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DarrenJamesSeeley
Posted: October 21st, 2012, 10:29am Report to Moderator
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As I read this, it is exactly 12 hours and 15 minutes since I caught Re-Animator on cable. I'm also a fan of David Lynch -Wild At Heart is my favorite -and David Cronernberg. For some strange reason I watched all three Hostels and all the Saws. It's also been a long night.

Gore doesn't bug me too much. Even I get a little rough sometimes. But I know where to draw the line. I also know that I don't throw in an abracadabra moment and have a roomful of bound and gagged hostages come out from nowhere. (or should I say 'abracadaver'?)

So, after reading this, I asked myself three questions.

1 - If this were filmed as a short, your actors are working for almonds. Not only to they have to recite banal dialog, but they have to show T&A, and act this out. It'll cost you a pretty penny.

2 - I don't know if you are a big fan of early Nicolas Roeg or the late Ken Russell, but I wonder if you were into Kenneth Anger.

3- I wasn't aware snuff required scripts,

Y'know, there's not much holding this together except for shock value. I would have liked this more if Rthe characters simply shut up, the more they talked the worse it got for me.

On a tech note, there is a serious issue with gender-pronoun agreement (Regina says something, next action line starts with 'He' and so on)


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My eyes glazed over at page 4.  The dialog got to be monotonous.  Just sounded like ranting after a while.


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Good news is I didn't find it a bad as some think...but then again, I didn't read very far.

Sorry. This just isn't my taste. The dialogue just reads like a long rant.

Good job finishing the OWC.
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Scar Tissue Films
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I checked this out due to the controversy.

Was surprised to find very little in there. Couple of kills, a pair of tits. Nothing that's not in the tamest of horrors. Don't know what the problem is tbh.

I thought it was quite good. I enjoyed the two characters. Only problem was that there wasn't really much of a story to have them interact with.

I think there's a lot more potential here than most others have picked up on. Just my opinion.
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
Was surprised to find very little in there. Couple of kills, a pair of tits. Nothing that's not in the tamest of horrors. Don't know what the problem is tbh.


Rick, you read the scrpit and you don't know what the problem is?  You're saying you see this in the tamest of horror movies?  Hmmm, let's see...

We've got a character sawing women's heads off, then munching their pussies, all the while inanely conversing with the other sicko.

Please tell me which tame horror movies this takes place in, so I can be sure to never see them.

The reality is that this is easily X rated material that can really only appeal to sick twisted fucks.  What am I (or you) missing here?
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I might be wrong but I missed the supernatural part of the story and the dialogue lost me because I was focused too much on what Joe was doing. It was different I'll give you that but like Stevie pointed out it reminded me off American Psycho to a degree with the talking while killing aspect. Overall not bad. Congrats on finishing the OWC.
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Scar Tissue Films
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Rick, you read the scrpit and you don't know what the problem is?  You're saying you see this in the tamest of horror movies?  Hmmm, let's see...

We've got a character sawing women's heads off, then munching their pussies, all the while inanely conversing with the other sicko.

Please tell me which tame horror movies this takes place in, so I can be sure to never see them.

The reality is that this is easily X rated material that can really only appeal to sick twisted fucks.  What am I (or you) missing here?


Sex is in pretty much every horror I've ever seen.

In the script all someone is doing is sticking his head between a girl's legs. On film you don't exactly have to show graphic close ups of it.

As for sawing people's heads off...again...what's the problem?

Your favourite film Hostel has far more horrific scenes in it.

The overall tone of it was quite light and comedic as well...reminded me most of House of 1000 Corpses. Just didn't see the problem.
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This was sort of a modern attempt at Grand Guignol.  Went for the juxtaposition of raunchy gore with bleak, fatalistic world views.  But it came off more like two characters regurgitating facts and philosophies they heard on the news and then tried to pass off as their own.

I will say, this is one of the few times where the victims in a horror script were probably praying for death to arrive quicker so they wouldn't have to listen to Joe and Regina's tripe anymore.  "Could you hurry up sawing through my vertebrae, Joe?  Regina's starting to talk about moral human happiness again."
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


Sex is in pretty much every horror I've ever seen.

In the script all someone is doing is sticking his head between a girl's legs. On film you don't exactly have to show graphic close ups of it.

As for sawing people's heads off...again...what's the problem?

Your favourite film Hostel has far more horrific scenes in it.

The overall tone of it was quite light and comedic as well...reminded me most of House of 1000 Corpses. Just didn't see the problem.


Yeah Jeff, what's the story?

Haven't you ever growled a chick then decapitated her? I thought you were Da Man?



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Pompous Gore Porn? Hmm...

Like Rick, I don't really see it as that offensive, to be honest. I've seen worse, There's a genre of Japanese films that caters for this kind of sex/gore crossover type thing. Like most of those, this piece isn't very effective, to be honest. I tuned out of the dialogue cos' I didn't understand or care what they were harping on about.  
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Not sure what to think about this one.  Visually arresting.
Essentially this is a long philosophical monologue, which I generally find hard to follow, made somewhat manageable by a lot of gore.

I think i missed the point.


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Quoted from Dreamscale
this is easily X rated material that can really only appeal to sick twisted fucks.


Not all of us.  I like to think of myself as sick and a little twisted here and there, but this one didn't really appeal to me too much.

While I think this could get away with a hard R rating, (if a director takes this one, he probably wouldn't show any closeups exactly), I think the downfall of this one is the banality of the story.  (Found it funny that someone else referred to it as banal, too.  Thought that word only popped into my head as I was reading.)

Nothing really much happens and we don't know enough about the story to figure out why all these people are here anyway, and how they got there.

I also didn't see anything about something supernatural happening in the past, either.

My guess is the author just wanted to see everybody talk about how they fit in the dinosaur and the mime, which I'm happy that no one seemed to have mentioned about.  (Hopefully, my suggesting it doesn't get everybody talking about it.  :-)

- Mark


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Problems with the writing here from the very start:

'Lit by a cheap lamp and dim bulb, a topless woman sits beneath sheets, propped up on pillows.'

If she beneath the sheets, A is it relevant that she is topless B. how would we know, unless those sheet are see through or clinging to her very tightly


'REGINA, 30s, wears a dinosaur mask on her face as she sits motionless to watch hurricane strength rain and wind beat the window outside.'

You intro her first as a woman, then switch to Regina. Why not start with Regina, or when she removes the mask, intro her properly to us?

'A large caliber pistol rests on the worn sheets beside her.' A medium shot won't SHOW that this is a large caliber pistol and in real terms, it's not necessary to the plot of the story.

Why the separate scene heading? We don't change location, we are still in the motel room.

Okay, so dinosaur masks and mime/clown references a plenty here. Another pisser I'm guessing, or rather hoping.
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Though I've calmed down a bit about this script - i.e. I think it needs a bit of work - and whether it's a pisstake or not, I think it hit upon a duality that has potential.

The author here took the requirements literally.  Rather than making a decision between good and evil - the author examines what the characters believe is good and evil - so instead they are making a decision about, or defining what is good and what is evil.  They are the tool of morality.

At least that's how I see it.  Yes, it's arty - even if it is a pisstake.  
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Artsy for sure. One of the weirdest scripts I've ever read. Not saying that in a bad way...

I did like the ending....not one of my favorites but good job on completing the owc.
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