Kevin, my friend, I'm sure this could go on forever back and forth.  I truly despised Tucker and Dale.  I gave it every effort to get throgh it and finally gave up, long before it was over, but I will say again, what I said earlier:

This flaw and comflict that you brought up in their characters is not the reason why peeps liked the movie.  Period.  I can't speak for the writers, but I highly doubt they were concerned with infusing these things into their scrt, or the characters.

It's ont a movie to be taken remotely seriously.  It's an all out gross out parady of horror films.  It's a comedy.

Felipe, I'm not sure what your fake quote is even supposed to mean, or if it's supposed to be funny or some sort of insult, so I'll just ignore it.

Not an insult. I don't think we're ever going to fully agree because we are essentially saying the same things but calling it something else... So instead of responding, I just decided to form a ridiculous sentence from your words.

Quoted from Felipe Not an insult. I don't think we're ever going to fully agree because we are essentially saying the same things but calling it something else... So instead of responding, I just decided to form a ridiculous sentence from your words.

I call it pulling a "Stevie", as he's the one who first started dong these "quotes".

No problem, man.  I agree we probably are saying the same thing but using different words to state it.

You know, it's actually possible that even Kevin and I are somewhat saying the same thing,even though he'll probably vehemontly disgaree with that. I guess it simply comes down to going about the same task in a different way...and there's nothing wrong with that.

You still don't get it, Jeff. I guess I'll let it go after this.

This has nothing to do with taking Tucker and Dale seriously. That's why I used that film as an example. What I am saying is that these little conflicts are what make even completely non-serious films like Tucker entertaining. It's all part of the character interplay.

I'm not sure why you don't get this, but this is film 101. Even I get it, so it must be pretty basic stuff. You're in one corner, and pretty much the entire film world is in the other. I guess as long as they have jaeger in your corner, it's still a good time. Maybe I'll visit for a shot.

Kevin, how can I let it go with your last post, saying "I just don't get it, and it's film 101"?  I can't.

I'll try again.

These arcs and this conflict you continually refer to is something that is or should be inherent in pretty much any remotely interesting or entertaining "anything", including real life.  It's beyond film or story 101, as it pretty much ahs to happen or your story will be flatline.

What I am opposed to is shoehorning in such things because you (or others) feel it has to be there or is lacking based on what you're rading or watching.

And let me go another step further - by shoehorning, I'm simply refering to adding unnecessary arcs or conflicts...unrealistic or unbelievable arcs and conflicts.

Your example of Tucker and Dale is basically comic sketch characteristics that play off each other and add humor (to those who find this type of thing humorous).  That's it...nothing more, nothing less.

I always overlook such obvious things because they are ont important - to me.

You go out of your way to look for them and point them out, even.  When you talk of 101 such stuff, don't you realize that it doesn't even need to be mentioned?

And here is how you both agree.

You both know these things are there, and Kevin even said he only focuses on these things when, upon receiving feedback, he finds people are having problems with the script. He analyzes those things to fix the script that was previously "flatlining."

You both agree for the most part. You just don't see it.