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Posted: July 4th, 2009, 12:41pm Report to Moderator
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Why is it that there is no Fantasy section in the Unproduced Screenplay Discussion? I am sure many writers here have wrote Fantasy screenplays, which is why I am curious about it. And where do the fantasy scripts go if there is no Fantasy section? I think it would be nice just to have a Fantasy section, in case anyone ever wrote fantasy genre screenplay.
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Posted: July 4th, 2009, 1:22pm Report to Moderator
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This is a discussion that has been held before, though probably before you were active on the boards:

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1228881658/

Typically, a Fantasy script would fall under "Adventure" -- there are unlikely to be enough pure Fantasy submissions to justify their own board.


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What category will my script fall into since I had to put other? My script is mostly a fantasy and since there is no Fantasy section, I labeled it Fantasy/Drama. Does this mean it will be in the drama section? I don't see how Adventure and Fantasy are similar at all. It would be so much easier to just have a Fantasy section, but it isn't that much of a deal.
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Hi Guys,

Thanks usaking for bring this up, again.  Based on the previous discussion thread ( http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1228881658/ ) I am inclined to agree that anime is a medium rather than a genre.  For those folks who have written a script with anime in mind, can include it as a 'sub-genre'.  

That leaves is to the fantasy question.  My initial thought, of those many years ago, was to expand the Sci Fi genre to either Sci Fi & Fantasy or Speculative genres.  

Thoughts?  

Don


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Why not expand Adventure to Adventure & Fantasy? It'd seem more fitting to me.

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I think Adventure and Fantasy are quite similar, like Peter Pan, that's fantasy, but it's also a fun adventure for the protagonists. I don't think Fantasy needs to be seperated in my opinion, I think Adventure covers it all like bert said.


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Quoted from Don
Hi Guys,

Thanks usaking for bring this up, again.  Based on the previous discussion thread ( http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1228881658/ ) I am inclined to agree that anime is a medium rather than a genre.  For those folks who have written a script with anime in mind, can include it as a 'sub-genre'.  

That leaves is to the fantasy question.  My initial thought, of those many years ago, was to expand the Sci Fi genre to either Sci Fi & Fantasy or Speculative genres.  

Thoughts?  

Don


In book stores, Sci Fi and Fantasy are often grouped together or closely. It makes sense from this typical perspective. From there you also get cross genres like supernatural fantasy.

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Fantasy does not always cover adventure. It could be a Drama or a Comedy taking place in a Fantasy land for all we know.

The thing is, both Sci-fi and Fantasy are "genres" that REQUIRE another genre, such as Adventure, so they can work. Adventure, on the other hand, is a genre in and of itself that can also take place in a realistic setting, without Fantasy or Sci-Fi.

If anything, Sci-Fi/Fantasy should be a single board, as they usually require to fall back on another genre to work. Star Wars could fall under Adventure and Action, and it's supposed to be a Sci-Fi. Same with Star Trek.

Donnie Darko is a Drama/Thriller in a Sci-Fi setting.

Alien is  a Horror in a Sci-Fi setting. Same with The Thing.

Sci-fi/Fantasy are settings more than they are an actual genre.

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Fantasy does not always cover adventure. It could be a Drama or a Comedy taking place in a Fantasy land for all we know.

The thing is, both Sci-fi and Fantasy are "genres" that REQUIRE another genre, such as Adventure, so they can work. Adventure, on the other hand, is a genre in and of itself that can also take place in a realistic setting, without Fantasy or Sci-Fi.

If anything, Sci-Fi/Fantasy should be a single board, as they usually require to fall back on another genre to work. Star Wars could fall under Adventure and Action, and it's supposed to be a Sci-Fi. Same with Star Trek.

Donnie Darko is a Drama/Thriller in a Sci-Fi setting.

Alien is  a Horror in a Sci-Fi setting. Same with The Thing.

Sci-fi/Fantasy are settings more than they are an actual genre.

--Julio


Yeah I see where your coming from, but doesn't that mean it isnt strong enough to be on its own? that it needs a another genre.

so if he writes a fantasy, but its very dramatic, wouldn't that fall under Drama? Like a comedy that is full of fantasy would be set under comedy, I think the strongest Genre should be the main catagorization.


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so if he writes a fantasy, but its very dramatic, wouldn't that fall under Drama? Like a comedy that is full of fantasy would be set under comedy,


Why not?  It worked for me.


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Yeah I see where your coming from, but doesn't that mean it isnt strong enough to be on its own? that it needs a another genre.

so if he writes a fantasy, but its very dramatic, wouldn't that fall under Drama? Like a comedy that is full of fantasy would be set under comedy, I think the strongest Genre should be the main catagorization.


I think you're correct if you're talking comedy. That's pretty strong in itself no matter the setting. The question is then: What is ruling in the script? Obviously, we can have a serious script with some comedy, but it doesn't make it a comedy.

But comedy is easy to define because we're using "mood" as the key descriptor. It's more difficult when we get into defining cross genres like when the setting might be sci-fi, but the story is heavily weighted in romance.

When determining where you want to place your script, I think you need to determine how it's weighted in terms of setting, themes, mood and focus of action. Is it internal action? Psychological thriller? External action? Transformers? Both? Matrix?

We can easily get into a big discussion about this. Understanding where we want to be when we set out to write is helpful. I mean, if we can identify ahead of time, what is predominant in our script, then we are further ahead in knowing "the package" we are selling.

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