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Leegion
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Hey folks,

As of late, I've been rather stumped.  Been staring at "FADE IN" for a while, unable to progress anywhere, incapable of finding my flow.  Maybe I'm running out of ideas?  This was my first thought.

I recently read an article on Scriptshadow, it's on the main page of that website and it functions on "originality", what is original, what's not original.  Exceptional elements and such.  How to make something that is both familiar yet new, if that makes sense.  It's linked below:

http://scriptshadow.net/screenwriting-article-the-exceptional-element/

I was down and out, really struggling to come up with anything and it affected my attitude quite a bit, has done for the last few days.  Been saying a lot of things I'd not normally say.

Turns out, I wasn't out of ideas, I was just doing things too similar to other things, if that makes sense.  Age of Shadows is a cut-and-dry fantasy story, you've SEEN it all before, nothing new.  Last Sundown, I got to 80 pages, and then quit on it with 7 left because it felt too similar to other Westerns.

Now though, I have a new outlook on storytelling.  Do things familiar yet add a new spice to the mix.  

Just thought I'd give the link to anyone feeling the same way as myself.  I hate getting into ruts like these, I like writing and when I can't write, I get annoyed and when I get annoyed, i get involved in political discussions and such where I make myself look like an idiot, lol.

Anyway, hopefully the link provides assistance to writers that may be struggling.  It's certainly opened my eyes to a whole Galaxy of Ideas.
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Posted: June 20th, 2014, 3:16am Report to Moderator
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You only just figured that out?

Y'know, I was going to say something to you not too long ago but I deleted it because I thought it would come across as insulting.

Whenever I read something of yours I'm always put in mind of James Herbert. I've read most of his books, by the way, I only left out the more modern ones after he made a brief comeback around 10 years ago... He's the author of The Rats, Sepulchre, The Dark, etc, etc...

The thing is, all of his books are the same. They follow the same simple formula. Might as well be reading the same book. However, what kept me going back to Jimmy, was it was easy to read. There's nothing wrong with that... there's a market for it. If I was bored enough I'd even read his newer stuff, because I know what I'm getting and he has a writer's voice.

You've got a voice too.

Be nice to see you tackle something a little more out there. Something not so safe. Something nobody else would ever think of or dream attempting. Put your head above the crowd. You have to push your talent to its limits.
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Oh, the next will be "out there", lol.  It's a buddy-cop movie.  Not the standard type though.

I won't go into detail, but it's zany and off-the-walls.  Never-been-done-before territory.

Thanks to scriptshadow for instilling confidence in me again.  Deadite put me onto it when he mentioned the article in a message, so thanks to him too.
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Oh, the next will be "out there", lol.  It's a buddy-cop movie.  Not the standard type though.

I won't go into detail, but it's zany and off-the-walls.  Never-been-done-before territory.


Watch out for anything remotely resembling the BO Bomb, R.I.P.D. from last year.

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Watch out for anything remotely resembling the BO Bomb, R.I.P.D. from last year.



I'll do my best to avoid it.  
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Hey Lee, you'll be alright, man.  I don't always agree with Carson but I thought he was right in that article - even though I already knew what he was talking about - but he just seemed to slam it over my head a little extra harder with that post.  Now I have a really badass idea, I already have a badass one page opener, and I can't wait to type "FADE OUT."  It has Oscars written all over it.  It'll be the script I send out to the comps this go around.  Just hang in there, dude.  Send me The Last Sundown and I'll give it a read.  I'll help you out as much as I can.  I have no problem with that.  I love giving all the regular members a read.  I always gain something from it.
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Hey Lee, you'll be alright, man.  I don't always agree with Carson but I thought he was right in that article - even though I already knew what he was talking about - but he just seemed to slam it over my head a little extra harder with that post.  Now I have a really badass idea, I already have a badass one page opener, and I can't wait to type "FADE OUT."  It has Oscars written all over it.  It'll be the script I send out to the comps this go around.  Just hang in there, dude.  Send me The Last Sundown and I'll give it a read.  I'll help you out as much as I can.  I have no problem with that.  I love giving all the regular members a read.  I always gain something from it.


Thanks, Steve.

Last Sundown has been changed, or upscaled to a new concept.  I like the whole "cowboy" thing, but I am changing it to a Sci-Fi Western, meaning cowboys, outlaws and horses will gallop among the stars attempting to steal, shoot and loot in space while retaining the classic Western vibe, weaponry, equipment and lingo.

The first Sci-Fi Western I believe.  Not in that "Cowboys and Aliens" or "John Carter" way, more like Red Dead Redemption meets Mass Effect.  I'll likely take you up on the offer once I have the first Act down.
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I'm gonna give away a whole bunch of plans over the next few days, characters, stories, loglines, titles.  Maybe someone here can find better use of them, otherwise, they're just gonna sit here and gather computer dust.  
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AGGGGGGGGHHHH, Lee, you drive me crazy, dude.

You're always giving up so easily!!!!  Fight through that shit, man.  Persevere.
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AGGGGGGGGHHHH, Lee, you drive me crazy, dude.

You're always giving up so easily!!!!  Fight through that shit, man.  Persevere.


Older scripts, mate.  The ones I'm never gonna write.  I'm looking into new ideas, so I don't need the old ones anymore.  

As I said, the scriptshadow article instilled some inspiration and I want to capitalize on these new ideas.  The older concepts are treatments for 3 scripts (Fracture, Last Sundown and Shards) that I will never write, either that, or they've evolved beyond what they were in the beginning, so it'd be a shame to see them go to waste.  
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Oh.  Haha.  Ok.  You had me there for a second.

I don't want to see you - or anyone on here - give up.
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Hey lee

You can always use those old ideas. Add them to something your working on or Combine two or more old ideas into one new feature.

I'm envious on those guys who can get a idea and churn out a script. I'm a slow guy. lol.

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^^^ I agree completely with what Gabe says... never throw anything away, as you never know when you could use it. What if you see a call for scripts, which perfectly matches one of these ideas?

I always save my ideas to a word document, even if they're things I have no immediate interest of writing. In fact, I sent this document to one of my friends (an established cinematographer who's made the move into producing) for him to pick out an idea for me to write with the intention of him producing. The idea he picked out was one that I would have never picked alone, as I thought it needed work... it did, but two months later, he's got some investors interested and it's finally looking like we're going to secure some development funding.

Moral of the story; keep everything, as you never know when it may come in use


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Whenever I write I TRY to find where my ideas are getting cliche. It happens. But then when you figure out what's expected, what's been done before, you flip it on its head and do the opposite. Very few ideas are truly new. But how you present, execute and convey them can be. For example, Firefly/Serenity is a sci-first western. Some people even say Star Wars is to an extent. Star Trek was pitched as Go West in spaceships. All are different though and all are loved.


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Actually that "call for scripts" thing has come around twice in the last month.  

I can come up with ideas quickly anyway.  Nevermore is a prime example of this.  I thought of it 2 days ago and I'm already 37 pages through.  It's the Buddy-Cop movie I was talking about, crazy, off-the-walls and insane.

Dreamscale mentioned RIPD.  Well, think "The Other Guys" meets "21 Jump Street" only with aliens and homophobic elves in a town surrounded by volcanoes...

It's like nothing you've read/seen before, yet it is.  You know the buddy-cop genre, but it goes much further.  Hopefully others get a laugh out of this, and if anyone remembers my comedy "Bleak Falls" then you'll find similar humor here.
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