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Parker
Posted: August 14th, 2007, 8:32pm Report to Moderator
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Isn't there another way to do the star rating? So it's fair? Isn't it possible to have the member show what star rating they chose? That would be fair because then they'd have to at least have a reason if not a proper review. But I know there's restrictions with these types of things so...


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Breanne Mattson
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Quoted from Parker
Isn't there another way to do the star rating? So it's fair? Isn't it possible to have the member show what star rating they chose? That would be fair because then they'd have to at least have a reason if not a proper review. But I know there's restrictions with these types of things so...


Oh, I’m sure if it was displayed who voted and what rating they gave, you would see a different story for the most part.

I can even understand a person who reads and reviews without giving a rating. I could see how that might be difficult. But someone coming in and rating a work a low score without any explanation for the writer is disgusting.


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Oh, damn Bre when you tell people you're a macabre looking criminal it looses it's effect. Try 'Face of a innocent bunny' that would scare the hell out of me come night.


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I'm guilty of reading, reviewing but not star rating. Most of the time I feel like the rating it started with is appropriate, I guess. I will say that all of the ones I read have been extremely good, imaginative and I have learned a ton from everyone's critiques, especially those on my own little project. A big thanks ya'll, and concur with Ziggy-ain't many things scarier than the face of an innocent bunny, cept maybe a basket full of fluffy little kittens. Yikes!


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At first I reviewed and star rated, I think the last one I didn't.  The only thing I may be guilty of is overrating a couple of pieces.  Of course, if it was disabled, then no biggie.

But further on Breanne's point is if you've ever done stand up in front of comedians.  It's really hard to get a laugh, because of the same ego thing brought up about a jealous writer knocking people down.  Comedians refuse to laugh at other people jokes because they don't want to admit someone else can be funny.  Same with writers.  I've been to several writing classes where there were people who liked to knock pieces down. but never came back with what they liked, or if they did, it was as though they had to force themselves to say something nice.  This kind of hurt them in the end, though when their pieces were reviewed.  Most people did take the high road, though, but they looked for every flaw, and they weren't hard to find.  But we still said something constructive.  Even me, and I'm a crank at heart.

Not everybody gets the point that there's a respect issue involved.  I was a Knicks fan in the 90's and hated the Bulls, but I respected them.  Same here.  If I read a script that's really good, I think the writer should know that by both the review and the rating.  


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Breanne Mattson
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Thanks Eburke for your comments.

Blakkwolfe, a review is worth a lot more than a star rating. It helps the author to improve. And it’s certainly understandable that someone would find it difficult to rate unless they’d really thought about the specific criteria to look for in a good script beforehand. I think you’re doing a great job.

The biggest problem I see with the rating system is that there are always people who give low star ratings to scripts without telling the author why. That does nothing to help the author improve. Given that low ratings without reviews happen most often to scripts that are doing well strongly suggests it’s just people trying to tear down a script that’s doing well. That to me is why it can never really work unless the anonymity is removed.

Thanks both of you for your insights. I wish everyone could behave so professionally.


Breanne




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I must admit that I haven't rated any of the scripts I read.  At first I simply forgot and then I didn't se the point because, like you said Bre, some scripts had great reviews but few votes and vice versa.  Now I know why.  Strangely my script got mixed reviews but had a high vote score, then without any further reviews my vote rating nose dived?


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I've read and reviewed about 25 of the OWC scripts and opened many others. That said, there are still a few that I plan on reading. In the mean time, below is a list of the scripts I most enjoyed:

Cork -- This is a well written script that held my attention. Whoever wrote it knows what they're doing.

Light Mist Forming -- Another well written script; maybe my favorite. No, it not without its problems, even so, it's written in such away that I found myself luxuriating in the words. I love words!

Four Men In a Boat This is, imo, a stageplay, very "talky", but engaging.

The River Is Her Home -- A daring piece that bucks convention. Beautifully written. Poetic.

Miss Bronikus -- I love the wild, untamed, 'let it all loose' vibe. Very imaginative. I suspect the author is new to the game; but as creative as s/he is, I expect interesting, edge of your seat, scripts will follow.

Three, Two, One -- Not the best script. Not even near to being the best script. Still, as The Boy Who Could Fly said, the guy goes "balls out." You gotta respect that. At least I do.  

Seth


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As for the star rating, I think it;s bunk, reviews are much better, I rated a couple then gave up, seemed pointless to me.


The star rating is only to see whose script wins the recording-thing.  I agree with you that reviews are much better.



I wonder how many are going to participate in the next challenge, 80, I'd need a month or more to through most of em.


The October one will most likely be horror, a popular genre.  I wouldn't be surprised if we came close to 100 entries.  Don should start this one in early October.


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I am new to this site and I just finished reading this thread -- I think that's the proper term, as I have never been part of a board before.  

I found the site and the OWC the Wednesday before the script was due, and I rushed to get mine submitted on time.  It was my very first script, although I have been interested in scriptwriting for years, and I have recently begun to read scripts that I have found on the internet.  

It was thrilling for me to finish and submit my script, even though I mistakenly wrote my script as part of a larger effort, rather than a complete short piece in and of itself.  Nonetheless, the achievement for me was in the completion and submission.  This exercise has also helped me to come to understand more precisely the method by which re-writing is so crucial to a good script, and the way in which the script actually "evolves" itself through the writer.

Due to some time constraints related to recent travel, I have only reviewed the three scripts I was requested to review, and while I did so in depth, I intend to read them all and will give critiques when I do.

As I read this general thread, I was really impressed that the writers are so involved with this site, and I am completely jazzed to have become a part of it.  My late beloved materal grandmother used to call her family "my people," and I feel as though, here, I have found my writing "people."

Special note to Ziggy:  Girl, I have seen you grow between your first post on in this thread on August 6th, and your last on August 14th.  At 17, you are still a child, and one who seems to have had a bit of a hard life so far.  Here, you are among people who want to help you succeed, and don't judge you for what you are.  You said that you are not a very likable person, but I don't believe that.  Perhaps other people have told you that, and you mistakenly listened.  Don't think that, or it will be true.  I liken it to this philosophy:  If you think you can't, you're right.  If you think you can, you're right.  In other words, it's up to you.  But because I have seen the openness of your responses to the "conversation" among you and the other members, and your softening through it, I want to tell you that I like you.
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So how much longer before we know who won, and who wrote what?


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yeah tomorrow seems as good as any day to reveal it.  The reading of scripts has pretty much died down completely.  Amazingly, every script was read and reviewed multiple times.  

Lets reveal names.  Name names!


  I hope I didn't come off rude!  

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I heard it was the 12th?

But since that's passed...
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As Breanne mentioned, August 12th is the target date.  However, when I put the original plan together, I didn't figure on getting so many entries.  I would like everyone (including myself) to have the chance to read all the scripts before I release the names.  Also, I'd like to select the one script to be recorded before I know who wrote what, so that date may get pushed back.

Don


Don originally planned on releasing the names on the 12th. However, as he said some posts back, due to the high participation, he might not be able to read them all by then.

Don wants to read all the entries - without knowing who wrote them. He’s only one person who has to read 35 scripts and evaluate which one is overall the best one to go to iScript - and he’s got a life outside of here. He’s going as fast as he can. But he wants to be fair to everyone.

It won’t be much longer. Just a little more patience.


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Quoted from Breanne Mattson


Don originally planned on releasing the names on the 12th. However, as he said some posts back, due to the high participation, he might not be able to read them all by then.

Don wants to read all the entries - without knowing who wrote them. He’s only one person who has to read 35 scripts and evaluate which one is overall the best one to go to iScript - and he’s got a life outside of here. He’s going as fast as he can. But he wants to be fair to everyone.

It won’t be much longer. Just a little more patience.


Breanne



Bre is entirely correct.  

The names of who wrote what will be announced tomorrow evening.  I've just finished reading all 35 scripts.  I still don't know who wrote what, yet.  

Please note, I haven't been able to comment on every single one of them, yet.  That will happen over the course of the next few weeks.  {I printed them all out to read in the bathroom, at the swimming pool, before bed, etc. - note to self.  Insist that each script has a title on it}.  

The script selected to be read via iScript.com won't be announced until early next week.  I will need to get permission of the writer to get it recorded and host it on the site for at least a month.

I the mean time, you can talk about the inspiration for the fake names or speculation on who wrote what

- Don


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