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Avoiding the Usual (currently 2784 views) |
Tyler |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 11:43am |
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Hello, I'm interested in writing something along the lines of "Criminal Minds" and "CSI" but I want to make sure I avoid being too similar to these programmes, set in America. I want a team of detectives, more preferably a unit in the FBI so that I can go nationwide, who each have a speciality or certain role to do. Any advice? - Tyler. |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 11:44am |
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AdministratorWhat good are choices if they're all bad?
LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
Sort of like The X-Files, but without the Sci-Fi? |
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Tyler |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 11:59am |
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LocationUK Posts30 Posts Per Day 0.01 |
Sort of like The X-Files, but without the Sci-Fi? |
Basically, yeah. |
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leitskev |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 12:46pm |
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If you research on line, you'll find there are numerous investigative agencies within the US government. We all know FBI and CIA, and recently we've seen JAG and other military related investigative branches. There's also Secret Service, which is far older than the FBI, as well as Customs. ATF is in the news a lot lately, with operation Fast and Furious.
There are more obscure agencies too, ones that don't get attention, but most of these federal departments have investigative and enforcement branches. You can always make one up, and make it sound real because it's related to something real. For example, the OSI in WW II became the CIA. Maybe not all of it did. Maybe there were smaller branches that remained separate.
BTW, if you think these agencies are ranked, it's not usually that way. FBI might seem more elite, but they have no more authority than the others. If there's a dispute, I think ultimately the DOJ has to decide jurisdiction, and that's case by case and often highly political.
These things are all available inline, Tyler. Depends what you're looking for. I think Secret Service is cool. I know I guy in it. People think their job is primarily security for the President and other biggies, but it's actually a branch of the Treasury, and the founding purpose was investigative. They look for things like counterfeit money operations, but pretty much anything that could undermine national security. |
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Scar Tissue Films |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 12:47pm |
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1. If it ain't broke don't fix it...keep all the conflict/drama/soap opera character chemistry that makes those shows popular.
2. To give it it's own voice pick a new topic or go further on an existing topic...more realistic, deeper, arder, faster...whatever.
You can invent your own "secret" Department that is concerned with a certain issue or use one of the many existing ones.
You can do the sort of Liar approach...pick a special skill that the team uses to solve cases.
Both.
Or just do the Wire and make it more real.
You might want to think about what you're trying to say about the world/America....to provide for an overall arc for the story. |
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ajr |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 12:50pm |
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Old Timer
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Just write about 3 chicks and 4 dudes and bill it as The A Team meets Charlie's Angels. Trust me, no one will care about the agency and the plot once bikinis are worn and cars are blown up...
Sorry, I'm a little bitter today...
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Scar Tissue Films |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 12:54pm |
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Posts3382 Posts Per Day 0.63 |
I actually like the sound of that one tbh honest ajr.... |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 12:57pm |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
Regardless, I bet you're right, Anthony. Don't forget the fun factor, though. You know why the original Charlie's Angels was popular but the remake wasn't? Well, I don't, but I'm guessing it was more fun.
And, let's not forget about everyone's forget fictional government agency: CTU, otherwise known as Jack Bauer and Company.
Funny thing is, what you want sounds exactly like The X-Files except their specialties wouldn't be medicine and psychology/paranormal. Good luck with it either way, though. |
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leitskev |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 1:14pm |
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I know EXACTLY why the original Charlies Angels worked. I had the posters on my wall as a kid. Trust me, that was enough. |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 1:17pm |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
Like I said, more fun... =) |
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ajr |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 1:45pm |
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Old Timer
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Good - I'm copyrighting this thread now...
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Heretic |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 2:04pm |
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January Project Group
LocationVancouver, British Columbia, Canada Posts2023 Posts Per Day 0.28 |
Just write about 3 chicks and 4 dudes and bill it as The A Team meets Charlie's Angels. Trust me, no one will care about the agency and the plot once bikinis are worn and cars are blown up...
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Oooh, yeah...or maybe they're like, competing male and female crimefighting teams, both good but wanting to be the one to beat the bad guys, and it's like, they meet up at different crimes and get in each other's way during action sequences, and although they pretend to hate each other, the romantic tension between them is evident in the witty banter that they share during firefights and car chases, and over the first season a relationship develops between the "nerdy" female and the "ruggedly masculine" male of the respective teams, and the conflicts and jealousies surrounding that begin to cause problems that frequently force the two groups into teaming up... |
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Ryan1 |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 2:14pm |
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Old Timer
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Yeah, it was a dark day for all of us when the new Charlie's Angels was canceled. But one agency you could write about would be the NSA. National Security Agency. One of the more powerful, yet mysterious organizations in the US. |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 2:19pm |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
Haven't they done the NSA on TV yet, or is it just Splinter Cell that's done it? |
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leitskev |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 2:32pm |
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NSA tends to be data collection, not so much guys in the field. So not as good for drama. Think of analysts looking at intercepted phone calls and satellite data. The CIA is more field oriented. |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 2:49pm |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
CTU is basically the culmination of the CIA and NSA which sucks because if you do something like that again, everyone will say you're ripping off 24. |
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Ryan1 |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 4:17pm |
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Old Timer
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True, NSA mainly deals with intel analysis and code breaking. But maybe invent some special clandestine field ops unit that deals directly with detected threats.
Or just invent your own agency. |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 3rd, 2011, 4:20pm |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
Just remember, you can't do the rogue government agency thing because people might try and claim you're ripping off "Person of Interest"... possibly.
Making up your own is definitely the best, though. =) |
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Lexalicous |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 8:42am |
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How bout a show about the IRS? |
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leitskev |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 8:52am |
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$(%*$(#(#U%*&&@ IRS!!
Only if you make them the bad guys! |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 9:03am |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
But, that wouldn't be an interesting premise. An interesting premise would be to make them the GOOD guys... =) |
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Pale Yellow |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 9:09am |
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January Project Group
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I liked the action in 24. I never watched in on tv but enjoyed watching all the seasons on netflix. I'm tired of the CSIs sort of. |
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Electric Dreamer |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 9:39am |
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Old Timer Taking a long vacation from the holidays.
LocationLos Angeles Posts2740 Posts Per Day 0.55 |
Just write about 3 chicks and 4 dudes and bill it as The A Team meets Charlie's Angels. Trust me, no one will care about the agency and the plot once bikinis are worn and cars are blown up...
Sorry, I'm a little bitter today...
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I say Charlie's Angels MEETS The A-Team! The A-Team tracks a drug cartel using exchange students as unwilling mules to Miami. The baddies hold the parents hostage while the kids are sent out. But where do the kids go once they land in the Sunshine State? Meanwhile, the Angels go undercover at a special day care run by lesbians. They stumble into an "extraction" on a kid by the day care's greasy tranny doctor. The girls get Mr. T to pose as the day care janitor to win the mule kids' trust. Then, hilarity ensues. E.D. |
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leitskev |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 10:59am |
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Can we use some kind of technology to bring back the angels from the 70s? As they looked then? Man, they don't make angels like that anymore. There wasn't a boy in the country who didn't have a Farra Fawcett poster back then. Cheryl Ladd was a pretty damn good replacement, too! |
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ajr |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 11:01am |
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Cheryl Ladd is 60 and she still looks awesome, btw... |
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Tyler |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 3:36pm |
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CTU is basically the culmination of the CIA and NSA which sucks because if you do something like that again, everyone will say you're ripping off 24. |
Exactly what I thought. Then how do I avoid this? |
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Mr. Blonde |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 3:40pm |
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LocationNowhere special. Posts3064 Posts Per Day 0.57 |
To quote 'Zodiac', "Get creative." |
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Zanej |
Posted: November 4th, 2011, 6:37pm |
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There are a lot of agencies that havemt been tapped I.e. ATF, DEA, CID, AFOSI, And others... any couls make a good series |
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Tyler |
Posted: November 5th, 2011, 9:13am |
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Yeah. I might do something on the DEA. |
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