Yes I agree.

I can't wait for this OWC to be over, so I can get my embarrassment done and over with. And I can't wait for the next one where hopefully I will be able to redeem myself.

Starting to write a little mini-series based on the FALLOUT video games. Just a little training ground until I'm good enough to write other things.

Taken a lot of advice from this OWC though, and find it is helping a lot with my writing already.

Quoted from Neighbour Yes I agree. I can't wait for this OWC to be over, so I can get my embarrassment done and over with. And I can't wait for the next one where hopefully I will be able to redeem myself. Starting to write a little mini-series based on the FALLOUT video games. Just a little training ground until I'm good enough to write other things. Taken a lot of advice from this OWC though, and find it is helping a lot with my writing already.

Hey Seb, in my first OWC I pretty much came last.

Six weeks later in the next OWC - there were two back to back - I took a mug home - you just got to be a fast learner

Ahh, the mug...

Well, my votes are in - just hope i'm not too late for them to count

I think there were 55 entries - I only counted 48 making it to the end, so I guess some pulled up short (bruising reviews?). Can't see 'Chariots' up there.

As for guessing who wrote what - not a clue, but is it agreed that Jeff did 'Samhain?'. And I guess this is the bit when everyone PM's a sh*t load of apologies...  

Dogfight!

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26. Chariots in the Cyanide by Eighteen - Horror - Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity and Personal Courage has just been thrown out the window. Try not to lose your head�
Brief -

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Script format - Good
Final word - Can't afford to produce this

     Lo/Hi Estimated Budget Range
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Adherence to Given Criteria:
Modern Witches and/or Warlocks -
Horror -

Good work, Ray, I know a ton went into it. Thank you.

Two quick questions/comments:

1) I did not interpret the "modern witch story" in the same way you did. I understood it to be a witch story in a modern setting, as in the present...as opposed to another time period. I see no reason why standard western classic witches were disallowed. I didn't even think of it that way until you said so. I'm pretty sure the parameters were meant to be very broad here...and likely include Judeo-Christian witches

2) curious about your definition of horror. The script Hex had supernatural stuff, a man whose penis exploded in blood, and who then died in front of his family. Another script had hints of a demon baby and a killing by strangulation along with a butcher knife ending. I don't understand how these are not horror. How do youdefine horror?

You've done a fine job with this, Ray. A very fine job indeed. I wish you'd waited until the names were announced though. I am positively ITCHING to retort to mine.

There's an element in my script which you brought up in regards to production cost. Said consideration was not lost on me by a damn sight. It came up the moment I conceived the idea. I think there's a way around it that is not nearly as complicated but since you've come up with what you did, I don't think it was communicated well enough in the script. I'd hope you'd be able to help me out with this when the names go up.

Also, I second Kevin's comment about modern witches. Would be interested in hearing you expand on that as well.

I think the consensus between the powers that be here at SS was to deliberately leave the interpretation of "modern witches" open.

Another producer at another production company may very well have been looking for classic Judeo-Christian demonized witches, and clearly there is a large market and large content pool to serve that market.

I chose to serve a different market. A specialty niche market: Literally "modern witches."

Keep in mind that when ProdCos send out blind script calls that their readers, as directed by their employers - the producers, will be tasked to screen for specific criteria.

Consider... what if the criteria was "Modern Christian Horror", or "Modern Buddhist Horror?"
I believe recently there was a some poll that flagged there are now more non-religious affiliated Americans than religious affiliated Americans.
The Pagans/Witch/Warlock community is present in America.
Para-Christians aren't the only market out there.

Quoted from KevinLenihan I don't understand how these are not horror. How do youdefine horror?

As to what's horror and what isn't, or where's the boundary between supernaturalism and horror, well... that's a personal call.
If I see it I see it.
If I don't I don't.

Quoted from KevinLenihan The script Hex had supernatural stuff, a man whose penis exploded in blood, and who then died in front of his family.

'HEX' was 9.5 pages long.
How many pages did it take to get to the exploding dick?
Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Drama. Oooo! Aghhh! last page and a half.
Meh... not much horror, is there?
There were TOOOOOO MANNNYYYY of these back-ended "horror" story submissions.
When you come to my restaurant and order a hamburger do you wanna pay me for a burger with bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, burger & pickle?
I didn't think so.

Quoted from KevinLenihan Another script had hints of a demon baby and a killing by strangulation along with a butcher knife ending.

I believe that was 'Caesarean Fiction' and that is 7.8 pages of a crazy guy talking to himself.
My remarks included "Finished it. I like it. It isn't witchcraft, it's a mental health story, and more thriller than horror by far."
Maybe I've been around more schizophrenics than the average bear.
This smacked of more mental health issue than an actual witch doing something to him.


What do you guys think happens when you submit your screenplays into a ProdCo for consideration?
Think you're the only screenplay provider?
No. You gotta compete with ten, twenty, a hundred, a thousand, four thousand other chumps trying to spend "MY" money. LOL!

Turn the tables and the perspective changes.

K, thanks for responding. Again, good work.

Quoted from Dreamscale I wrote the one nobody liked and some even called a pisser for some unknown reason.

When I got early comments on mine, I thought the same thing. Then some liked one thing and hated another. Then I looked at my work about to rewrite it and I was surprised that there was only one spelling error when for three days I thought I nearly didn't have a pot to piss in.

Quoted from James McClung There's an element in my script which you brought up in regards to production cost. Said consideration was not lost on me by a damn sight. It came up the moment I conceived the idea. I think there's a way around it that is not nearly as complicated but since you've come up with what you did, I don't think it was communicated well enough in the script. I'd hope you'd be able to help me out with this when the names go up.

I think that's a fine idea.

Honestly, the story I felt had the highest risk-reward potential would be ENORMOUSLY cost prohibitive to shoot in a traditional fashion.
However, I figured out a work-around that would make it actually one the most economical stories available - but would also require a MONSTER overhaul of meeting the criteria.

So, I'm certainly game for a suggestion of "HOW can I make this happen?"
Not that I am, but the principle I've overlooked could be very useful to me when I actually do get around to producing films. (Working on the distribution and marketing pipeline, now.)

Is it, like, bad luck for peeps to post to this thread on the eve of the big announcement? It was so lively and then - BAM! Nuthin all day long. What gives?

Quoted from SAC Is it, like, bad luck for peeps to post to this thread on the eve of the big announcement? It was so lively and then - BAM! Nuthin all day long. What gives?

No.
But it might go into another thread. Sometimes that happens.

Must be time to out ourselves by now?

I know pia and Dena/Kevin have. Maybe I should wait unit the readers vote is over