforced my decision.

Even my outline didn't cover 90% of my entry/story and characters because at the time I still had 80 pages at least to go. I'm debating whether or not to repost the new pages or wait until the draft is done and drop it in August. It will most likely be the latter.


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Wow. I was able to crank out 20 pages earlier today. I'm sitting at 78 now.

Does anyone else hit strides like that? I find once my script is mapped and I hit that middle chunk pages usually flow. Sometimes it's a steady flow of 5 pages here and there. Maybe I take too much time developing the start and end. I wonder how others progress.

It feels good when you vomit up that much at once during the 1st draft though. Rewriting is always the larger pain in my ass.

good luck all


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AWESOME! Good for you!  

I'm on page 57. Slow going in the middle and I'm meandering. I had this thing plotted out, but I can't say I followed it exactly. I'm still semi sure where I'm going though, so I'm hoping to continue to do 5 ppd. I'm shooting for the end by Sunday a week from now, then tweak it the rest of the time.  


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Just hit page 19 on the first draft (vomit's already finished, as stated).  I'm going at a freaking snail's pace right now, lol.  Still got 5 weeks to finish it, give or take a day.  Just smoothing out the rough edges of the vomit.

Changed quite a bit of the story, reworked all of the dialogue.  First words are still "1995" but there is a page and a half before that call chimes.  

First 10 pages of the vomit, as seen on the boards, have been beefed up by an intro sequence, yet contained within 8 pages.  

Taking my time with this is helping the narrative flow more naturally.  
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I wrote 12 yesterday to take me to 79. Only the very end sequence to write now. Should see me finish the vomit today.

I never bother with treatments before I write a story. I never map beats or anything like that. When a youth, my teachers would try to get me to write story plans.... but I never could get along doing it like that. Whenever I try, I never, ever stick to it... so the day or two it takes to write a treatment is wasted.

I do like to write treatments after the vomit draft though, as this enables me to see far more clearly what is and what isn't working.
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  Still got 5 weeks to finish it, give or take a day.    



Four weeks, isn't it? I'd prefer five with the way my second act is coming along, as in, it's not moving very well so far. I'm on page 40, but should be able to make the 45 I hoped for today, and maybe even hit 50 at a push.

Now my problem is having enough scenes to take me up to at least 90 pages altogether. Yesterday I made notes of all the scenes I know are to come, and at a conservative estimate I'm not even sure I'll hit 80 by the end.

It's certainly a bit of a worry at the moment. I could go for a few dialogue heavy scenes, as they eat up pages, but I'd rather fill it with some form of action. Having done a statistics report on final draft, I have 69% action and 25% dialogue, and I like those percentages.

But then, I guess this is part of the fun. Working stuff out and being able to push through in order to make a deadline. It's both exciting and frustrating at the same time. Maybe I'll just throw in a ten page car chase and fill it with random explosions and fruit carts being knocked over and conveniently placed ramps allowing for huge jumps. You know, just cos.
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I'm struggling.

Only at page 26 and I'm currently producing a film alongside the day job.

Not going to happen, I think.
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Four weeks, isn't it? I'd prefer five with the way my second act is coming along, as in, it's not moving very well so far. I'm on page 40, but should be able to make the 45 I hoped for today, and maybe even hit 50 at a push.

Now my problem is having enough scenes to take me up to at least 90 pages altogether. Yesterday I made notes of all the scenes I know are to come, and at a conservative estimate I'm not even sure I'll hit 80 by the end.

It's certainly a bit of a worry at the moment. I could go for a few dialogue heavy scenes, as they eat up pages, but I'd rather fill it with some form of action. Having done a statistics report on final draft, I have 69% action and 25% dialogue, and I like those percentages.

But then, I guess this is part of the fun. Working stuff out and being able to push through in order to make a deadline. It's both exciting and frustrating at the same time. Maybe I'll just throw in a ten page car chase and fill it with random explosions and fruit carts being knocked over and conveniently placed ramps allowing for huge jumps. You know, just cos.


80 pages is fine... I wouldn't worry about it. An 80 page script could film at 100 minutes. I've finished vomit drafts at 67 pages before, particularly thrillers and horrors as they tend to run to shorter page lengths anyway.

But... 80 could also be an indicator that you don't have enough story. Just write through till the end, don't think about it. Then figure out what to do afterwards. The more worrying you do, the less writing you do. There will always be ways you can beef up the story later.
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80 pages is fine... I wouldn't worry about it. An 80 page script could film at 100 minutes. I've finished vomit drafts at 67 pages before, particularly thrillers and horrors as they tend to run to shorter page lengths anyway.

But... 80 could also be an indicator that you don't have enough story. Just write through till the end, don't think about it. Then figure out what to do afterwards. The more worrying you do, the less writing you do. There will always be ways you can beef up the story later.


I think I've figured out a way to beef it up a bit. I'm going to add more for the antagonist, making him more active and giving him his own set of problems. Originally I planned to have him mainly be a voice on the phone, but characters are supposedly 'actor bait' and who wants to play a voice on the phone when you can go around shooting stuff and killing people with your bare hands? It also adds a little backstory for him, including his motivation/s. Plus we get to see how badass he can really be and therefore what the protag will be up against in the end.

Seems so obvious now.
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I'm struggling. Only at page 26 and I'm currently producing a film alongside the day job. Not going to happen, I think.


Rick, I know how you feel. I'm going slowly as well. It can be tough juggling a bunch of other things at the same time. Just keep steadily working on it is my advice - use the deadline to perhaps get more done than you normally would and you never know, you still might make it.

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Four weeks, isn't it? I'd prefer five with the way my second act is coming along, as in, it's not moving very well so far. I'm on page 40, but should be able to make the 45 I hoped for today, and maybe even hit 50 at a push.

Now my problem is having enough scenes to take me up to at least 90 pages altogether. Yesterday I made notes of all the scenes I know are to come, and at a conservative estimate I'm not even sure I'll hit 80 by the end.

It's certainly a bit of a worry at the moment. I could go for a few dialogue heavy scenes, as they eat up pages, but I'd rather fill it with some form of action. Having done a statistics report on final draft, I have 69% action and 25% dialogue, and I like those percentages.

But then, I guess this is part of the fun. Working stuff out and being able to push through in order to make a deadline. It's both exciting and frustrating at the same time. Maybe I'll just throw in a ten page car chase and fill it with random explosions and fruit carts being knocked over and conveniently placed ramps allowing for huge jumps. You know, just cos.


I'd not worry about the length of the script.  I usually, these days, go for anything in between 80-85 pages.  My vomit draft clocks in at 89 pages, but as it stands, at 26 pages now, I've surpassed page 35 of the trash version.  By the time this ends, it may not even hit 85 pages.  It'll likely settle in the 78-81 page region.
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I'd not worry about the length of the script. I usually, these days, go for anything in between 80-85 pages.  My vomit draft clocks in at 89 pages, but as it stands, at 26 pages now, I've surpassed page 35 of the trash version. By the time this ends, it may not even hit 85 pages. It'll likely settle in the 78-81 page region.


I'm actually no longer too worried. I've hit the 45 pages that I hoped for by today, and with the added bad guy stuff, I feel it will hit the mid/high 80's, and maybe even the 90 I wanted.

Plus, there is quite a bit of action in there, so I'm guessing if it were ever translated to screen, it would be over the one page per minute anyway.

I'm having quite a bit of fun with it too. I've written my first fist fight, my first fight involving martial arts, my first gun fight (or 'fight' where guns are involved) and just recently, my first sex scene.

A lot of firsts going down for me, and I'm feeling pretty confident I can get to my most important first as well... FADE OUT.

I'm not 100% sure who set up this challenge, I'm assuming it was between Pia and Don, but I just wanted to say thanks for providing the inspiration I needed to get back in the writing zone. Whilst it certainly is challenging, I'm having an absolute blast.

Thanks.

And that also goes to those who have helped and encouraged me along the way too.

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I'm actually no longer too worried. I've hit the 45 pages that I hoped for by today, and with the added bad guy stuff, I feel it will hit the mid/high 80's, and maybe even the 90 I wanted.

Plus, there is quite a bit of action in there, so I'm guessing if it were ever translated to screen, it would be over the one page per minute anyway.

I'm having quite a bit of fun with it too. I've written my first fist fight, my first fight involving martial arts, my first gun fight (or 'fight' where guns are involved) and just recently, my first sex scene.

A lot of firsts going down for me, and I'm feeling pretty confident I can get to my most important first as well... FADE OUT.

I'm not 100% sure who set up this challenge, I'm assuming it was between Pia and Don, but I just wanted to say thanks for providing the inspiration I needed to get back in the writing zone. Whilst it certainly is challenging, I'm having an absolute blast.

Thanks.

And that also goes to those who have helped and encouraged me along the way too.

Churs.


You wrote a sex scene?  I tried that once, it was awkward.  I didn't know what I was doing and it really didn't go so well.

That's writing a sex scene, btw.  Just in case someone thought otherwise.

I'll stick to action, dragon dogfights and explosions, lol.
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Yep, wrote a sex scene. It's essentially half a page of the word 'thrust'. Real sexy.

Thinking about writing a fourth '50 shades of grey' after this.

Sex sells and that.
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As for me, I "thought" I had the concept figured a couple days ago. Was supposed to write an outline, then as I juggled the story in my mind it started to sound a lot like a movie I saw even if it's different in so many ways. It was also too complicated for me to write a first draft within the given time frame. Then I was torn between old concepts I thought about before where a lead in his 50's could easily fit. They all had the ticking clock device already. But some I dismissed because I felt a lead in his 50's might be a bit out of place, some because the ticking clock wasn't really a ticking clock, others because I imagined the final product will have scenes very similar to what has been done before the only difference will be the character motivation. Long story short, I wasted a lot of time doing a lot of thinking and no writing.

*Picture me as disappointed as a man who had all the right numbers in his lottery ticket except for the last one*

But I found a new concept that seems fresh and simple enough for me to write before the deadline. Sounds promising, right? I won't do the same mistake again and juggle it in my mind, no sir. I will just write @#!$% and whenever that @!@#$ inner critic starts talking inside my head:"This has already been done. You don't have enough story for a feature. What would you do in the second act?" I will just use the old childish trick:"LALALALALA! I'm not listening I'm writing. The keyboard keys are too loud I can't hear you talking!" Hopefully it will work.
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I tried that once, it was awkward.  I didn't know what I was doing and it really didn't go so well. That's writing a sex scene, btw.  Just in case someone thought otherwise. ...


That's exactly what I thought.  


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... But I found a new concept that seems fresh and simple enough for me to write before the deadline. Sounds promising, right? I won't do the same mistake again and juggle it in my mind, no sir. I will just write @#!$% and whenever that @!@#$ inner critic starts talking inside my head:"This has already been done. You don't have enough story for a feature. What would you do in the second act?" I will just use the old childish trick:"LALALALALA! I'm not listening I'm writing. The keyboard keys are too loud I can't hear you talking!" Hopefully it will work.


Very funny and so true.   That's a writer for you. I relate wholeheartedly. Just keep getting something down on the page. That's what I'm trying to do - you know, that 'it'll write itself' thing. Yeah, right. Here's hoping.



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Yep, wrote a sex scene. It's essentially half a page of the word 'thrust'. Real sexy.


Your problem may be is that you wrote a "sex" scene.

Sounds like a high school VD video.

Why not write a fuck scene instead. There is a difference between sex and fucking, you know.

When engaging in sex, one may find themselves "thrusting"...

When fucking, you slam, you pin, you bite, you taste, you penetrate, you grasp, you gain position, you lose your mind.

Or you can write a sex scene, and thrust.

Depends on what you want us to see. If it's just sex, please, just leave the light off.  

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There is a difference between sex and F**king, you know.


Are you sure about this?

Dirty.


Quoted from Ledbetter
one may find themselves "thrusting"...


One may indeed. One? Isn't someone else supposed to be there as well?

I've been known to thrust when fencing.
Not the prissy thing with the masks and all that. I 'thrust' the wood into the hole. Oh stop it.

Enough of this banter. I'm off to play with my marbles.

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Quoted from Ledbetter


Your problem may be is that you wrote a "sex" scene.

Sounds like a high school VD video.

Why not write a fuck scene instead. There is a difference between sex and fucking, you know.

When engaging in sex, one may find themselves "thrusting"...

When fucking, you slam, you pin, you bite, you taste, you penetrate, you grasp, you gain position, you lose your mind.

Or you can write a sex scene, and thrust.

Depends on what you want us to see. If it's just sex, please, just leave the light off.  

Shawn.....><



It is actually more of a f@#k scene, a quick one over the kitchen sink. Just thought it was more appropriate to call it a sex scene on here. While I have used thrust more then I would like, it does mention 'harder and faster' and if I remember right, the words 'deeper' and 'penetration' come up too. Not to mention skin 'thwacking' against skin and gritted teeth and moans and groans.

So far I'm happy with it, but when I go over it I'll probably switch it up a bit. It is a good indicator of the character of the man who's doing the deed. He's pretty horrible, and for want of a better expression, it comes with a surprise ending.

At the moment I'm putting this down as good publicity, get the people talking about what I've written, make them want to dip in. What's not to like about sex and violence in a story, eh?
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if I remember right, the words 'deeper' and 'penetration' come up too.

I hope the word penetration was in dialogue, because it's certainly not something that we will see, unless you're writing porn.  


I didn't get anything done at all today on my script.  


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I didn't get anything done at all today on my script.


I'm not sure you should say this just after you mention porn. People may get the wrong idea.

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Ookay. Finally finished up some other stuff. Sitting down to page 11
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Chime.

Just finished the first draft. Or vomit draft, as per popular term. I'm sitting at 99 pages. Rewriting commences.

I'm looking forward to the feedback process as well. I find the, dare I say, more controversial commentators like Dustin and  DreamScale very helpful.  Love it or hate it you know instantly how they feel.  I really appreciate their no bullshit points of view. I'm not trying to brown nose, it just seems sometimes they get a lot of flack. Even if they've never really liked my stuff, their comments really helped me, personally.

I just had to put that out there. Especially after I read another debate between you guys. Both of you call it like it is. Now, play nice, kids.

that said, all feedback from all users is so helpful to the writing process.  I'm glad I found this site. These challenges give a good push to focus and an excuse to just write.

good luck all... I really look forward to reading all your features.


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Vomit draft finished at 93 pages. Treatment done and final direction figured out. I'll start writing tomorrow and should have a first draft finished by the weekend.

After that I can get back to looking hard at the Smackhead script I'll be filming in September.
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Finished my first draft... comes in at 74 pages.  I'm happy with it, even though it's a little shorter than I originally intended it to be.  74 pages is okay though, it's the shortest script I've ever written, but it's tight and very good for me.  I'll submit it on deadline week.  Vomit draft clocks in at 89 pages, just in case you wanted to know.

Now to actually vacate during my vacation, feet up, Netflix on 360, Prison Break, Dexter, Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad, all shows I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE and a whole load of ice cream.

See you folks when I'm 80lbs heavier and 80% less dignified.  lol.
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Watch Sons of Anarchy first.
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Watch Sons of Anarchy first.


Increase your page length first!     74 pages is a bad sign, my friend.
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agreed, try another re-write and at least get it to 80.
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Ughghghghghghgh... I've been on a long neverending vacation and now I'm so behind that thinking to give up.
I'm so sorry.

Maybe I won't, let's see. The thing is - I've been working on this other script for a while and it's been in the process of a rewrite. Then my budy reader read it and I'm kind of thinking to finish with that one first. Unfortunately for me, I can't multitask. It's either this one or that.

I'm planning to post it on SS and ask for read exchanges. It's a horror by the way and a thriller. I just have to read it one last time...

And about these 10 - I'll try my best. The script is so unlucky - for some reason I never get to write it. Maybe it was not meant to be written.
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I think I’m in the same boat as quite a few peeps here, or at least… some, in regards to getting this script up and running/finished.

I got about 40 pages in, scrapped 10 because; well… they were too bizarre. Wrote in to about 50 pages again, then after reading it through realized that my protag is nowhere in sight and, I’ve introduced more characters than a Cirque du Soleil, plus I’ve only killed off one person so far, oh yes… there will be blood! LOL, or maybe not,  but definitely smoke and fire billowing out of a 50 foot axe wielding Tinman… wink, wink n’ sh!t…

Now, to add insult to injury, I had this ridiculous idea for another script, thought I’d pick up my guitar and write one song for it, just one - kind of like an inspiring soundtrack if you will – but that didn’t go as planned, cause now I’m up to 18 tracks and I’m trying desperately to mix/master them in FL Studio every night as if my life depended on it for no apparent reason, including creating some artwork conception in Photoshop, but I still haven’t even started THAT freakin’ script yet! Not sure where this one will all go, but whatever…

I think the next book I’ll dig into will be about ‘Time Management’ or better yet – how about another ‘How to write a screenplay’ book. Considering the premise of the script challenge, I think that would be fitting. Who knows, maybe I’ll get a burst of creativity to finish off this feature, but it’s not looking too promising.

Kudos to those who finish a script for this challenge…
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Try that How NOT to write a screenplay book by erm... hang on, Denny Flinn. It helps enormously. I tried Robert McKee's Story again recently, and some of it's good, but most of it bored the arse off me.

I also recommend reading scripts of films you like. You pick up phrasings and tones and see how it's done. You know when it's good and what worked in the film already.

I would crow about how well my own is going. But I'd be lying. And even if I wasn't, it would seem unmannerly. Twould not do.

Best of luck.

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quote AsfarasSiam "... I had this ridiculous idea for another script, thought I’d pick up my guitar and write one song for it, just one - kind of like an inspiring soundtrack if you will – but that didn’t go as planned, cause now I’m up to 18 tracks and I’m trying desperately to mix/master them in FL Studio every night as if my life depended on it for no apparent reason..."

You are writing and recording music! That's wonderful! if the scripts are inspiring your music, that's great but one thing is not more important than the other -- creativity is precious, work on what gives you the most joy
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I'm still feeling quite confident. I'm currently on page 50 and I'm hoping to make it to, or as close as I can to, page 60 by tonight.

Usually I'd be able to get it done over the weekend, but I've got a mate over from Oz who I haven't seen in over ten years, so tomorrow will be a day spent at the pub. Sunday will inevitably be a write off. Monday and Tuesday too probably.

I'm not much of a drinker these days, but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do I suppose. And it is pretty sunny here, so at least I might get a tan to compliment my hangover of doom.

Swings and roundabouts.
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Remember guys/girls, this isn't a contest and if you do get stuck, usually that happens in act 2, feel free to ask questions here about your story. maybe we can help out.

I'm hoping to have my first draft, aka the vomit draft finished by Sunday. I didn't get anything done yesterday. Started out with me hauling two garbage bags and other stuff to bring to work through the garage to my car. I couldn't see where I was stepping and ended up falling done the step onto the concrete floor. I'm lucky I didn't break anything, but I sprained my ankle. Then I laid sod in the afternoon. Dumb idea in Florida in the afternoon in July! I almost died of heat exhaustion. A tough physical day for me that left me without reaching any writing goals. Good thing there's beer though.  


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Increase your page length first!     74 pages is a bad sign, my friend.


I understand that.  It reads as if it's 30 pages, literally a breeze.  I've not edited it yet though.  I'll leave that until deadline week.  More than likely I'll add something to take it to 78-80 pages.

The reason it's shorter than the vomit is because I removed a lot of the cliche BS that plagued the opening 10 on the forums.  Like the docks being close, the cop (Ramirez) confronting Swanson about running a red light, the ENTIRE airport sequence.

Not to worry, I'll find something to pad it out.  Maybe another flashback (as that shows the bulk of the story) or a second car chase, maybe a brawl between Swanson and Newman/Swanson and Petrovic.
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You are writing and recording music! That's wonderful! if the scripts are inspiring your music, that's great but one thing is not more important than the other -- creativity is precious, work on what gives you the most joy


Hi Catherine,

Yes, I agree. I should pick one or the other, not pick music over screenwriting that is, just focus on one at a time so I don’t feel so overwhelmed. These OWC’s, Feature Length challenges, etc.  Actually do get the best of my time in a lot of ways, and I think taking it on in the summer months is just begging to fail, simply because there’s soooo much going on. Time will tell how it works out over here, thanks for the feedback.

As well, not sure if you, or whoever has a script on the go for the challenge, but if so, best of luck!
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I understand that.  It reads as if it's 30 pages, literally a breeze.  I've not edited it yet though.  I'll leave that until deadline week.  More than likely I'll add something to take it to 78-80 pages.

The reason it's shorter than the vomit is because I removed a lot of the cliche BS that plagued the opening 10 on the forums.  Like the docks being close, the cop (Ramirez) confronting Swanson about running a red light, the ENTIRE airport sequence.

Not to worry, I'll find something to pad it out.  Maybe another flashback (as that shows the bulk of the story) or a second car chase, maybe a brawl between Swanson and Newman/Swanson and Petrovic.


Do what I've done, add more for the antagonist. Originally I planned to only have him as a voice on the phone, now I've given him more of a role. Only written two extra scenes so far, but I've added four pages. Plus, I've got a few more to fit in with him so I could end with an extra eight/ten pages total. It doesn't appear to have harmed the story either (or at least I don't think it has, time will tell).

But maybe you've already got a bigger role for him, though it did seem like your antag might mainly be a voice on a phone too.
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Not to worry, I'll find something to pad it out.  Maybe another flashback (as that shows the bulk of the story) or a second car chase, maybe a brawl  

IMHO, it's always easier to trim than to "pad". Just adding pages in order to reach a certain page count, can be detrimental to your script unless you actually "pad" it with vital stuff for the story itself. If it's not vital to the story, people can tell and get bored, because it adds little or nothing to the story. It's just fluff.

If you use FD you can use the Loose version in your formatting. That might lengthen your script 5 pages without changing the script itself.  


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Try that How NOT to write a screenplay book by erm... hang on, Denny Flinn. It helps enormously…


Hey Ren,

Thanks for that, I did a search on it (Denny Flinn) and it looks to have some pretty good reviews, I’ll try to find a copy kicking around the net later on. One that I bought many moons ago that I highly recommend is ‘Psychology for Screenwriters’ by William Indick. It helps immensely with storytelling, and is literally packed with information for developing 3D characters.  Now, I just need a way to lose the consistent psychedelic rhetoric in my tales and I’ll be good to go, maybe…
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Do what I've done, add more for the antagonist. Originally I planned to only have him as a voice on the phone, now I've given him more of a role. Only written two extra scenes so far, but I've added four pages. Plus, I've got a few more to fit in with him so I could end with an extra eight/ten pages total. It doesn't appear to have harmed the story either (or at least I don't think it has, time will tell).

But maybe you've already got a bigger role for him, though it did seem like your antag might mainly be a voice on a phone too.


Definitely got a bigger role for Petrovic.  But I do like what you're saying.  I could make an extra call, extend a conversation or show more of the kidnapped family...


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IMHO, it's always easier to trim than to "pad". Just adding pages in order to reach a certain page count, can be detrimental to your script unless you actually "pad" it with vital stuff for the story itself. If it's not vital to the story, people can tell and get bored, because it adds little or nothing to the story. It's just fluff.

If you use FD you can use the Loose version in your formatting. That might lengthen your script 5 pages without changing the script itself.  


Hence its 74-page length.  Zero padding as it stands.  Every scene vital to the story.  That's why I lopped off 15 pages from the 89-page vomit.  I could extend a scene, add a little more action or some dialogue.  But there's not much else I could add as the story exhausts itself in those 74-pages.  You pretty much know everything by 65.
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That as may well be Lee... but you're still going to need to add some more 'vital' scenes to make a whole script.
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That as may well be Lee... but you're still going to need to add some more 'vital' scenes to make a whole script.


I already have enough vital scenes to show the story.  I need to think on it.  I like that it's short as it's a quick read that delivers good on its name.  But I'll think on what to add to make it a few pages longer.

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Hey,
good to see some chat about the challenge.

Several of you are phenomenally productive.
If I'll make it anyhow, mine will be a vomit draft with puking guaranty. There's meat for 45 p by now. 20 of them (vaguely) executed. I write 3-5 pages a day at the moment, which gives hope to move further. Maybe the penny drops and I'll soon find out what happens in the script's end. Then, there's a chance to finish anyhow.

Also, my script drifted into the action genre. I try to bring a darker tone inside to counteract that and make it an action-thriller at least. The race against the clock seems to be more of my problem and less of the characters. It finally won't start before the second act.

So, lots of problems. It's fine.

Here's the fresh logline which gives an insight into the new basic prerequisites of my story. It tells what I would like to pitch, still it's too long, and of course not - how I want to pitch it in the end:

In 2030 - after the nuclear powers extended their shields to perfection - constant deterrence hinders armies, spies and agencies to operate within other counties. A new UN-constitution was declared which allows taking out individuals for political interests in an official chess game.

So, that's a bit from the Killing Lottery...
Cheers and have a good weekend!




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In 2030 - after the nuclear powers extended their shields to perfection - constant deterrence hinders armies, spies and agencies to operate within other counties. A new UN-constitution was declared which allows taking out individuals for political interests in an official chess game.


Your logline describes the setting but not much of the story itself. So what happens after political assassinations become fair game? What's your story in this interesting world? Let's say for example that a female assassin is sent to take down a politician and her plan involves faking a romantic interest in him. But after she gets to know him she realizes that he's about to put in motion a plan to make the world tension-and-conflict-free again. In that case the logline would be something like that:

"In the future where the tension between nuclear powers is at its highest and the new UN-constitution makes political assassinations permissible, when a contracted killer finds the truth about her mark that he might be the only man who can stop the impending nuclear apocalypse, she vows to protect him in his journey till the last drop of her blood." - Till death take me apart

Haha, I got carried away a little there. The language is a bit cranky but it's just an example to explain my point of view.

Cheers

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I hit 70 pages today. 20 pages behind of where I wanted to be. Kicking myself being a lazy procrastinating fun loving beer drinking loser!!!  

2.5 weeks left. Time to get the 9 tail out, beat myself into submission and just finish this f'n thing!!!


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Been slacking myself. Back has been playing up recently so I've been off my tits on codeine. Busy making money too. And I have a week's holiday coming up.

Vomit is done and I'm almost done with the first act for draft 1. Still a lot to do... but when I put my mind to it, I can get 'er done in a few days.
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Your logline describes the setting but not much of the story itself. So what happens after political assassinations become fair game? What's your story in this interesting world? Let's say for example that a female assassin is sent to take down a politician and her plan involves faking a romantic interest in him. But after she gets to know him she realizes that he's about to put in motion a plan to make the world tension-and-conflict-free again. In that case the logline would be something like that:

"In the future where the tension between nuclear powers is at its highest and the new UN-constitution makes political assassinations permissible, when a contracted killer finds the truth about her mark that he might be the only man who can stop the impending nuclear apocalypse, she vows to protect him in his journey till the last drop of her blood." - Till death take me apart


Good input. I wasn't sure if the situation comes across, so I focused only on the story's world.

But, it seems to be understandable what I'm doing, so indeed I should put more story inside the logline. The first part of your example also shows that I can make it shorter. Thanks for the feedback



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I was just flicking back through this thread and noticed this.


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Snow Sharks 2:  The Return of Chief Brody


No. Absolutely not. This will not do. It should be -

Snow Sharks 2: Brody Bites Back


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Haha, I cannot wait to read your script, R.  Are you going to submit for this?  
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Not sure your attitude will remain quite as positive once you start reading my next opus.

Submit for this? Ooooh. Now that would be telling, wouldn't it? I thought it was still anonymous.

Oh. I see what you did there. Naughty.

Now, where's my oats and wellies?

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Relax, man, just because I don't like your writing doesn't mean I don't like you.  I'll still give it a chance.

Hell, everything James McClung sent me, I hated, until I read Black Market.  I ended up praising him for it.  So, there.  
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Relax, Deddy? But I'm already half asleep.

I know you will give it a fair go. One fine day. Would be unbecoming to think otherwise, methinks.

You always manage to get past the logline at least and read on. I wouldn't expect you to read further than a point when you knew you'd had enough. All that's fine.

You do realise I should be in a field by now?

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Holiday is going great, so I might be able to squeeze in some work today on the Final Draft.  Just had like 7 offers on Age of Shadows, that sweeping epic, so things are looking positive at the moment, may as well capitalize on the momentum with a rewrite of Shadow Games.

89 VD - 74 SD - Somewhere in-between for the final version.  80-85 most likely.
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Lee,

As you know I am wise beyond my years, Or so the barman told me earlier. Mind you, I did tip him. Nealy as big as Fat Man. Meat was cheap when he were lad. Or he might be big boned, I doubt it. Still, I've things to worry me. And my flock. I'm thinking about converting.

To metric, I mean. I almost joined the priesthood but then I realised I wouldn't be able to walk down the street with a dog collar. Not unless I was a dog, Which, sadly, I'm not. They seem far more happy than I, And I haven't even got a collar yet. I do stop at lamp posts. But for the wrong reasons. I'm not sure being a man of the cloth is for me. But I do know I prefer centimetres over inches. However, the idea if God is really Jesus eludes me. And the Holy Trinity confuses. But I do know I like miles over kilometres.

Maybe I should stick to farming, The locksmith thing goes well. And my cakes shift like... hot cakes, Which they aren't. Lukewarm at best. Tepid. Probably not the best word for cakeity.

What should I do. Probably shouldn't bother you on holiday. But I doubt I have. I shall watch Dr. Phil. Maybe he has the answers, Or his wife does. She seems to appear a lot lately. I'm not sure why. Or how her creams or website will help anyone but her. And him.

Have fun. I do. But you already knew that. When you come back I'll tell you something you don't know, Maybe.

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R,

Uh... I'm not sure how to respond to that, lol.  I agree...?  

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Oh, I wouldn't do that. People might confuse you with someone who thinks they should stop at lamp posts and measure them in centimentres while passers by accuse them of all sorts. I've not a clue. Who?

Have you seen Calvary? I think you should. In the right mood. We are emotional creatures. Or so I am told. It's rather good.

Now. Yes, absolutely. I made a decision. Farming is not for me. I like animals too much. Time to move on.

Have you heard of Birmingham? No, not Alabama. This is not Black Betty. From what I remember... I'll save that for later, Who knows? My cake thing might relapse. You never can tell.

Lee, have a great time. You don't need me to tell you that. But to hear it can't hurt. Beware of dog collars not worn by dogs arguing about inches near lamp posts. They are not what they seem.

Other wise words later. Or perhaps not. I'm not the news, I can't possibly compete.

But at least I try I make vaguely amusing. For the real thing Youtube John Oliver. I believe he's from Birmingham too.

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I almost joined the priesthood but then I realised I wouldn't be able to walk down the street with a dog collar. Not unless I was a dog, Which, sadly, I'm not. They seem far more happy than I, And I haven't even got a collar yet. I do stop at lamp posts. But for the wrong reasons.


This wasn't you was it?    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/07/30/naked-man-on-leash-in-w-va-could-face-charges/

I'm hoping to type FADE OUT: today. I'm happy with the first 30 pages. The rest? Not so much.  


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So in hindsight, you're saying we should consider the ramifications of ones actions in the world to embark on a noble quest of self revelation?

Hm... never thought of it that way, lol.
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I've managed to fall behind in my schedule. Wanted to hit page 60 last weekend with a view to hitting 75 this weekend. Instead I've been horribly slack and now I'm still only at page 51.

I suppose it is possible for me to get the 75 I wanted this week, but I've got quite a lot on so it will be tough. It would be tough for me anyway even if I was just sitting at my laptop for the next four days.

This challenge has become challenging again.
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This wasn't you was it?


I don't think so.

Hard to tell from the angle. Mind you, I do get around. Usually not that way, though. I have a bus pass. And trousers.

My better half can be harsh. But not usually that harsh.

It could have been during my cough medicine phase. Not sure. I thought the nurse told me that was the nineties.

Stop it! Sorry. Talking to myself there.

If you have thirty pages you're happy with at this stage I'd be proud. You've enough time if you drop everything else. Do not read this while holding a baby. I probably should have put that in earlier.

I always think if you have a good start you're halfway there. If you reread those pages after reading something else, and are still happy with them and want to know what happens next then get to it and find out.

It still can be done.

As they say down there, or up, depending on where you are - stay lucky.

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I wouldn't be surprised if this post is deleted, as many of mine are as of late, but I do want to chime in, as I do have experience in a 7WC format.

If you have less than 2 weeks to go and you haven't wrapped up your plot/storyline/script, I can tell you you're going to be in trouble when crunch time comes down.

But then again, it seems many on here as of late, beleive in this thing called a vomit draft, or pre-first draft.  I'm not into either and when posting such nonsense, IMO, you're setting yourself up for very poor reviews, but again, if that's what you're after...cool.

IMO, at this stage in the process, you should be set with a 3rd or 4rth draft, and reading it over constantly for corrections, edits, etc.  But, I know most don't work ths way, so that's cool.

I will attempt to read these when they're posted but will stay away from anyone's script that doesn't want my feedback.  Since, it's anonymous, you'll have to PM me and tell me which script not to comment on - and I won't.  If no one  wants a read from me, please, just let me know and I'll stay far away.

Good luck to all, as it's tough to produce a semi-finished script in 7 weeks...I know, and I'm rooting for you all, believe it or not.

Now's the time to go balls out and finish your script.  Read it over...and over...and over.  Don't have glaring mistakes or plot points that make no sense.  Do yourselves proud.

You get me?  Best to all.  
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But then again, it seems many on here as of late, beleive in this thing called a vomit draft, or pre-first draft.  I'm not into either and when posting such nonsense, IMO, you're setting yourself up for very poor reviews, but again, if that's what you're after...cool.


See I thought a v.draft which I prefer to call a rough draft or even first draft was the whole purpose of this exercise - i.e., to get it done in the allocated time on the assumption people will know and read it with that in mind. I'm not silly though and I get what you mean. I think on the whole people tend to review as if it is complete. Then agan, ideas and feedback might help with the next draft and isn't this the purpose as well?  


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IMO, at this stage in the process, you should be set with a 3rd or 4rth draft, and reading it over constantly for corrections, edits, etc.  But, I know most don't work ths way, so that's cool.


I'm nowhere near a third or fourth draft as other work took my attention away from this until just the other day so I reckon I'm a prime example of what you're talking about  I've still got a long way to go. And, I have been thinking... do I want to put up an unpolished script? Whether we like it or not even if the final draft is going to be genius, people judge on what is presented now... or least in two weeks time, and can you expect otherwise?? I don't think so.


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Good luck to all, as it's tough to produce a semi-finished script in 7 weeks...I know, and I'm rooting for you all, believe it or not.


It is tough especially when you haven't had the seven weeks.

I will say one thing and that is I've found the whole challenge invaluable. It's made me sit down and plot out a feature length script and get down on the page a lot of work that otherwise I know I would not have done, without the deadline.

Bearing all this in mind the points you make do make me think. I'm not sure I'll be game enough to put the script up if it's not to a level I want it to be. And that's my conundrum.

I reckon at this stage I'll just have to see where I'm at in another two weeks time.





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See I thought a v.draft which I prefer to call a rough draft or even first draft was the whole purpose of this exercise - i.e., to get it done in the allocated time on the assumption people will know and read it with that in mind.


You are correct. A vomit draft is indeed the first draft. Most scripts posted in these 7WC are first drafts and most people will know that when reading and take that in consideration. Writers will then use the feedback to re-write the other drafts. No one expects perfection when the scripts are first posted.

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I'm only just past the 1st act of the 1st draft. For me, the 1st draft comes after the vomit draft, as I don't write a treatment or plot beats. So the vomit draft is a purely organic process that will contain many holes. The first draft is where I clean all of those up, maybe even rewrite whole sections or acts.

I think what 'some' need to remember here is that many of us have lives. We can't all sit around year after year collecting social security cheques with all the time in the world to write.
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I may be getting the wrong end of the stick, but I'll ask anyway.

I'm getting you write out your erm... upchuck draft, as I dislike calling it vomit one, but I'm getting off the point. Out of character for me, I'm sure you agree.

Anyway, you write out your v draft, then go and write a first draft, as you say. So that is number two.

It sounds like you start writing the whole thing again. Personally I just keep messing with the first draft as I go along then go through it from the beginning. Then I might do it again.

Maybe you do too and I'm just getting your meaning wrong.

Oh, I've my job at the zoo. There's the kiosk where people come when they want a spare set, not to mention the stall. You know, with them on it.

It was going well. But then you sounded a bit like one of those Eton fellas in the government at the end. Which incidentally it will be them come next year when they'll be down the dole. I must find my soap box.

Nothing wrong with welfare for those who need it, in my humble. Particularly in an economic climate like the present.

I'd love to sit here all day banging away. On a keyboard I mean. But I can't either. Who'd feed the meerkats?

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Oh, I see.

The old socialist in me won't let such things lie easily. Those on the dole in England earn it, in my opinion, with the pittance it is and the hoops they have to keep jumping through.

Having said all that before I can't see Labour or the Greens being a whole lot better in government. But they don't seem quite as nasty as this lot. How IDS manages to sleep and not get showered with rotten eggs everywhere he goes is beyond me.

Oops. Wrong forum. I'll put me soap box away. Until the next time.

Keep at it.

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Regarding the writing I forgot to comment earlier. Too busy defending dolies.

I've tried writing a treatment. Doesn't work too well for me as I can't get a good idea of characters until I start on a draft and get them talking. I write a first draft then write a rough summary. Which I suppose is a treatment of sorts.

You put it more poetically than I. I just keep messing about with the first draft, dumping bits, adding others. Changing a word on the first page every time I open it until I've changed every bloody word on it at least once. That type of thing.

Anyways. Time's a ticking. A deadline approaches. As the drummer used to say - Head down. See you at the end.

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I'm not involved in this challenge but will throw in my two bobs worth about drafts and stuff.

I've finally got writing again after having a slack attack for a few months. It's a script idea I've had for ages, am doing a newer type,version of it.

Anyway, I always write by hand as I get more work done. Then I copy to the computer whenever. Using this method avoids a lot of rewriting (which I hardly ever do anyway as I'm more of the spontaneous one - if it ain't broke, don't fix it, lol) as when I go to copy onto the computer, it may be weeks after I've written the early stuff so I can revise as I go and leave it. Very handy.

I'm using index cards for this script so I guess they are acting as my vomit script. I write the scenes a few ahead and notes about what happens. I put a lot of stuff that may not matter later but it's no prob to do so. The index card app on my IPad is awesome!

Anyway it feels good to be back into the creative mode again! The whole storyline for this script,is all mapped out. I just have to 'fill it in' and make it rock.

I will read a few of your scripts when the challenge is done. Or if anyone wants me to read over their stuff before they finish or are struggling, feel free to just email it to me!



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Yeah, I think that's it with me too. I don't know the characters until they open their mouths and start doing things... I tried story-planning before and always end up writing something completely different afterwards, because stories insist on writing themselves much of the time. I prefer to go with the flow.

That can have its drawbacks on occasion, with whole drafts being discarded and the concept completely rewritten.
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IMO, at this stage in the process, you should be set with a 3rd or 4rth draft, and reading it over constantly for corrections, edits, etc.  But, I know most don't work ths way, so that's cool.


I'm on the 3rd draft.  I think the "Vomit"/Pre-First Draft is always helpful when it comes to designing the characters and crafting the plot.

The Final Draft, or 3rd draft, is usually where I fall short.  I can crack out an idea in next to no time, but for the life of me, the 3rd draft is the MOST difficult one because it combines the good and great from the previous 2 versions, and that can be hit or miss.

Whether I submit Shadow Games to the challenge in its fullest or not is another question entirely.  If I feel it's not ready, or that people won't like it, or that I don't like it (is the case with 75% of the stuff I write) then it won't see the light of day.
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Just submit no matter what. I'm still surprised when people show so much interest in Amelia and I always get high praise for it, almost sold it a couple times, been optioned once. I don't feel it is that great, however.
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Folks,

Let's stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks and exaggerated self pity.

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Wrote FADE OUT:!!!!! Today, but I need to reread the script tomorrow as I had forgot some character's names and also the time of the "event" thing. Ah, oldtimers!

Two weeks still to go. Time for feedback and then a re-write before the 15th.  

A toast to all of you who are pushing through. Please ask for help if you need it. We all know what it's like to be stuck.  


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Congrats Pia! Always nice to have time left to polish.

I stopped keeping track of the time element in mine. I started out inserting shots of clocks, counting pages and estimating travel times. By the mid-point I said, "Screw it. I'll just plug that stuff in when I'm done and make it whatever time feels natural."

I'm sitting at 85 pages now and am just about to enter the third act. Should be on pace to complete by a week from now. Then another week for nipping and tucking.

As for the earlier discussion about drafting. My preference is to write an outline. I didn't do it this time, but I could have. Ultimately, I decided that writing it out would take up too much time, and for what? Everything I would've wrote in there was holding together nicely in my head already.
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Wrote FADE OUT:!!!!!


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FADE OUT:

Sorry. Just wanted to see what it felt like.

It felt good.

Shame it'll take quite a hell of a lot more work than that did before I can do it again.

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How are you guys doing? Ten days left. Still time to get your scripts finished. I have discovered that mine is dull. Have plot holes the size of lunar craters. Shallow uneven characters...yes, I'm currently at that stage where I doubt everything I write. Is 12:18pm too early for a Guinness?

Don't forget your loglines! VERY important! If filmmakers checkout the list of scripts, don't let yours go unnoticed because of a dull logline. And, like I keep saying, this isn't a competition, so feel free to discuss your loglines here and ask for input too. I'm terrible with loglines, but I'm hoping my partner will be able to come up with something.


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  I have discovered that mine is dull. Have plot holes the size of lunar craters. Shallow uneven characters...yes, I'm currently at that stage where I doubt everything I write.


Doubting can be good. Better than thinking it's absolutely marvellous and everybody will love it. When they won't.

It sounds at least like you have most, if not all, of it already written. This is very good. As a wiser man than I once said to someone struggling to start writing a story - write something. You can always change it after.

And you can.

You know where it's dull - so pep it up a bit. If a character is coming across as dull you can always spice up their dialogue and make them more intriguing. Have them do something unusual and curious.

You know what works. You've also done this before. I suspect your script is better than you think. It's just not as good as you hoped. But it can be.

As for loglines I think I might try Bowie's lyric technique - write a load of words on little bits of paper then pick them out at random. Hey, it worked for the Thin White Duke. Might work for me too.


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Is 12:18pm too early for a Guinness?


Yo're evidently not Irish.

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Doubting can be good. Better than thinking it's absolutely marvellous and everybody will love it. When they won't.
I go through this all the time...hence the heavy Guinness intake.  


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It sounds at least like you have most, if not all, of it already written. This is very good. As a wiser man than I once said to someone struggling to start writing a story - write something. You can always change it after.

It's currently at 92 pages and I did write FADE OUT, but the ending definitely needs work! I'll try to work on it tomorrow.


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As for loglines I think I might try Bowie's lyric technique - write a load of words on little bits of paper then pick them out at random. Hey, it worked for the Thin White Duke. Might work for me too.

The best logline person here at SS is actually Electric Dreamer, IMO. He's GREAT at it!




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Yo're evidently not Irish.

I'm Swedish. I just don't do vodka or aquavit. I'm a beer person.  


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  I'm a beer person.


Nothing wrong with that. Or being Swedish. I imagine the two go together well. Hang on, isn't Guinness stout? Oooooh. I found a hair on my cake. I'm just going to split it. I like doing that.


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It's currently at 92 pages and I did write FADE OUT, but the ending definitely needs work! I'll try to work on it tomorrow.


I wrote Fade Out too. It was fun. Bloody endings always need work. Good luck to you and all bashing away at keyboards. I mean typing.

Now, I'm off to see a man about a goat.

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My dog's name is actually Guinness Stout.  

Anyway, it's quiet here. I hope quite a few of you guys will submit something.


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I've managed to get way behind now, only got to page 60, so I'm 15 behind where I wanted to be. Hopefully, if I bring my A game, I can get to page 90(ish) and the magical FADE OUT by Sunday, giving me around a week to try and fix up as much as I can.

I'm not sure right now whether I'll be happy enough to send it in on deadline, but all I really care about is getting to FADE OUT as I've never got there in a feature before. With my writing style, it'll be better than a vomit draft, but until I've finished and read through, I won't know for sure how good or bad it is.

I'm now mainly just trying to create positive vibes for myself in order to finish. Finishing a feature in seven weeks, no matter the standard, will be a massive personal achievement for me.
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Well, I tried to get back in the game after my vacation - wrote to page 35.... but now I'm beat. I caught a cold which doesn't seem to let go.
And now I'm thinking rewriting this thing will take time and energy which I don't have since it's a thriller. And thrillers are boring and depressing to me.
So I'm not thinking to continue anymore. Maybe next year)

I just got off writing a horror (tranlating my own work actually) and I want to do something fun. Something cheerful and funny and uplifting.
Also, reading thrillers is no fun I noticed. I won't be much help reading yours as I'm not into thrillers at all.
So, I''m bowing of for sure this time.

Good luck to those who plan to finish by August 15th! It's very daring to let your first drafts be read by SS community. I did it twice. Too bad I can't finish it now but that's how it is. Anyway, good luck to all!!!

Pia, I didn't know you got yours in the pile. Did you out yourself? Which one is it?
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Khamanna!!!!! Boring and depressing????? I'm really sorry you feel that way. I understand if you like more cheerful and happy things though. And I hope you get over your cold too.  To me, thrillers are my favorites and it's one of the most popular genres.

I was not going to enter anything, but for awhile there in the early going, it looked like maybe no one would participate, so even though I didn't have the time at all, I thought, shit, I better submit something so it's not a complete fiasco. So yes, I did write something. I did not enter the first ten pages however. I was encouraged to see so many entries for the first 10 pages. I'm just wondering how many will actually finish. I hope you all do.  


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Yeah, I'm really sorry too. I know it's the most popular genre and for a while I used to force myself into writing several - some are a mix of thriller and horror - not easy.
And I know I'm not an ideal candidate to read and comment as I don't watch thrillers therefore don't know much about them. I watch some... but not enough.

Maybe I'll finish mine sometime - just for the sake of finishing a job that's been started.
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Maybe comedy next time, Khamanna.  

So, I'm in. I think Dena is. Dustin. Rendevous. Libby?

Who else?

Ok, you guys who are slacking. I'm going to light a fire under your asses! I know for a fact that there is a company who will at least be checking out the loglines when these are done. Wouldn't you feel bad if your logline intrigued them, but you didn't finish your script?


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Yes, she did, but that doesn't mean she can't entered the feature part. That goes for anyone else too that has pulled theirs.

The rules in the 1+6WC are not the same as in the OWC. The aim here is to write a feature in a short period of time and within the parameters given.  


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I wish I saw this sooner, by time I noticed the challenge it was not enough time for me. I will definitely enter future challenges


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I'll probably be good to go. I ended up working on something more important for a good chunk of the time, but I've been moving along on my entry now. Switched to a different story to try to get closer to the tone -- my ten pages were Firestorm (the comedy-fantasy-thriller) but I'm now working on a sci-fi thriller, so that's slightly less off, anyway.

Like Khamanna, I find the vast majority of thrillers boring as hell, especially the kind with tough fifty-year-old men in the lead, so I was never going to write a perfect fit. But hopefully I'll have a script in.
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Great to hear, Chris!  

I think most stories change as we write them. I know that's true for me too. Even if I do an outline, the story usually decides it wants to go a different direction that I originally planned.


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The two I put on here...got ripped to shreds and I could not find the pieces to even put them back together...so I wrote something else. It's mostly contained thriller...it still fits the challenge I think...although definitely NOT perfectly...I'll submit for the hell of it.

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So, I'm in. I think Dena is. Dustin. Rendevous. Libby?


Just noticed this AB, I see I spelt your name rather badly up there. Sorry about that. Don't know what I was thinking. But I'm sure it's good for you.

I'm writing a script. But whether it goes in or not I can't say for sure. We'll have to see. I'll only put it up if I get it good enough in time.

I think the other OWC writers are beavering away in silence, probably because of the anonymity thing. Which is a good thing for now. I prefer reading the OWCs when I've no idea who wrote them. Stops you bringing unwanted prejudices into the reviews.

Just a note here about when I'm going back looking for scripts.

When I click this http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?n-1/b-OWC0714/

to see the scripts posted at the start of the challenge it sometimes only brings up four or five of them.

I can get round it and see all of them by clicking a thread then selecting "2014 One + 6  Week Challenge"

Strangely enough it seems to be exactly the same link, but then it works fine. I'm not complaining. Just bringing it to the attention of the mods and da boss.

It's a weird quirk. All the rest of the site works fine.

Anyways, I see fifteen script threads in there. I know a few have dropped out, which was always gonna happen. But you yourself are having a go as are a few others who didn't post the first ten.

I'd be betting on at least a dozen or so getting posted before the deadline.

I'm posting The Sandwich again soon with some little changes.



It's in the queue with the big fella. I do recall you saying you liked it way back when. Tis one of my better efforts, methinks.

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especially the kind with tough fifty-year-old men in the lead


Wait, I got confused with the age of the male lead here - shouldn't he be around 50? Becausse lots of reviewers say in his 50s, but I thought it's pretty flexible since it's "around 50" - 40s should be good as well, no?

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I decided to continue with mine and see how much of it I can accomplish.

The nice thing that came out of the challenge - I did rewrite my first ten thanks to the helpful feedback. And I may reach page 70 or something till August 15 - who knows...
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shouldn't he be around 50? Becausse lots of reviewers say in his 50s, but I thought it's pretty flexible since it's "around 50" - 40s should be good as well, no?


No. Around fifty isn't forties. Not unless it's forty nine and a half. Just make him around fifty. Not doing so gains you very little, if anything.

I suppose you could really stretch it by making him a transexual woman post op. Or maybe a eunuch. But I'd question how this would help contribute to the thriller element of this script.

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you could really stretch it by making him a transexual woman post op. Or maybe a eunuch.

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Seriously it's like you read my script. Weird!
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Toying with the idea of entering last minute...
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I'm stuck in in the mid-80's (pages, not decade) Still trying to get the ending right. It's still a first draft. So I'm sure I'll get ripped a new one.

Sorry I haven't been more active on this thread or even the boards in general. Writing the feature, work and everything else have pretty much swallowed up my time. I'm hoping to write Fade out by this weekend. That should give me five days or so to try and comb through the script for misspellings, plot holes, and whatever other garbage I find along the way. I just hope it's at least entertaining.

Somehow it turned in to an action flick. I read medium to high budget, I said OK. ..Let's have a little fun. Packed it in with all sorts of car chases, combat, bullets and explosions. This could be OK or the worst pile of shit I have ever wrote. Only time and a harsh review will tell.

So you can count me in. I'm almost at the finish line.



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Ok, I must be honest. Mine is not a thriller, it's in the vein of Knight and Day. And while Knight and Day is pretty much action - mine is not. Although the middle of it is some action but nerds running around doesn't equal Tom Cruise on the killing spree.

So, it's romance plus comedy. Some of it is thrilling... to me. It's somewhat of a thriller as my guys are hiding and running and discovering stuff but the tone is farcical - and I'm shooting for farcical.
So, I won't submit it into the OWC but hopefully will finish it and submit separately to SS asking for review exchanges. If I ever finish it - but I decided to go for it. I hope I don't jinx my decision by saying it outloud.
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Yeah, I'm in. Just got back from a brief break to recharge the cockles.

I think there's something like 5 days left, and I have almost an entire rewrite to do, but I'm not worried. The story is set, all there is to do is the writing... and that's when it's fun.

Good luck to everyone else that's in and be damned the rest of 'em.
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Welcome back.

All there is to do is the writing? Isn't that when it gets difficult? Well, it does in my house. It's amazing how much procrastinating you can do. I watched a full episode of Dr. Phil the other day. Then a complete episode of Judge Judy. I felt dirty afterwards, obviously. I would even go as far to say I enjoyed them. but that would be obsene. Dirty..

Good luck to all. Heads down. See you at the end.

Now, back to my cheese sandwich.

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Don't get me started on procrastinating, especially as my PS4 arrived yesterday. Sure I put in a quick ten hours of gaming on it, but today I'm mainly trying to focus on writing. It's hard though cos I can see the PS4 across the room just looking all slick and fancy. I know it wants me to play it, it's like a mermaid trying to draw in a ship full of sailors. And now I'm thinking about the controller, it's a thing of beauty. It's like I get to hold something straight out of the future.

Anyway, I've hit page 70. Got around 20 to go which I'll be trying to get done today and tomorrow. That'll give me a bit of time to go over it and fix any problems I can find.

FADE OUT is still in my sights, but so is my PS4.

Good luck and a positive mental attitude to all.
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Oh dear. You have PS4 disease. Highly contagious. I recommend Tomb Raider. Fucking brilliant game that leads you by the hand then just lets go. It won't cure you. But at least you'll have a great time.

Now then. Lara's in a tricky spot. But feck her, I've a goat and a piglet to feed. Not to mention the sheep. Oops. I think I just did.

Now then. Again. Sounds like you're nearly there. Back to script, methinks.

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My partner opted out of the co-write so I'm stuck with my first draft...which sucks donkey balls. I'm not sure how much I can fix it up this last week either, because I have company here the next 9 days and then the wedding next Friday.  


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^ Give your partner the ol' Kathy Bates! You'll have that draft in your hands in no time. Just don't believe 'em when they say they need a second glass of champagne for you.
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You've all done better than me. I'm still rewriting my first 30. lol.

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Hey Rip...

You have still got five days man!!! Get going!!

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Hey Dana,

I'm not in this. Lol. I was just saying. I gotta get back to writing.

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I'm never gonna get the final draft finished in time, so I'll upload the trash draft.  I did write the thing, may as well enter it into the challenge.  It gets the point across as it stands, just a shame you won't see a superior version...

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What the hell? Lee? You can write a script in 24 hours... I'm totally shocked. Last time you mentioned this script it was at third draft stage. Whagwaan?
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Sent mine in for a read to screenplay readers....got a consider on the vomit draft...now if I can just tweak the problems and work out the kinks before Friday!
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That's excellent Dena!!!! I sent mine in on Saturday, but haven't heard back yet. I'm sure I'll get two angry PASSes though. Oh well. You can only do so much.

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I'm sure you will get Considers or Recommends Pia...you are a veteran!

I could only afford one read this time. I'm sure it was just luck for me. Mine still needs MAJOR work!

I scored highest on strength of concept, climax/payoff, and overall clarity...they suggested character work, and a stronger goal which I think was a pile of shit...but they did give me some really good notes and I'm trying to work through the script once more before submitting it.

Thank you and Don for kicking my ass into shape... I wrote two first 10 pages...then wrote a whole other 100 page script! So you accomplished getting me fired up at least!!!
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Happy for you, Dena. So, you haven't posted first ten for this one, right?

One of yuor first ten was very good. I don't know why you decided to trash it.

So, anyone ever got a Recommend from them?
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What the hell? Lee? You can write a script in 24 hours... I'm totally shocked. Last time you mentioned this script it was at third draft stage. Whagwaan?


Not the final draft.  Most of the stuff I've submitted have been vomits and first drafts of concepts, and they take me a few days at most to complete.  But final drafts on the other hand, well, they can take me anywhere from 3 weeks to 2 months to complete.

As it stands, the final draft (3rd draft) of Shadow Games is at a mere 16 pages after roughly 2 weeks, mainly because I'm focusing on the Destiny Universe and Girl of the Lake.
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Well mainly focus on Shadow Games then. It's only a few days. I've got other stuff I'd much rather be working on, but I've made a commitment to finish this script and I've got like 40 pages or so to rewrite I think. And I still have to tie in the story better on another run through. I've left myself with quite a lot of work to do but I'm determined to do it.

Finishing things is what it's all about. Anyone can write a vomit draft... they're easy, little better than an extended treatment. The hard part is finishing it. That's what you need to get down.
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Even if I focused primarily on Shadow Games, it wouldn't get done in time.  It takes me longer in real cities because I have to study the layout so I know how long it would really take someone to get from, say, Little Italy to Times Square at night.

An example of this would be the moment Swanson has to get from the Docks at Greenwich Village to the Senate Office in Midtown East at 10:35pm which is 3.3 miles and he has 5 minutes to get there.

This is why it's taking longer.  Geography... I hate it.
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Happy for you, Dena. So, you haven't posted first ten for this one, right?

One of yuor first ten was very good. I don't know why you decided to trash it.

So, anyone ever got a Recommend from them?


I don't think anyone hardly ever gets a recommend...their stats say 1% get recommends...I'd like to be in that group *sigh*

Thanks K ...my first ten got ripped pretty good...enough to sway me from finishing  for the time being...so I decided why not try to write a mostly contained thriller...it still got a little over budget(in my eyes), and it's so hard to keep the tension and escalate it in a contained (to me).

I'm a walking zombie today Happy Tuesday to all!!
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Sent mine in for a read to screenplay readers....got a consider on the vomit draft...now if I can just tweak the problems and work out the kinks before Friday!


Out of interest, where do you send scripts for this sort of thing? It's something I'd like to experience if I can ever get mine finished.
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http://www.screenplayreaders.com is the fastest/cheaptest I have found...it's $79 for one read. They offer all sorts of other services but I do the cheapest....but the notes come back in like one to two days which is awesome if you are in a pinch.
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Even if I focused primarily on Shadow Games, it wouldn't get done in time.  It takes me longer in real cities because I have to study the layout so I know how long it would really take someone to get from, say, Little Italy to Times Square at night.

An example of this would be the moment Swanson has to get from the Docks at Greenwich Village to the Senate Office in Midtown East at 10:35pm which is 3.3 miles and he has 5 minutes to get there.

This is why it's taking longer.  Geography... I hate it.


It sounds like you and I dealt with very similar issues on this challenge.  I also had my protagonist running all around the greater New York area. My time span was 4 hours. Since I seem to have made it out the other side intact (wrote FADE OUT two nights ago and have been editing since), maybe one of the cheats I used could help.

1. Is your script strictly real time, or just awfully close? When I first hatched my idea, I was thinking strictly real time. As I thought my story beats out, I realized it would be impossible. I gave myself 10 hours, then pulled it back down to 4. From that point on, I was never really worried because if I finished my script and it turned out the events would take 5 or 6 hours to play out, I’d just go to my opening scene and replace the words, “you have four hours” with “you have five hours”. So when you say he has 5 minutes to get there… is there any way he could have 10 minutes instead?

2. Location Vagueness. If you’re using known places, people can call you out on travel times. If you use a vague location, you can make the travel time whatever you want. My vague locations include a gym, a hotel and a school. All I know about the gym and hotel is that they’re a few blocks from each other. The school is a 5-10 minute drive from the first train stop off the Williamsburg Bridge. Where exactly? Who cares? If this could apply to your example, maybe the Senator isn’t in his office. Maybe he’s at a restaurant. Maybe that restaurant is in Greenwich Village. Suddenly the travel time gets a lot shorter.

3. You’re probably already doing this but… keep your characters moving. In this scenario it’s not just for pacing, you’re accounting for travel time. A 5 minute scene with your protagonist talking plus a 10 minute drive time, equals 15 minutes. Having your protagonist talk while he’s driving brings it down to 10.

There are some other things, but it might be a little late in the game. For instance, I found having multiple characters helped rather than hurt, cause it allowed me to cut away every time my protagonist was doing something boring, like sitting in a cab. Of course, characters need more reason to exist than that. But perhaps you have a character that’s been underutilized?

If you do submit a “lesser” draft, I’d polish it up at least. Try to ensure that the notes you get are more about the story than the writing.

Anyway, Good luck with it. And to everyone else too.

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Haha, well, if I don't make it, I'll post it at a later date.

It's a shame too, because it definitely would have been a different kind of entry.
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http://www.screenplayreaders.com is the fastest/cheaptest I have found...it's $79 for one read. They offer all sorts of other services but I do the cheapest....but the notes come back in like one to two days which is awesome if you are in a pinch.


Cheers for the info. Will probably give it a go when I'm done. Seems like a good price as well. Might even be able to afford either the 2 or 3 readers too, just to see how different they are.
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Sounds like a rip off to me. To get a positive review when the author fully admits there are lots of things wrong doesn't bode well. Seems one could do just as well getting reads from here or using one's own good judgement.
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Sounds like a rip off to me. To get a positive review when the author fully admits there are lots of things wrong doesn't bode well. Seems one could do just as well getting reads from here or using one's own good judgement.


I get that, it's just something I feel I need to experience. Plus it won't break my bank either, so I'm cool with it.
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It sounds like you and I dealt with very similar issues on this challenge.  I also had my protagonist running all around the greater New York area. My time span was 4 hours. Since I seem to have made it out the other side intact (wrote FADE OUT two nights ago and have been editing since), maybe one of the cheats I used could help.

1. Is your script strictly real time, or just awfully close? When I first hatched my idea, I was thinking strictly real time. As I thought my story beats out, I realized it would be impossible. I gave myself 10 hours, then pulled it back down to 4. From that point on, I was never really worried because if I finished my script and it turned out the events would take 5 or 6 hours to play out, I’d just go to my opening scene and replace the words, “you have four hours” with “you have five hours”. So when you say he has 5 minutes to get there… is there any way he could have 10 minutes instead?

2. Location Vagueness. If you’re using known places, people can call you out on travel times. If you use a vague location, you can make the travel time whatever you want. My vague locations include a gym, a hotel and a school. All I know about the gym and hotel is that they’re a few blocks from each other. The school is a 5-10 minute drive from the first train stop off the Williamsburg Bridge. Where exactly? Who cares? If this could apply to your example, maybe the Senator isn’t in his office. Maybe he’s at a restaurant. Maybe that restaurant is in Greenwich Village. Suddenly the travel time gets a lot shorter.

3. You’re probably already doing this but… keep your characters moving. In this scenario it’s not just for pacing, you’re accounting for travel time. A 5 minute scene with your protagonist talking plus a 10 minute drive time, equals 15 minutes. Having your protagonist talk while he’s driving brings it down to 10.

There are some other things, but it might be a little late in the game. For instance, I found having multiple characters helped rather than hurt, cause it allowed me to cut away every time my protagonist was doing something boring, like sitting in a cab. Of course, characters need more reason to exist than that. But perhaps you have a character that’s been underutilized?

If you do submit a “lesser” draft, I’d polish it up at least. Try to ensure that the notes you get are more about the story than the writing.

Anyway, Good luck with it. And to everyone else too.



Hey EWall,

1) It is real time, 90 minutes (length of the script is 90 pages) so the dude has 5 minutes to get to this location, as he's wearing a bomb vest that ticks down from 01:30:00, so every second counts.  It takes place from 10:15pm - 01:00am (the first 5 minutes to get to the docks, a few minutes at the docks, vest begins at 10:30pm, giving him an hour and a half to get the job done.  An hour of this can be subtracted for Petrovic wanting to talk to Swanson without the timer ticking.

2) Exactly the problem I encountered.  With the Senator, he started at the airport, but from all reports, the airport in New York is an HOUR away from where we start, which poses as a problem, so I changed it to the office, a 3.3 mile distance in 5 minutes at night in Manhattan shouldn't be an issue.  After that, the guy goes somewhere else and we meet the Protagonist, a detective en route to the laundromat who happens upon a dead hit-and-run victim at 10:33pm, 2 minutes BEFORE Swanson gets to the Senator at his office, so it takes place later in the script but earlier than a scene prior to the showdown.  Newman is always one step behind, per se.

3) Always and constantly.  Swanson never talks to anyone except Petrovic and when this happens, if it's something Petrovic wants to talk about, he stops the timer.  If not and it's a call, the timer counts down still, and Swanson keeps driving.

4?) I have 3 primary characters.  The antagonist is in the shadows for 80+ pages until he's finally revealed.  Then I have the past/present colliding with one another.  Newman and O'Connor (a detective and an FBI Agent) are tracking Swanson, who is going after random targets, such as PEOPLE and OBJECTS of interest.  Then we have the past sequences, which move the plot along and reveal more about Petrovic's life before the events of the script in 1995.  And we meet Emmett, Swanson's younger self, who is a cold and calculating assassin hired by a shadow organization to eliminate threats to their secretive plots, etc.

So in all, it's always moving and never stops and there's several key characters and plot threads to explore.

I've touched up the "lesser" version, removed typos, edited action scenes and given the dialogue some attention, so it's ready for review.

Good luck with yours too...

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Yeah, real time can be tricky, especially when you open it up. Most of the real time movies I can think of were also contained movies taking place in pretty much one location. A few have even been shot in one continuous take.

Placing it at night is a good call that should save you some traffic. Mine takes place almost exclusively in the day, so I tried to save myself some traffic by getting out of Manhattan    Between you and me, we should have a full Day/Night Tour of the city going on.
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Sent mine in for a read to screenplay readers....got a consider on the vomit draft...now if I can just tweak the problems and work out the kinks before Friday!


I got a PASS and one CONSIDER. I just don't think I'll have time to work on it before Friday. It needs some major plot hole fixes. Not that I'm surprised.



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I'm up to page 66 of the first draft.

Think there's a good story in there. Structure is there, got some good ticking clock action...but it's going to need a lot of tidying up.
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I'm up to page 66 of the first draft.

Think there's a good story in there. Structure is there, got some good ticking clock action...but it's going to need a lot of tidying up.


I'm at around the same right now. Having to completely rewrite the last 40 pages or so. But that should mean all plot holes covered. One or two may be weak, but over all I should have a viable first draft by the deadline.
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I got a PASS and one CONSIDER. I just don't think I'll have time to work on it before Friday. It needs some major plot hole fixes. Not that I'm surprised.



Well...a consider is good enough to know you got something worth working on I was happy with it...and I got holes too...gonna post mine anyhow...but it's probably out of the budget range ....but oh well...I'm still going to try to improve mine before shopping it though.

Good job, Pia!! You rock!
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I'm at around the same right now. Having to completely rewrite the last 40 pages or so. But that should mean all plot holes covered. One or two may be weak, but over all I should have a viable first draft by the deadline.


I'm in the same boat, although my plotholes might still be wide enough that a semi could fall in.


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I wrote 5 pages in my first hour awake this morning. Even before my first coffee. The only reason I'm here now is because my gf is hoovering. I think it's deliberate because we had a falling out over who was going to clean the cat litter tray last night.
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So I just finished a draft for this challenge. Found out about it a few weeks late - but wanted to give it a shot. I have a fifty year old protag. Suppose there's some thriller elements. The ticking clock grew wings and flew out the window. The idea of it is buried in there somewhere. Went down the rabbit hole a bit.

Log: An aging, alcoholic western film director takes in his long lost God Daughter, who unbeknownst to her, is being tracked down by the mexican cartel and psychotic hollywood hit men after a botched money exchange.

I think it almost turned into a satire. Convoluted much? Decisions, decisions.
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Log: An aging, alcoholic western film director takes in his long lost God Daughter, who unbeknownst to her, is being tracked down by the mexican cartel and psychotic hollywood hit men after a botched money exchange.


An aging, alcoholic, film director takes in his long lost God Daughter who, unbeknownst to her, is being tracked by the Mexican cartel and psychotic Hollywood hit-men after a botched money exchange.

Careful where you put those commas.
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Up to page 76.

You can't stop the bum rush.
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I'm up to 81. Just the end sequence, then the boring grab-your-coat happy ending and I'm done. Plenty of time.
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I think it's deliberate because we had a falling out over who was going to clean the cat litter tray last night.


Just clean it out, Dustin. Take it from me. Less trouble that way.


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I'm not really one for backing down once I start something. Which probably accounts for the multiple beatings I've endured. You can't buy brains, I suppose. Unless they're faggots.

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I was being optimistic and thinking I would work on the script this evening, but after spending a few minutes trying to open my hotel room door with my car key, I'm beginning to think it's not going to happen.  


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I went on and submitted mine. I'm going to have a drinking night tomorrow...I've decided....so mine is in.  It is a rough draft, but I need to step away from it after writing twenty pages of two first tens...then switching to this...just a lot of pages in 6 weeks
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I'm coming into my final stretch now. Been writing for a few hours straight so needed a quick break. Hoping to get to FADE OUT tonight so I can give it a quick once over tomorrow.

Problem is, it's 4:20 am here, and I'm getting a little sleepy. Just over 24 hours to go though, so I need to soldier on. I'm so close I can almost taste the satisfaction of finishing my first feature. I feel quite proud of what I've managed so far, but will be even prouder if I can make the deadline.

Impossible is nothing.
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I was being optimistic and thinking I would work on the script this evening, but after spending a few minutes trying to open my hotel room door with my car key, I'm beginning to think it's not going to happen.  



Indeed. Something came up with me today and I couldn't work on it. I'm only arounf 70 pages in, and while I like some of my characters and situations, I am not liking the draft thus far. It goes against my grain - I'm writing in too much filler. and cliches---the kind of junk Robert McKee and John Truby warn you about. I never do these things---yet now I'm finding I am doing them just to increase a page count and I'm boring myself.

I'm going to do one of the following:

* Say screw it for now
* Say screw it and revise the problem scenes/edit them out and risk a lower page count.
* Say screw it for now and roll with it knowing that it is fuull baloney , submit and face the music / rewrite later.

to recap:
*I don't like any of my characters. One character does something repulsive and I myself can't recover from it. Even if he is a bad guy.

*I think the premise is good, but it needs better execution

*It's very likely the challenge was out of my wheelhouse.

If I don't make deadline my submission will be removed, and I'll talk about it in this or another related thread. The draft will crop up later on in any case - with my adjustments.


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I'm coming into my final stretch now. Been writing for a few hours straight so needed a quick break. Hoping to get to FADE OUT tonight so I can give it a quick once over tomorrow.

Problem is, it's 4:20 am here, and I'm getting a little sleepy. Just over 24 hours to go though, so I need to soldier on. I'm so close I can almost taste the satisfaction of finishing my first feature. I feel quite proud of what I've managed so far, but will be even prouder if I can make the deadline.

Impossible is nothing.


Never write when you're tired. The time you start rambling is probably the time for a rest. Well done for completing your first feature.

I've got around 10 pages or so to finish off today then I'm going to submit as is.
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Today is the day I guess. Well, mine is not ready, not that I was going to post it - I wrote a lot but rereading now and have trouble understanding what my characters are saying and why...

There's a good story somewhere in there and I actually like my characters - I just need to get a hold of myself and do a major rewrite. It's so hard to cut and throw away!! so hard...
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I went on and submitted mine. I'm going to have a drinking night tomorrow...I've decided....so mine is in.  It is a rough draft, but I need to step away from it after writing twenty pages of two first tens...then switching to this...just a lot of pages in 6 weeks


Wow Dena, contrats on finishing! And you have a consider... so it must be a good read...
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Never write when you're tired. The time you start rambling is probably the time for a rest. Well done for completing your first feature.

I've got around 10 pages or so to finish off today then I'm going to submit as is.


Yep, solid advice. Don't think the type of cigarette I smoke was making it any easier either. Luckily, I realised this not long after my post and called it a night.
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Don't think the type of cigarette I smoke was making it any easier either.


I've smoked for so long now it doesn't get in the way. If anything, life gets in the way of my smoking.

I got to give credit to Nick Diaz for that one, although I've twisted it a little bit, partly because writing and smoking can be great bed partners.


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In response to the question of whether his pot smoking was getting in the way of his (Nick Diaz)MMA career... "Actually, on the contrary, my fight career has gotten in the way of my marijuana smoking."
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I've smoked for so long now it doesn't get in the way. If anything, life gets in the way of my smoking.



Usually it's not a problem, but added to the tiredness, plus 13 hours of smoking, it all got a little much.

I once did an experiment with myself to see how long I could go smoking at least one spliff an hour. Got to about 30 hours before I had to give up, it became pretty horrible by that point. Everything felt wrong when usually it makes everything feel pretty sweet.

Still, everything in moderation and all that, am I right?
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Sorry to interrupt this fascinating stuff, lads. But just before the mods do, are you sure completely sure you're on the right forum?

Call me old fashioned and even smoke free(ish), I was under the impression this thread was about the OWC thingy.

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We were talking about how smoking helps the writing process ergo making it possible to enter these contests.


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Yeah, what Dustin said.

Though you're probably right, Ren. So consider it back on track when I mention that I'm very close to finishing my script.
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I'm proof reading my draft right now, or should be... I've got to run out to help a friend out, then another friend later, then I'm going to watch Inbetweeners 2 with the gf. So, I won't get to finish... but at least the draft is done.
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Last day of the challenge. I won't reach the finishing line. There were about ten days or more the other job was quite extensive and beyond that I had to organize my father's seventieth after work. Impossible to pick up the pencil for a minute to get something done. But, it's okay. I don't see it as excuse, because I don't think I would have been able to do it however, even without those time problems.

I think I learned a lot about my stuff. I usually draw out stories extensively, let them grow in my head for a while and all that, then write another piece I've thought of for a while etc. -- but this here was do or die.

Maybe I'll submit my pages so far. I'm around the story's midpoint.  Don't know if anybody's interested in an unfinished work.

There's definitely a worth of this experience I'll take with me.



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Mine is submitted.

There's some bullshit in there, has to be said, but the broad strokes are there.

With a bit of time, and the help of the great people on here, I think it'll be a nice little thriller in the end.

Great challenge. Looking forward to the next one, already...and looking forwards to reading the other entries.

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Just submitted. I could have done with a couple more run throughs, but I'm guessing their will be quite a bit wrong plot-wise anyway.

I'll be kind to all submissions and concentrate on story only as I appreciate the constraints involved. If I can help, I will. Good luck.
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It's so hard to cut and throw away!! so hard...


I think this is the key.

Or certainly one of them, anyway.

Just because you wrote it and it's in there, you get attached. One thing in common the good screenwriting books will tell you is not's the writing that's difficult. It is, but before I tangent... It's the rewriting. Realising what is good and what's bad, and dumping the bad to make it better. Then doing it again. And again. Until it is all good.

I think the hardest bit is not changing what you have written. It's dumping the bits you like but know, deep down, are rubbish and need reworking. It can hurt, and I often find myself thinking - I spent a whole day on that bit. It's not great but...

Once you can dump that bit you spent the day or more on, then you're on your way.

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I'm done. Over and out.
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What I mean is, I'm done. There's no possible way I can make the deadline. I'm not into my script, and my diabetic retinathopy whasitcalled in my right eye isn't helping.




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Oh dear. I defintely know the feeling, DJS. If you don't like it yourself, it'd be foolish to expect others to.

I think there's about six hours left. I can see the towel. But I'm not throwing it just yet. Luckily I can also see the pram with the toys in. I may be getting in it shortly. I also have a dummy I may spit later. I believe those of the American persuasion call it a pacifier. WHich to my ear sounds like a missile of some sort.

Back to work.

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I don't like mine much either but I'm still pushing it on people.

I barely have 85 pages, but it is tight with lots of action and little dialogue. I only managed to proof the the first 19 pages though, watched The Inbetweeners tonight, very funny. I could probably cut a bit of dialogue later on too.
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Good luck, Ren

It's the weekend, plenty of time to finish it.
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Thanks, ST.

Indeed. I must start by stopping watching the TV to find out if Cliff Richard is the complete barstard I always suspected.

Otherwise I'll never get done. And I definitely must stop humming 'The Young Ones' as it's getting as weird as 'Two Little Boys' is now sadly.

A damn shame.

Oh shit. Now I'm humming 'Two Little Boys'.

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I did it! I effing did it!

My first ever feature script, finished.

I'm so proud of myself right now I could burst. It's the best feeling to finally have that monkey off my back.

Don't get me wrong, I know it won't be perfect as it is, but I've been looking at it for so many hours straight that I can no longer see the wood for the trees. I've sent it in and so be it. I'm pretty happy with it anyway.

I almost feel like treating myself to a Southern Comfort, but it's late and I prefer not to drink alcohol these days. A cold diet coke will be an acceptable victory drink instead.

Thanks again for the challenge, and for all the encouragement along the way.

I love everything right now, and that includes you, yes you, reading this.

Good luck to all involved.

It's been emotional.
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Congrats Arty! I'll drink the alcohol on your behalf. And good luck to those of you still hammering away.

I've just submitted mine. Would've been nice to knock a couple more pages off in the editing, but the only darling I could see left to kill wouldn't go down without a fight. Curious whether others will help me take 'er out.

Besides that, I'm either pleasantly surprised by what I managed in 7 weeks... or I'm completely deluded. Only time will tell.

Good luck to all!
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Quoted from ArtyDoubleYou
I did it! I effing did it!

My first ever feature script, finished.

I'm so proud of myself right now I could burst. It's the best feeling to finally have that monkey off my back.


It's really nice to see someone be so enthusiastic about something. Good for you and good luck.
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Okay, things turned out to be simply unexpected positive over here.

The first time I really could imagine what's going on with my Killing Lottery script happened tonight. Only some hours before the deadline... I guess that's screenwriting.

When I saw this big cliffhanger in the middle of the script I saw daylight. Fuck. It's a series. It's much better positioned as a series.

The vision of a post apocalyptic world combined with a shooting exchange, partly political stuff, killer's destinies – that's not cinema. Ironically, only to discover that fact was a major step forward.

So, I'm in with a first episode of a series. Expect the unexpected.



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Congrats Arty! I'll drink the alcohol on your behalf.


Thanks. And if you're drinking on my behalf, it must be a Southern Comfort and lemonade, on ice, but definitely no lime or lemon. Not that I'm a little particular or anything.


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It's really nice to see someone be so enthusiastic about something. Good for you and good luck.


I'm sure my enthusiasm will quickly turn to despair once my script gets picked apart on here. I'll end up just liking everything quite a lot instead of loving everything.

I think it's just down to the fact I've tried to write a few features over the past five years, and I've never been able to finish a single one. I've only written a couple of shorts as well. Now I've managed a 99 page feature in seven weeks. It feels like I've just won an Oscar.

Imagine what I'll be like when I do pick up one of those gold statues...
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Congrats on all who finished and entered.

It seems like a lot of talk is about the weaker elements of each script. I was under the impression this is a 1st draft challenge to get feedback for the rewriting process. Be proud about what you can do within an accelerated time frame.

I found this 7WC very freeing. I submitted my 1st draft without revisions. And I'm pretty happy with it. I had fun writing under the gun - so to speak - and within the given parameters. I eagerly look forward to all your feedback. And the rewrite.

A huge thank you to those that put together these challenges and inspire us to get creative in a genre we might not necessarily write in if left to our own devise.

I can't wait to read these features.  Good luck all!


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Looks like it's going to be a good turnout after all!!

And Arty, I'm drinking on your cheerful behalf tonight!

Cheers and congrats to all who made it to FADE OUT on this challenge...it did exactly what it was designed to do...get us all writing!!!
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Sadly I will miss the deadline    - was feeling like a big fat failure a little while ago - well, not the 'fat' bit...  

Unfortunately, 'life' got in the way and I had to stop writing this last couple of days. I would need at least that time over again to get the first completed draft to any kind of 'readable/makes sense' level.  

I'm still pretty chuffed overall cause I never would have got this far without the challenge in the first place but am disappointed I can't join in with the crowd when they all get posted.

Anyway, you can all count on me for a read.


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I did it! I effing did it!

My first ever feature script, finished.

I'm so proud of myself right now I could burst. It's the best feeling to finally have that monkey off my back.

...It's been emotional.


I'm sure it has been, Arty.

Many congratulations. Hope it's cracked the dam, so to speak, and there's many more to come.

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Finished!

Closed in at 92 pages. This definitely takes a lot out of you. A great exercise of the mind though. Hopefully it shows I learned a little something.

This is the second feature I completed. The first one I barely count, because it was a comedy that was all over the place. This had a little more structure to it.

Good luck to everybody who got their feet wet.



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I've never been able to finish a single one. I've only written a couple of shorts as well. Now I've managed a 99 page feature in seven weeks. It feels like I've just won an Oscar.

Imagine what I'll be like when I do pick up one of those gold statues...


Well there's some positive thinking.  
Good on you mate, I"m happy for you that you got to the finish line.



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Quoted from LC
Sadly I will miss the deadline    - was feeling like a big fat failure a little while ago - well, not the 'fat' bit...  

Unfortunately, 'life' got in the way and I had to stop writing this last couple of days. I would need at least that time over again to get the first completed draft to any kind of 'readable/makes sense' level.  


It's alright. You are in good (?) company.
I think you were looking foward to reading my entry - which didn't even have the main character in it at that time - but as fate has it, that's one less braintrip you have to read for the time being.


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my scripts on ss : http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1095531482/s-45/#num48
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Thanks K...but it's far from a finished product. I need to do a serious rewrite now. The notes will help and hopefully from here, I'll get some more advice on how to make it better.  

Did you get one finished? (hope)

DON, how many features you got man??? *wondering*
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Quoted from LC


Well there's some positive thinking.  
Good on you mate, I"m happy for you that you got to the finish line.



It's funny, there are days when I genuinely believe I could win an Oscar. But then there's others where I think I'll never even get paid for one.

Not sure if I've mentioned it yet, I'm just stoked I've finished a script...

Shame you never finished though, was looking forward to yours. There's still some time...
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Congrats everyone and a special congrats to Arty!  Good job, mate.

Interested to see what these look like.
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Congrats everyone and a special congrats to Arty!  Good job, mate.

Interested to see what these look like.


Thanks man.

Really feeling the love from a few people here with the personal congrats. I guess it's cos most of you know how tough it can be to jump that first hurdle.
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It seems like a lot of talk is about the weaker elements of each script. I was under the impression this is a 1st draft challenge to get feedback for the rewriting process. Be proud about what you can do within an accelerated time frame.


I agree with the direction of your comment, Daniel.

For me, I think the best critique, better said the most useful one is  when a reader points her or his finger onto a specific part, character, twist, whatever, of the story (it doesn't even has to be a huge aspect),  and says:  this, this is good, this works well.

That way the writer can see best what the reader is interested in. I build up by 100% on the parts my readers say: I like this, I want this, more of this. It's the way true potential can be discovered.



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Congrats to all of you who finished one!!! Major achievement!!!  

I did not get mine in on time, but I was at my son's wedding, which was beautiful, btw! Now there's only one dinner left tonight and I'm aiming to have a great time. I was the designated driver yesterday... Anyway, should be back to normal speed by tomorrow afternoon.

I will be attempting to read these as soon as I finish one I'm reading for a friend. My Drpbox is full so if anyone cares to give mine a read, just shoot me a pm and I'll email it instead.

Thanks Don for showcasing these on the home page! Great idea!  


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Thanks K...but it's far from a finished product. I need to do a serious rewrite now. The notes will help and hopefully from here, I'll get some more advice on how to make it better.  

Did you get one finished? (hope)



No, I did not. Maybe it's because I started rewriting along the way, maybe I should have written it from start to finish and then reread. But I started rereading and got discouraged...

And I get very creative looking for things that help me procrastinate. My mind works in intricate ways and that's very bad for me. Presently I am trying to convince myself to stop...

But I'm aiming to finish. Someday.
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Hi guys,

Inbetween the travelling and starting a new job, I didn't manage to find the time to enter this one.

However, I am more than willing to read some of the entries. Doubt that I will have the time to read them all, but if anyone wants to get involved in a script swap, message me and then I will get round to reading your entry as soon as I return from my sister's wedding on Sunday!

Looking forward to it


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Same here Toby. My son got married last week so I didn't get home until Sunday. I have a script though. Got some feedback from Dena and Screenplay Readers so I'm currently working on a rewrite. I won't have time to read 9 features, so I will only read those who offer a read in return. If you want to do a swap I'd be glad to read yours. Dena and Rick offered to read mine and I'm grateful for that.  


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Hey Pia...

Somehow managed to reply to your message, but in the other thread...?

No idea how that happened. Oh, the joys of sitting in a plane, waiting to take off and having to use your phone to browse the internet!


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Sorry guys for bailing out on you. I tried, but I couldn't. Congratulations to everyone who finished writing the draft. Congratulations to whoever wrote a couple of pages in his attempt to write the whole thing. Don't be disheartened, you did well, no matter you didn't finish the whole thing. I'll try to read and review the submitted scripts.
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Pia,

I'll swap with you once my Final Draft is done.  Might take a week or two.  I'm swamped as it is with a dozen projects.  Haven't had the chance to read anything yet.  It's at 71 pages right now.  About 20-30 left.

It's Shadow Games, but it's NOTHING like what's currently featured.  Wish I'd finished this in time for the deadline.  It's vastly superior to what people have read and it's a shame that some might skip the Final Version.  I hope that's not the case.  

Anyway, I'm starting my reads this weekend with: Deep in the Bone.
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I just got my three ratings back from scriptreaders. Had two passes and a consider. The one who gave a consider said it's the highest rating they've given, but from the notes they gave I'm surprised it wasn't a pass.

Still, I've got some good feedback and look forward to the reviews I get on here too. Will definitely be interesting to see how the notes compare from here to there, and whether the money spent is really necessary. Was something I just had to experience for myself though.

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I'm behind on reads...but planning on reading them all soon as the work week is over! Great job to everyone....some good stuff!
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What's the deadline for reviewing?
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What's the deadline for reviewing?


There's no deadline for reviewing. Anyone can read any time.  


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