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I'm not going to get into any internet argument. I will just state my view on the Script Shadow situation as succinctly as possible and leave it at that.
I refused to support Carson when he was reviewing in-development scripts. When he stopped, I eased up on him. I'm not the type to hold a grudge. People change and I believe in letting them.
While I've never been a supporter of making in-development scripts available to the general public, nothing changes the fact that these scripts can only come from people inside the industry. And I know for a fact there are people in Hollywood who pay attention to the Script Shadow blog.
It's terribly presumptuous for anyone to assume I have unrealistic expectations. I'm a three time Nicholl quarterfinalist. I've received an honorable mention at Trackingb. I've had a script optioned in Hollywood. I've written on assignment. I've queried. I've had my scripts requested by many of the management and production companies that are available to unknown writers. I've also worked my ass off to try and produce my own films. I've done my due diligence.
I don't have blind faith in Carson's opinion or anyone else's. I'm just a humble writer trying to do everything I can to get a project off the ground. Being selected for an Amateur Friday review at Script Shadow is a little publicity for one of my scripts. Maybe it will lead to something. Maybe it won't. It's just another avenue. It costs me nothing and it may get some people interested in my script who didn't even know about it before.
Warning Shot was already being considered by a production company before I ever submitted it to Script Shadow. But I've been doing this long enough to know that you don't just wait around to see what happens. I'm going to do everything I can to promote myself as a writer. You don't stand out by being exactly like everyone else.
There is one other consideration — and that's the question of talent. Maybe I don't have any. Maybe I'm mediocre at best. Maybe conventional doors aren't open to me. Most of the criticism of submitting to Script Shadow is built around the supposition that the writer would succeed regardless. But that's not guaranteed. There are those who say things like, "Great scripts get you in." Maybe they're completely full of shit. Maybe you can be a great writer and still fail to get noticed. When you look at the math, you'll see that's possible. But for anyone who insists great writers are guaranteed success, what about the possibility that I suck as a writer? This is what I want to do and I'm going to do it no matter what anyone thinks about my talent.
This is pretty much all I have to say on the matter. I could go on about the agony of being so close and watching a project fizzle, but I'll simply say that I don't think I'm quite as ignorant or delusional as Script Shadow detractors might think I am. I'm not the sort to get into prolonged debates with people on the internet, so I'm going to leave the matter here. Anyone who thinks less of me because I submitted a script at Script Shadow will just have to go on thinking poorly of me. I can't please everyone and I'm not going to try to.
Hope this puts the issue to rest, at least as far as I'm concerned. Best of luck to all involved.
The problem is I have to stick to what I believe in, but this is where it's tough. Because, perhaps contrary to my posts, I am a nice person. And in all things, there are exceptions to the rule.
So I absolutely can't condone Carson or anyone who might profit in some way from his website, but at the same time, in our brief PM exchange, I like you.
So it's a conflicted dichotomy where I don't really think people should succeed through Scriptshadow, but I want you to succeed (or at least find more success).
I'll avoid any more talk of Carson and just say I hope what you want to happen with your career happens.
As to Kevin, no hard feelings. We all enjoy a bit of a debate once in a while. What writer doesn't? I won't change my view on Carson (which, like Breanne, did mellow a bit when he announced he would quit reviewing in-production scripts... but seems to have gone back on his word every now and then), but I'll leave others to make up their own mind. And good luck with your projects too.
Carson has a top article today about the Road Warrior. Or Mad Max 2 to the real world, lol. One of my fave movies of all time and the best Aussie film for me. Saw it at the drive in as a 20 year old. Unbelievable.
Carson has a top article today about the Road Warrior. Or Mad Max 2 to the real world, lol. One of my fave movies of all time and the best Aussie film for me. Saw it at the drive in as a 20 year old. Unbelievable.
Don't be modest, Stevie, we all know you played the Humongous.
Go to the Scriptshadow home page. Scroll down to "Archives" on the right hand side. Click on 2013. Click on the "Amateur Offerings Weekend" in between "Screenplay Review - The Giver" and "Amateur Friday - The Devil's Jokebook." You will find Breanne's "Warning Shot" there along with Janet's "Stream of Consciousness."
So I absolutely can't condone Carson or anyone who might profit in some way from his website, but at the same time, in our brief PM exchange, I like you. & So it's a conflicted dichotomy where I don't really think people should succeed through Scriptshadow, but I want you to succeed (or at least find more success).
Why not?
Why not succeed through scriptshadow or any other means by which to get your work noticed?
What you said is some of the stupidest shite I've ever heard.
Who are you to judge whether or not an avenue or resource for a writer to gain recognition deserves your favor?
You make it sound like he’s running some kind of illicit operation bent on profits.
If you don’t like scriptshadow, don’t fuccing visit it.
And another fuccing thing…
I don’t appreciate people hijacking this thread and taking Breanne’s thunder on what should be a very exciting week for her.
She earned that review and all that’s being bantered about is a completely unrelated thread regarding Carson’s site.
Start another thread if that’s the theme this thread is going to continue on.
Why not succeed through scriptshadow or any other means by which to get your work noticed?
What you said is some of the stupidest shite I've ever heard.
Who are you to judge whether or not an avenue or resource for a writer to gain recognition deserves your favor?
You make it sound like he’s running some kind of illicit operation bent on profits.
If you don’t like scriptshadow, don’t fuccing visit it.
And another fuccing thing…
I don’t appreciate people hijacking this thread and taking Breanne’s thunder on what should be a very exciting week for her.
She earned that review and all that’s being bantered about is a completely unrelated thread regarding Carson’s site.
Start another thread if that’s the theme this thread is going to continue on.
And remember, Breanne accomplished something.
That’s what this threads needs to get back to!!!
Shawn…..><
And yet you respond with an evocative post when everything had died down and returned to normal.
As to 'some of the stupidest shite'.... Is it?
Carson's questionable actions are up there for all to see. I don't think I specifically stated his actions were illicit..... but if the shoe fits. He reviews in-production scripts against the express wishes of all involved in a way that drives people to his website so he can peddle his wares. Sounds just a little illicit to me.
Or would you agree with a website that reviewed first draft manuscripts of novels without the consent of the writer?
But anyway, all that had died down. Thank goodness you posted about the Carson debate to remind us not to keep talking about the Carson debate.
You wanted to end your little day long war with your shots across the bow demeaning those who find value in the sourses availible, including spriptshadow.
You wanted to end your little day long war with your shots across the bow demeaning those who find value in the sourses availible, including spriptshadow.
You wanna let it die?
Let it die now!
Shawn.....><
It already had. But I'll leave you with one last link-
If you still want to be associated with Scriptshadow after that, all power to you. I and a lot of other working writers (including those mentioned in the link) would rather not.
Scriptshadow is bad for working writers but good for newbs who are looking for a leg up.
That's what I've gotten from this thread. Getting the chance for a deal is better than not getting one and having to twiddle your thumbs for another year or two.
Maybe the pro-writers are pissed because he critiques their scripts. There may be a bit of that also.
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