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Breanne Mattson
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Quoted from James McClung
The truth is there aren't that many female screenwriters or filmmakers in general...


Yes but why? Are these numbers due to women not being just as interested in writing or cultural expectations put upon women.

Women are still expected to place family, children, marriage, and men above everything else. We are taught from an early age that men are more important than we are. You may not see that but it’s true.

Also, there’s the greater difficulty for women to get into the business. Hollywood keeps getting called liberal but in truth it’s still very much a boy’s club. They’re not truly liberal at all. Like most big business, it’s more about money. Even with the recent development of the “strong female lead,” the women are basically just men with boobs. They may look good and may dress sexily but they punch, kick, and do the same violent things that male characters are so known for.

The world is still struggling with the idea of how a woman can assert herself without compromising her femininity. And a great part of the reason is precisely because so few people are interested in things written by women.

Believe me. I know. I’ve sat in business meetings and listened to idiots offer dunderheaded ideas that defied logic and saw those ideas taken seriously. Many times, when I’ve offered an alternate solution of my own, supported by mathematics and science, ideas that were innovative and progressive, I’ve been looked at like I was a silly girl.

You don’t know what it’s like to be assumed to be silly before you even open your mouth. The closest experience you have to that was when you were a child. But I’m not a child. I’m a grown woman and many of my ideas are better every way you look at it but time and again I see males get ideas implemented while my much more efficient ideology goes ignored.

I’ve worked circles around male co-workers while they continue to get raises ahead of me for reasons that shouldn’t even be a factor. He’s got a family or whatever. There are female workers who are single moms but not once have I ever heard a supervisor say, oh she needs a raise because she’s got a little baby. The double standard is very real. A lot of men just don’t want to see it.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just couldn’t believe you said there aren’t many female screenwriters like women just don’t do that or something. Because there’s a lot more to it than that. Sorry. It kind of hurt my feelings, I guess.


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Breanne Mattson
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That makes two us Breanne! One of my friends is doing gender studies and he told me there are just as many differences between individual males, as there are between males and females. I've also heard there are as many forms of masculinity as there are men.


I can see that.


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James McClung
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I think you're right, tomson. I think people are over-analyzing the subject, myself included; when it comes to film or horror or both, I'm a sucker for debates.

I agree about going by emotion when it comes to writing horror as well. Horror's great because how raw the emotions are (or can be). That's one of many reasons why it's my genre of choice.


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James McClung
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Quoted from Breanne Mattson


Yes but why? Are these numbers due to women not being just as interested in writing or cultural expectations put upon women.

Women are still expected to place family, children, marriage, and men above everything else. We are taught from an early age that men are more important than we are. You may not see that but it’s true.

Also, there’s the greater difficulty for women to get into the business. Hollywood keeps getting called liberal but in truth it’s still very much a boy’s club. They’re not truly liberal at all. Like most big business, it’s more about money. Even with the recent development of the “strong female lead,” the women are basically just men with boobs. They may look good and may dress sexily but they punch, kick, and do the same violent things that male characters are so known for.

The world is still struggling with the idea of how a woman can assert herself without compromising her femininity. And a great part of the reason is precisely because so few people are interested in things written by women.

Believe me. I know. I’ve sat in business meetings and listened to idiots offer dunderheaded ideas that defied logic and saw those ideas taken seriously. Many times, when I’ve offered an alternate solution of my own, supported by mathematics and science, ideas that were innovative and progressive, I’ve been looked at like I was a silly girl.

You don’t know what it’s like to be assumed to be silly before you even open your mouth. The closest experience you have to that was when you were a child. But I’m not a child. I’m a grown woman and many of my ideas are better every way you look at it but time and again I see males get ideas implemented while my much more efficient ideology goes ignored.

I’ve worked circles around male co-workers while they continue to get raises ahead of me for reasons that shouldn’t even be a factor. He’s got a family or whatever. There are female workers who are single moms but not once have I ever heard a supervisor say, oh she needs a raise because she’s got a little baby. The double standard is very real. A lot of men just don’t want to see it.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just couldn’t believe you said there aren’t many female screenwriters like women just don’t do that or something. Because there’s a lot more to it than that. Sorry. It kind of hurt my feelings, I guess.


Sorry, Breanne. I didn't mean for my comment to be taken that way. I thought I was just stating a fact.

Personally, I think there should be more women making films, especially horror. They've definitely made some great ones, in fact, some of them better than many directed by men (American Psycho, Ravenous, Pet Semetery, etc.)



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Breanne Mattson
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Quoted from James McClung
Sorry, Breanne. I didn't mean for my comment to be taken that way. I thought I was just stating a fact.


I know you didn’t mean anything by it. Sorry I got a little frazzled. I got my feathers ruffled - hehe. A bee in my bonnet. A burr in my saddle -- hahaha.

What you said is true.


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DEBRA HILL

Debra Hill worked with director John Carpenter on many of his early films, and was even serving as producer on the remake of his film The Fog.

Debra was one of Hollywood's best-known and popular female producers.

Debra was a member of both the Producers Guild of America and the executive committee of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' producers branch.

She was honored by Women in Film in 2003.

(After being honored by Women in Film in 2003) she said, "I hope some day there won't be a need for Women in Film. That it will be People in Film. That it will be equal pay, equal rights and equal job opportunities for everybody."

Debra passed away in March 2005 after a long struggle with cancer..

Debra was a real inspiration. She also co-wrote Halloween I and II and The Fog - she was just as important as Carpenter, if not more so.. Have a look at Carpenter's record of success without Debra, his work and success is very checkered..

Debra Hill on IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0384185/

have a look see, her contributions to American cinema is an outstanding achievement and a testiment to her as a unique person and filmmaker..

Debra is one of my Heroines..
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This is Kevan, the encyclopaedia man, my friend!
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thegardenstate89
Posted: February 7th, 2006, 8:11pm Report to Moderator
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Professor Kevan we should call him. I got an English paper due soon on The Tale of Two Cities, you think you do the honors Kevan?

Just kiddin there. Interesting points you've made on your last few posts.
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aztec66k
Posted: February 9th, 2006, 10:50pm Report to Moderator
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horror is the most popular because there are so few elements to it, yet you can expand it to a variety of topics.
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dogglebe
Posted: February 9th, 2006, 10:54pm Report to Moderator
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This is the thread that never ends.
This is the thread that never ends.
Why, tell me why
Won't this thread ever die,
This is the thread that never ends.....


Phil
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Quoted from thegardenstate89
I got an English paper due soon on The Tale of Two Cities, you think you do the honors Kevan?


Oh. My. God.

I am a tale of two cities beast.

That was the only final I aced.


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aztec66k
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Quoted from dogglebe
This is the thread that never ends.
This is the thread that never ends.
Why, tell me why
Won't this thread ever die,
This is the thread that never ends.....


Phil


We should rename this thread one of the following two names:
Jason Voorhees
or
Michael Myers

They just.  Won't.  Die!
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Takeshi
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Quoted from dogglebe
This is the thread that never ends.
This is the thread that never ends.
Why, tell me why
Won't this thread ever die,
This is the thread that never ends.....

Phil


It makes sense when you think about it. If horror is the most popular genre on this site, then a post asking why is it the most popular?, should be the busiest.

But enough is enough. You guys want to know what the answer to the question is?
Well this it: 42.
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dogglebe
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Quoted from aztec66k


We should rename this thread one of the following two names:
Jason Voorhees
or
Michael Myers

They just.  Won't.  Die!


And in my best Donald Pleasance voice:  "But Sheriff.  You've got to believe me.  This thread isn't human!"


Phil

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thegardenstate89
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I thought I tried to end it a long time ago but it came it back at around page 8. My god I've created a monster....


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