Quoted from Felipe I always love giving small people a reason to feel big.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to point to one of your reviews where you have gone through a bad script and pointed out every error in grammar.

When I go through a script I commit myself to reading it entirely and make notes throughout. Even a good script can take several hours out of my day. Since joining this site I have actually resolved to read scripts for a certain duration of my day. i don't want to do it, I'd much rather be writing my own... but I believe in putting back what i take, even giving more. However I flat out refuse to give people English lessons or even read scripts that are so wrong it would take an hour to correct the errors in grammar on the first page.

This is a screenwriting forum and people posting here could at least have the decency to have a good grasp of the English language before attempting to write in it... and I don't mean foreign speakers either. Too many seem to think screenwriting is an easy way to make money. It's not easy... it's bloody hard... and I'm only interested in the guys that I consider at least have a chance of getting somewhere. I don't see why you have an issue with what I choose to review...

Ah yes... as you stated, it is poisonous, it breeds and... is superior. LOL

Well let's see yours then.

Quoted from DustinBowcot Perhaps you'd be kind enough to point to one of your reviews where you have gone through a bad script and pointed out every error in grammar.

Who reads a feature and comments on every typo or grammar? Most people focus on the story ans characters unless the writer is a good friend and the script is intended for a competition.

It takes me 5-6 hours to review a script, btw. Also, I'm one of those foreign people who's first language is not English. My English has improved 100% since I joined SS. I now have over 20 shorts made and 3 features. Do I want you to read my scripts? No, because you probably couldn't stand the poor English.

Quoted from J.S. I thought we were already talking about the talkie pictures?

I've no idea what you where talking about. I was talking about screenplays and how they are an adapted form of writing and have been adapted over time. Which they clearly have.

Quoted from DustinBowcot However I flat out refuse to give people English lessons or even read scripts that are so wrong it would take an hour to correct the errors in grammar on the first page. This is a screenwriting forum and people posting here could at least have the decency to have a good grasp of the English language before attempting to write

I think like a lot of people I've checked a script out and seen it's so bad I've not bothered - but more so for people who don't appear on the boards.

I'm happy to give general feedback on the first 1-10, but it's not often I'll go thorugh the full thing unless its someone I'm familiar with.

It'd be useful though, to have another guy on the boards who'll committ to reading a script back-to-back, as (me included) not everyone does that.

Quoted from Forgive I think like a lot of people I've checked a script out and seen it's so bad I've not bothered - but more so for people who don't appear on the boards. I'm happy to give general feedback on the first 1-10, but it's not often I'll go thorugh the full thing unless its someone I'm familiar with. It'd be useful though, to have another guy on the boards who'll committ to reading a script back-to-back, as (me included) not everyone does that.

It's certainly a commitment but one I feel I owe to the writer once I've stepped into the story. I couldn't just give a 1-10 review... to my mind that would be an insult to the writer. That's just my opinion though and I think no less of you because of what you choose to do.

And this is a perfect example of how everyone is different and everyone brings something different to the table.

I'm the guy that used to give multiple post feedback on many scripts, just for the Hell of it.  Sometimes, I wouldn't even get a thank you. Other times, the writer would be furious for all the mistakes I brought to light.

Now, I'll open a script and if it's horrible, I'll either close it or I'll try to help by explaining some basic concepts that are lacking in the first page.  Same whether it's a short or feature.  In reality, I rarely read an entire script, unless it's from a friend who I want to help as much as possible.

Help comes in many forms and sometimes, if you can beat just 1 thing into someone's head, the help is invaluable.

So, bottom line is let each person be their own person.  Any feedback is good feedback.  Dustin has already jumped in and provided feedback on a number of scripts, which is alot more than most of the SS legion.

Quoted from Grandma Bear Who reads a feature and comments on every typo or grammar? Most people focus on the story ans characters unless the writer is a good friend and the script is intended for a competition.

I made no mention of typo's... although I will even point those out as it helpful to the author to know where they are.

Bad grammar takes me out of a story. You may be different and can see past it. I cannot. When I review a script I will point out everything I think is wrong about it. It takes hours... for me at least three hours per script.

I'd love it if a person gave me the same treatment. There are guys that make a living from reading scripts... even pro scripts. I think most pro's employ a reader they can trust to give their scripts the once over.

I will honestly try and read any script that interests me... but too many grammatical errors will just make me click on something else. No point reviewing 1-10 and possibly hurting the person's feelings.

I notice that I'm not the only person that feels this way... we only need to look at the replies. The decent scripts get more replies, people seem more willing to help. The bad scripts just get things said to them like... bad spelling, sort out your formatting. Some even outright insulting. The way I review a script is different... I go all in, and I simply don't have the time to do that on the bad ones.

My original statement was in regards to the OP. I seriously didn't expect anybody to get affronted by my choice of avoiding conflict. How's that for irony?

There have only been 2 times that I can remember where I wasn't able to get through the entire script.  Both of those times I have sent the author my notes (up to my stopping point) and an explanation as to  where I stopped reading  as well as why I stopped.  I do my notes on the actual pdf itself so it is easy for me to point out any mistakes I see or issues I have or applauding elements I like  by simply highlighting the issue and right-clicking in a note.  But for me, I read scripts (even poorly-written scripts) not just so I can help the writer (or at least offer the writer my honest thoughts/feedback), but also as a learning experience for myself.  I enjoy picking up on different writing styles.  How people use certain words/adjectives differently.  Different formatting  styles.  I even pick up on some of my own mistakes while reading other's works.  Mistakes that I wouldn't have recognized or appreciated otherwise. Mistake that were never apparent to me in my own writing, or just didn't think were that big of a deal until I had to read through it on someone else's page.  A lot can be learnt from reading a great script, but I also think a lot can be learnt from reading a  poorly-crafted script as well. JMHO

Quoted from DustinBowcot Perhaps you'd be kind enough to point to one of your reviews where you have gone through a bad script and pointed out every error in grammar. When I go through a script I commit myself to reading it entirely and make notes throughout. Even a good script can take several hours out of my day. Since joining this site I have actually resolved to read scripts for a certain duration of my day. i don't want to do it, I'd much rather be writing my own... but I believe in putting back what i take, even giving more. However I flat out refuse to give people English lessons or even read scripts that are so wrong it would take an hour to correct the errors in grammar on the first page. This is a screenwriting forum and people posting here could at least have the decency to have a good grasp of the English language before attempting to write in it... and I don't mean foreign speakers either. Too many seem to think screenwriting is an easy way to make money. It's not easy... it's bloody hard... and I'm only interested in the guys that I consider at least have a chance of getting somewhere. I don't see why you have an issue with what I choose to review... Ah yes... as you stated, it is poisonous, it breeds and... is superior. LOL Well let's see yours then.

If you read my comments you'll see that my issue is not with what you choose to review but your general attitude toward people you do not consider to be writers. You should be selective with what you want to read. It's your time you are giving out to people, so that makes sense.

All you have to do is review those scripts. No one is going to ask you why you haven't reviewed the ones you don't think are good enough for you. Just leave it alone.

You don't have to come on here and tell us you will only be reviewing scripts you feel are worthy to be reviewed. There is a difference between being blunt and being arrogant.

Felipe, let it go, bro.  Seriously...just let it go.

Personally, I like arrogance.  And I especially like it here at SS.  We need a little excitement.  

Any feedback is good feedback. Especially when it's free. We all have a brain(even though mine is quite small) and can decide from the feedback how to make our scripts better.

If we get mad everytime we read harsh or bad feedback, people will stop giving us feedback or will tone it down so much that it doesn't help us as writers.

So if you are like me(sensitive)...go cry in your closet...then get to work! Fix your script! Write on!

Quoted from Dreamscale Felipe, let it go, bro.  Seriously...just let it go. Personally, I like arrogance.  And I especially like it here at SS.  We need a little excitement.

If you need a little excitement, then why are you telling me to let it go? =D

I'm more excited to read a script from someone who thinks it's easier to learn good storytelling than it is to learn english.

Especially considering a little over a decade ago, I barely spoke a word of it.

Quoted from Felipe If you read my comments you'll see that my issue is not with what you choose to review but your general attitude toward people you do not consider to be writers. You should be selective with what you want to read. It's your time you are giving out to people, so that makes sense. All you have to do is review those scripts. No one is going to ask you why you haven't reviewed the ones you don't think are good enough for you. Just leave it alone. You don't have to come on here and tell us you will only be reviewing scripts you feel are worthy to be reviewed. There is a difference between being blunt and being arrogant.

So I take it that you can't provide a review of the like you are trying to force me to do.

In regards to what i have to come on here and tell you... this is a discussion thread and I shared my opinion on the OP's comments. Just like a lot of other people have. I haven't jumped on anybody else's opinion as you have with mine.

Quoted from bjamin A lot can be learnt from reading a great script, but I also think a lot can be learnt from reading a  poorly-crafted script as well.

Choice of words is very important... the actual choice is between a very bad script or a poorly crafted one. Great scripts are rare.

Quoted from Felipe I'm more excited to read a script from someone who thinks it's easier to learn good storytelling than it is to learn english.

I never said that. Not once. I said that it is debatable.

Quoted from DustinBowcot So I take it that you can't provide a review of the like you are trying to force me to do.

Point me in the direction of the post in which I tried to "force" you to review a "bad" script.

Good luck.