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khamanna
Posted: July 28th, 2020, 6:27am Report to Moderator
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I wouldn’t mind a nice healthy dissention. In old times we used to have mods chase us and take out posts in bulks!
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Quoted from LC


Darren could comment on his own script for sure without revealing he's the author.
I don't like doing it cause I'm too obvious, but I notice some people are pretty canny.




That's always backfired in the past. Not that folks figured out it was me who wrote it, but in order to"throw people off" I'd throw in a few criticisms of my own work which others missed. Then other folks chime in, and in 'agreeing' with me, the reviews take a bigger nose dive  





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Agree with DJS on this - positive comments seem like a campaign for your own script, and negative comments are just weird...

If someone wants to spend the time figuring out which single script I haven't commented on, then have it yet. I'm too busy to engage in that.

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I just don't bother either, minefield whichever side you decide to take...


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Ugh. Now I have to start thinking which one is Darrens and if I missed his protagonist as well.


If I say yes, would that narrow it down? lol


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The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.

To quote Sean
"This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."

So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.

I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.

*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.


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Quoted from AnthonyCawood
The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.

To quote Sean
"This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."

So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.

I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.

*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.


That's how I understood Sean as well - your main character is a bad guy. This is actually simple, I agree with him on the fact that it's simple to understand. Unless i totally misunderstood what he said and "your protag" doesn't mean "your main character"

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khamanna
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@Darren, I think you just need to forget about it.
I wanted to respond to you on mine last time. No one suggested the thing you said, you totally mixed up things there, cos you studied history and mixed up the names. But I took ahold of myself. Now it's your turn I guess.
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Quoted from AnthonyCawood
The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.

To quote Sean
"This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."

So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.

I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.

*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.


Agreed. I've also noticed if the villain has a reason for being the bad guy, some folks seem to think that makes them not a true villain as it is understandable why they are being bad, but that is not correct. Most villains see themselves as the hero and have reasons for their villany.

It's bloody tough coming up with anything with the criteria we have left so I just think we should cut each other some slack.  



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Quoted from AnthonyCawood
The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.

To quote Sean
"This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."

So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.

I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.

*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.


That was my interpretation as well.  



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It's bloody tough coming up with anything with the criteria we have left so I just think we should cut each other some slack.  



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Quoted from MarkRenshaw
It's bloody tough coming up with anything with the criteria we have left so I just think we should cut each other some slack.  

It is, and I agree.

Having said that, I've been around these parts awhile now, and though some people are kinder in their reviews than others, overall there's no cutting of the slack in anon challenges. It's dog eat dog just as Blondie intended it to be.


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It is, and I agree.

Having said that, I've been around these parts awhile now, and though some people are kinder in their reviews than others, overall there's no cutting of the slack in anon challenges. It's dog eat dog just as Blondie intended it to be.


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Quoted from LC

It is, and I agree.

Having said that, I've been around these parts awhile now, and though some people are kinder in their reviews than others, overall there's no cutting of the slack in anon challenges. It's dog eat dog just as Blondie intended it to be.


Very true. I'm being more lenient with reviews and not disqualifying anyone if they have at least attempted to include the parameters, but my score is still based on how much I enjoyed the story, the characters and if they have put an original spin on it.



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That's me read, commented and voted.
Personally I think there was a lot of creativity, imagination and very decent scripts this week.
I didn't read one bad story, just different levels of good.


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