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SimplyScripts Screenwriting Discussion Board    Screenwriting Discussion    The 2020 Writers' Tournament  ›  Round 1: Money is the Root of All Evil. Moderators: Mr. Blonde
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Dreamscale
Posted: July 7th, 2020, 11:06pm Report to Moderator
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Nope. You're not. You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully asked if you would remove the personal attack. You chose not to.



Remove my personal attack?  The one that's 100% true and verified?  Or the one, about Warren being a fucking little worthless snake, who thinks he's a Hell of alot more than he is?

Fucking BULLSHIT, Libby!  You didn't need to make this about me.

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Remove my personal attack?  The one that's 100% true and verified?  Or the one, about Warren being a fucking little worthless snake, who thinks he's a Hell of alot more than he is?

Fucking BULLSHIT, Libby!  You didn't need to make this about me.


Can we not?


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Reef Dreamer
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before the challenge

-   yeah lets all chill out, its hard, no time, really difficult criteria, etc etc

during the challenge

-   this doesn't work at all, fails the criteria etc etc


And by the way, I catch myself on this journey as well, I'm just curious as to how we go from one to the other so quick. Tired? too many to read? A release from writing? Couple with our normal ego's of course.

Re the assessment of this and whether something ticks the boxes, im taking a relaxed view on the specifics as we had five things to attend to in five pages, in 72 hours. time to chill.

One other thing - it's only five pages!

My preference, and that may not appeal to others, is that scripts of this length need to be really focused, usually one to three scenes.

oh, and the story, or scene (talking heads scene are perfectly good for this length) needs to work, be interesting, have a suitable twist or conclusion etc

Thanks Don and Blondie for putting this together


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One thing I'm noticing, as are others, is some seem to think the topic and elements are covered adequately, while others believe they are not covered at all - in the same script!

Personally I'm trying not to be picky as it is very obvious the writers and the readers are interpreting things, especially the topic, in quite different ways.


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Always the way imho. And that latter part of your sentence Mark, is right. Right?

The topic/theme, we were told,, can be interpreted as good, bad or indifferent.

The way I see it with the grading, the most popular stories and the ones that leave an impression are going to win out anyway.


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Personally... I see theme as part of the criteria and will therefore comment on it as I see it in the context of it being part of the central elements of the script, just like use of the item or location.


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I think it's important to reiterate Blondie's words regarding theme:

Money is the root of all evil

Your job is to deal with the theme positive, negative or indifferent.

Adding more commentary:

I definitely think the theme is following only an afterthought or cursory mention in a lot of stories in this WT.  To focus too much on it (even though that is the directive) tends to derail some of the narratives and I agree with Stevie's examples. The Forget Me Not fantasy tale would have suffered if it focused too much on the money aspect, and the other tale Upon Reflection did suffer a bit with its radical location change and didn't quite work for me in the end even though the story about Hysterical paroxysm is so clever and entertaining with fitting all the elements in.

That's the difficult challenge I suppose.



My last comment about theme and the task given - not lending credence to it, or to say the story would have suffered because of it, is like you being asked to write a book report on Martin Luther King Jr., and you write a brilliant one... except it was on Rosa Parks.

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AJR, maybe we'll all get better at nailing the theme and all the elements as the tournament goes on.

I know when I read my own script, there's hints at the main theme given but I'll admit the major theme is something else altogether. Just being honest.


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I know that since Sean is a nice guy, and he knows that we're all going to have a turd pile left by then, in week 5 he'll say 'writer's choice, no theme - write whatever you want.'

Right, Blondie?

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Quoted from ajr
I know that since Sean is a nice guy, and he knows that we're all going to have a turd pile left by then, in week 5 he'll say 'writer's choice, no theme - write whatever you want.'

Right, Blondie?

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AJR, maybe we'll all get better at nailing the theme and all the elements as the tournament goes on.

I know when I read my own script, there's hints at the main theme given but I'll admit the major theme is something else altogether. Just being honest.


I think if I had added one word, that’s it, more would have got a key element. These are fine margins.

Hence why I’m not so picky on these things - do I like the story/scene or not ?


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Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final
Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards.  Third - Honolulu
Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place
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Surprised by how many Westerns are in week 1. Are folks getting it out of the way, perhaps?


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Mr. Blonde
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I know that since Sean is a nice guy, and he knows that we're all going to have a turd pile left by then, in week 5 he'll say 'writer's choice, no theme - write whatever you want.'

Right, Blondie?


Of course not. Then again, if any of you are clairvoyant and you can figure out what's going on, you'll already know what the week 5 theme is going to be...


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I wouldn’t be surprised if he hadn’t left the building by then  


Now, Bill, I thought you had a little more faith in me than that...


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Surprised by how many Westerns are in week 1. Are folks getting it out of the way, perhaps?


I had a feeling that a lot of westerns and crime would go off the board quickly for that exact reason. Get them out of there while you still have all your options available to you.


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MarkRenshaw
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Read most of them, any I've missed I'll pick up tomorrow.

I'm always impressed by the OWC entries. No matter what, a writer has had the guts to create something out of nothing and put it out there for other writers to try and tear apart. There are not many out there willing to attempt this.

The WT's entries have taken this to a whole new level. You've all had less time, more constraints and yet, BAM! You all knocked it out of the park.

Give yourselves a much-deserved pat on the back!


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Done with my reads as well! Yes!
Some nice stories and entries in the mix.
In fact although all may use another rewrite - I liked this WT entries better than the last OWC and OWC before that and OWC before that.

I'm really surprised at the outcome.

You've done well, Sean!
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