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Excitement! ^,^
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Sounds really good this. Well done with the planning Michael, looks like it must have been alot of work.

So do we start asking for buddies yet? Alffy?


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Great planning and guidelines Cornetto.  You put a lot of thought into this layout...the SS CRaven was probably provided a good learning curve

Fantastic Job!

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I love words and the fact that when the page is blank...there's nothing there until words are formulated in my brain. Those thoughts...rushing through my viens and out my finger tips, find "life" on the page.  

When people and places come to life...that to me is exciting.


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I'm all for having a polar opposite character to mine. Itmightbeorange? What do you think?

Oh, and mcornetto... Two L's in Willson. I'm a bit weird about it.


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I'm all for having a polar opposite character to mine. Itmightbeorange? What do you think?

Oh, and mcornetto... Two L's in Willson. I'm a bit weird about it.


George Willson with two l's and James Fleming with one m. LOl

Michael, you've done a good job with the planning. Especially the tribes. I'm wondering if each tribe will have something more in common besides where they are coming from.

Sandra




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Sorry about the two L's George - never even noticed it until you pointed it out.  Fixed  (but you won't see it on the tracksheet until I post a new one)

Definitely - now is the time to pick buddies. GM?
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I'm okay with anyone as my buddy, I know all of you are very competent.
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Quoted from George Willson
I'm all for having a polar opposite character to mine. Itmightbeorange? What do you think?

Oh, and mcornetto... Two L's in Willson. I'm a bit weird about it.


Sure, let's do it!
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Definitely - now is the time to pick buddies. GM?


Are you asking me out Mr Cornetto?

Yup, sounds good to me, I am happy enough to be anybodies buddy, as long as they know what they are doing co's still need to get my head around this. Looks like a lot of effort has gone into this Michael so I will do my best not to mess it up!
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We're close to having fun now. I'm down for anyone.


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Excellent!  Looks like this is going to be very cool.  Can't wait to get started.

Hey fellow Arizonian, MBCGirl...will you be my bestest buddy?  I promise not to be too critical of anything you write.
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Quoted from Murphy


Are you asking me out Mr Cornetto?

Yup, sounds good to me, I am happy enough to be anybodies buddy, as long as they know what they are doing ... I will do my best not to mess it up!


Don't worry GM, I'll be gentle.

You'll get the first installment sometime Saturday, or maybe Sunday morning.


Cheers
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Hey ReaperCreeper,

Would you like to be my writing buddy?


Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages.
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Sure thing Ripley.
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Hey fellow Arizonian, MBCGirl...will you be my bestest buddy?  I promise not to be too critical of anything you write.


You just "calls it likes you sees it" Dreamscale No worries...

I'm up for the challenge...but don't always expect to be right! *wink  At least we will be in the same time zone...that should make collaboration easier.  You're in Chandler with the cows and I'm in Scottsdale with the "snotty people." lol

Ready for the journey!


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I love words and the fact that when the page is blank...there's nothing there until words are formulated in my brain. Those thoughts...rushing through my viens and out my finger tips, find "life" on the page.  

When people and places come to life...that to me is exciting.


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Wow that's a lot of rules lol. Hope to keep up to date with this, so fingers crossed. Hope it goes as well as the last game, I'm sure it will though.


Check out my scripts...if you want to, no pressure.

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I was completely blitzed by too much Guinness yesterday and missed this post.

I noticed Michael's tip that we should buddy with people within the same timezone.

Who else is in the U.K or Ireland?  Or round about my neck of the woods.


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Yohn Yohnson is your best bet.  I'm not sure where he's from, but Blakkwolfe and Wesley are the only other people not paired up yet, and they're in the same time zone.


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Michael, I'm extremely happy with your set up. I really felt that it was cinematic and I felt drawn in immediately.

Hopefully we can all bring this to the level it could be as time goes on.

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Hey thanks Sandra.   I think we'll all do really well this time.  I, for one, am certainly interested in reading what everyone comes up with.

The tracksheet has been updated, emails sent out, and it's George's turn next - he's in Detroit.
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The opening is fantastic! I'm so excited about this game. I've been working on a zombie type story for a while and this would be an excellent break from it to gather my thoughts. Good Job you two!
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This is sounding great already.  

Great stuff Sandra & Michael.


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This is great. Even though I'm not part of this, I'm sure I will love reading it!

Who's up next?

Btw, if anyone needs to run their "scene" by someone before posting and their "buddy" is not around, feel free to send it my way.  


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What a opening!? Lol. Cliffhangers are still in. lol.


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FANTASTIC...and Sandra is right...it is cinematic!

I love the opening...it gives us all something to aspire to

Thanks Cornetto!


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I love words and the fact that when the page is blank...there's nothing there until words are formulated in my brain. Those thoughts...rushing through my viens and out my finger tips, find "life" on the page.  

When people and places come to life...that to me is exciting.


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So you're putting my poor little Cordelia in harm's way already? You cruel bastard!
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I'm dedicating this song to Innocence.

(n)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSFPCQs470&feature=related(n)

So I'll cross my heart
And hope to die
Before I have a chance to lie
To you my dear
Who I wish no harm
But I know in the end this will turn out wrong
See I've been known to fall in love
But sometimes love just is not enough
And my heart will stray
Before too long
So please forgive me when I sing this song
I sing this song

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Great start Michael and Sandra. This is looking really good so far.


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Nice start Michael, weird dream Sandra lol.

Should I try and be in a tribe with other people from the UK?


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Should I try and be in a tribe with other people from the UK?


The tribe you are in will be picked by someone with an introduction scene. But you should pick a buddy from your timezone so that they can give what you write a quick sanity check before you post it and you'll do the same for them.

Cheers.

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So, who'll get the first turn? I can't wait!! =D

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Julio,

If you look at the first post in this thread it has a tracksheet and above the tracksheet are who goes for the next three turns.

George
Wesley (and Wesley has a dream)
Yohn

Keep an eye on the first post because it changes and that is how you track the game.
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George has never been to Detroit so he did a lot of research for his little scene. I do hope it's enjoyed, and I also hope I left it in a precarious enough position for the next person who has to tackle them in Detroit... that water's cold up there.


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Great stuff George, I'm starting to get ideas now.


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George has never been to Detroit so he did a lot of research for his little scene. I do hope it's enjoyed, and I also hope I left it in a precarious enough position for the next person who has to tackle them in Detroit... that water's cold up there.


That's what I was thinking. Hypothermia would set in really quick.

George, I enjoyed the way you set up this scene with James sitting on the steps of the church. The flashback you built gave us a good indication of James' character. The radio part gives us a "whole" kind of sense of what's going on in the world which is invaluable because although we are going to see snapshots from the different locations, this helps to bring it together from the onset.

Nicely done,

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This is shaping up nicely so far.  Very "Stand"ish and even "I am Legend"ish.

Let's keep it going!
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Well done George.  I loved the reference to The Stand.  And a very good start for both Leona and James.

You forgot to send me your challenge for the next person in your tribe though, so send it on over.

The tracksheet has been updated (though I made a small mistake on it - i'll fix it later).
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I didn't forget, I just...um...yeah, I guess I failed to read that part, so...well, I didn't forget, I just...didn't...ok, I'll figure it out.

And yeah, hypothermia is a definite possibility, I would imagine, but to choose between being really freakin' cold and being mauled by rapid cougars, I think I'd jump in too.

Then again, James is technically a medical doctor (albeit of Psychiatry)  which does require some time doing actual medical doctor stuff before he could be a licensed psychiatrist, so he would likely know what to do for hypothermia.

And on the Stand reference, I just prefer to have characters in the story point out the obvious and even comment on it before someone on the outside can start pointing at it. One of my favorite movie moments was during The Emperor's New Groove when Kusco asked how Kronk and what's-her-name beat them to the palace, and Kronk showed the map from the previous scene and comments that he doesn't know and it really doesn't make any sense.



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Cornetto...I suspect that we will learn where we are starting from and which tribe we are in one we either get the que from you or when we see our character written into a scene, as is the case with the two posts.

Great job George!  

Both of these beginning entries have a nice pace and "excitement building" aspect.

Not only will this be a very cool challenge for all of us, but an even better learning exercise!

Digging it so far.


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I love words and the fact that when the page is blank...there's nothing there until words are formulated in my brain. Those thoughts...rushing through my viens and out my finger tips, find "life" on the page.  

When people and places come to life...that to me is exciting.


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I liked the Stand reference. It's an obvious point to make. I'm curious on how Leona and James meet though. They seem odd as a pair.


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This is great. Even though I'm not part of this, I'm sure I will love reading it!

Who's up next?

Btw, if anyone needs to run their "scene" by someone before posting and their "buddy" is not around, feel free to send it my way.  



I'd be happy to team up with Mr. Wesley; however any help from those up in Tebow-ville would be greatly appreciated...they are calling it that now, aren't they?...At least they will on Jan 9th


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T. Joe,

just send it on over. I'd be happy to read it.

...and yes, I do live in Tebowville on 43rd Tim Lane.


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Ok. Haven't heard from Wesley directly but heard indirectly that he won't be participating. So I'm going to have to cancel his turn.  Dreamscale, do you mind starting the Ottawa tribe?  
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I'd love to actually.  How much time do I have still?  Will you be E-Mailing me some info on what my scene will accomplish, etc.?

I am actually available all week, so I could get started on this as early as...well...now I guess!
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I'd love to actually.  How much time do I have still?  Will you be E-Mailing me some info on what my scene will accomplish, etc.?

I am actually available all week, so I could get started on this as early as...well...now I guess!


You have 72 hours but you have to work out the dream with Sandra.  Sending an email. Cheers.
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You were really cut out for the dreams Sandra. lol. Everything flows nicely with them.


Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages.
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That was a damn creepy dream Sandra, good work!

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Yeah Sandra, great dream scene!  Awesome!  Wish I had more room to really work with it, but as I told you, I think it's so strong on its own, that I'm not too worried about totally delving into it.

My post is coming jup shrotly everyone. Hope you all like it. I'm pretty psyched about it.
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OK, now we're playing with fire!  Hope you all enjoy...
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Good job Dreamscale and thanks for taking the turn without a heads up.  Well done Sandra the dream was creepy.  

The tracksheet is updated and emails are sent.  

Next is another New York installment.  Can't wait to see what happens.  However will they get out of the city?
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Sandra...I LOVE your dream...they will meet in reality...I think it is safe to say.

I loved how she put the blood on her lips and her cheeks...it was creepy good stuff and kuddos to you Our Dream Maker Sandra!

Dreamscale is my buddy on here for collaboration...so I read it before it was posted but I want to say that I really like how he got this corner of the story going. I like the character development.

I love sweet old Albert and his endearing ways and as per usual I can't seem to get out of the kitchen! (Sam making the boys breakfast) lol

Good job...I can hardly wait to see what Orange adds to this wonderful mix...
It's pretty yummy thus far!
~m~


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I love words and the fact that when the page is blank...there's nothing there until words are formulated in my brain. Those thoughts...rushing through my viens and out my finger tips, find "life" on the page.  

When people and places come to life...that to me is exciting.


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If a squirrel leaves his nut comes and attacks you, that's when you know things are messed up. lol. I liked Albert's dialogue as he was talking to his wife.  Can't wait for Yohn's part.


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Excellent job Dreamscale! We have our explosion! Nicely done!

I especially like the fact of using the innocent squirrel in this.
It comes on very gently and then we're hit with the action.

Also, as I mentioned, I thought we needed to have some good footage
of what was going on outside and you supplied it perfectly with the aerial shot.

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Hey guys, I got a question, figured I'd ask before my turn comes--

I know we only have one kill to use, but do non-player characters count as "Kills" as well? Do I waste my Kill if I choose to ax a non-player guy/girl?

I'd just like that cleared.

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Well done everyone so far, a very good start to this indeed. Nice job on the dreams Sandra.
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Hey all, the story is looking great so far!

I've been busy lately with university stuff, day-job stuff, and a bunch of other stuff that have decided to pile on me, as is common this time of year.  Hence my absense from the boards.

I have my piece half written, but it's not going to be done until tomorrow.  Is this a problem?
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If tomorrow is not the fourth day and you are asked to let your buddy read it. You gotta talk to Michael about it.


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I thought it was due yesterday, based on the 48 hour rule...
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Finish your scene Yohn and post it.   Looking forward to reading it.  

Everybody else.  Correct way to handle the problem of your scene being late - but let this sort of thing be the exception and not the rule.

Cheers guys.  
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Thanks mcornetto, and I'm really sorry about any inconvienice guys.
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Hi Sandra & Dreamscale,

Great work.

I don't know how you do it Sandra but your dreams are cool.  I hazard a guess at what my attempt of a dream would look like.

Dreamscale, excellent work on my character, and excellent posts.  I can only hope to carry the baton just as well.

I'm definitely looking up to you guys.

Michael, any ideas how long this game is going to run for?

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I'm guessing the game continues until there is only one survivor and he/she confronts Shiva.
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I think the original estimate for this game is going to be stretched.  We are looking for more quality of story this time, so I'm inclined to be a bit lenient on the time limits and size limits.  I can tell you right now, it might seem like an easy task to write these short little scenes with  story in mind but it's definitely a challenge, harder than the Killer game was.  So I can totally relate to people having a difficult time.  

But you never know how fast these things will go.  Last time we played after a slowish start things speeded up phenomenally.    

The thing to do here is that if you know you aren't going to be able to make your turn because of your schedule then please let us know as soon as possible.  

In Yohn's case we had invested so much time in waiting for Yohn's scene that even if I scheduled another person it would take just as long to get the scene posted.  Not to say that it wasn't appreciated that Yohn came forward about his delay.  He has a tough scene, I can relate.

As far as the holidays go, I will try to accommodate your schedule as best as I can.   If you're not going to be around for a while then let me know and I will try to schedule your turns appropriately.

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My scene is up.

I'm really sorry for the dely everyone.  Hope it satisfies.
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That was good Yohn.  I thought the action was well written and I really like how the characters are shaping up.

Orange is up next, she already has the details. I won't be able to update the tracksheet or send out emails until I get home from work.  
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Really nicely done Yohn! Don't worry about the delay. This truly is a challenge, but I know that we all have good intentions here and hopefully we will be able to work to the best of our ability.

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This is definitely an action flick. We're setting the bar rather high from the get go, it seems, with a quick character scene followed by an action sequence. I'll bet the actual deaths are going to be a trip.


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Yohn and everyone else - PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY...OK?

Question - Why is there a wild boar, a snow leopard, and a white rhino in NYC?  Where in the world did they come from?  This is merely a question I would ask if I was reading this script from scratch or if I was watching it a a theater.

As far as I knew, this disease just hit...people are just now starting to die out.  In my scene, which appears to be a "continuous" scene, just a different locale, 2 days earlier, TV, cell phone, and E-mail were still working,..electricity is still flowing.  LIfe was going on like it always did, only people were dying from this disease.  Now, it seems like exotic animals from Africa and Asia are running wild in the streets of NYC.

Why are cars everywhere, blocking the streets?  If people just died while they were driving, they'd still be in their cars, as well as keys.  And if cars are indeed blocking the streets, how in the world could anyone get through the Lincoln Tunnel, of all places.  NYC is a frickin' nutcase place as it is, in terms of driving.  Youc an barely get through city streets on a normal day at 2:00 in the morning.

If these are escaped animals from the zoo, how did they get out?

I honestly don't want to be critical and bitchy, but I'm always a stickler for details, and this just kinda hit me like, WTF?

I do like that you wrote some good action and it is interesting, so kudos for that.

If I shouldn't be questioning anything and just saying "Great job!" whether or not I mean it, I apologize, but I feel that I have to ask these quesitons.

Also, Michael, can we get the instructions that each person gets, after their post is up, so we know what they had to work with, and maybe why they went where they did?  I think that would be really interesting and enlightening as well.

Again, I mean no ill will with these comments, Yohn.  Cool?
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My first thought was the zoo. These animals are rabid. They'd have killed their jailors and broken out.

Anyway, I got the impression that the outbreak has been around for a while now when I read Mcornetto's scene. If anything, it was your scene that cofused me a little bit.

You seem to be placing the cause of all the death on the virus slowly killing humans, but I figure the animals to be the cause of all the crashed cars and stuff.

But still, you would think the rate of infection would be different in Ottawa or Detroit  than it is in New York.

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Aditionally, look at our characters and their stories--the rest of the outbreak's victims all had stories too, and God knows most of them were crazy enough that Rhinos ended up on the streets of NY. Maybe some idiot hippy busted them out of the zoo--whatever. The point of this is Shiva and our characters, NOT why the world is the way it is.

This is essentially a role-playing game. If you were stuck in this post-apocalyptic world, you would not be wondering why the hell there are leopards in the streets, you would be trying to stay alive.
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Yeah, I guess that's the only answer.  I just wanted to get a little insight from the actual writer...somehting that we don't get to do all that often.

Again, this is just the way I am, so I hope no one is offended or PO'd.

Personally, I don't see how these zoo animals would be breaking out, as zoos (especially a zoo (or zoos) in NYC) are pretty well put together to keep animals in.

Guess I'm just being a bit critical tonight.  My Fantasy Football team just got eliminated with the loss of Heiden and McNabb's INT...I'm a bit upset, so again, my aplogies fro bringing it in here...
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I do not think anybody is offended because of your post.

You brought up some interesting questions (I for one was ready to write a dog-attack scene considering how they're the most common animals in New York--truth be told, I was a bit surprised when I read all these scenes with exotic animals).

But seeing as how this is a collaborative effort, we are supposed to cover the story bit by bit. This thing isn't over yet. No questions have been answered. I say, give it time.
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That's cool.

I actually looked up all the wild life in and around Ottawa.  I also looked up the locale I used as my setting and because it was not a remote locale, I decided against using anything like bears, etc.

You're right...anything goes.  I am an inquisitive type though, so I felt like I had to ask.

Looking good so far everyone.  I'm onboard and will do my best not be a complete A-Hole.
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Quoted from ReaperCreeper

(I for one was ready to write a dog-attack scene considering how they're the most common animals in New York--truth be told


Nope...it's rats


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Rhinoceros? Yeah.... it's a little odd but there are zoos and rhinos are some hefty bitches man.  I would assume once this virus hit the zoo there would be so much chaos there has to be mistakes happening. Someone feeding the rhinos leaves a cage open as they run to help someone else...something.

Either way, lovely update
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Nothing bad Dreamscale.

The electricity probably runs on different times in each city so one of them broke early than the other one. The important thing is the different times zones. lol. Animals...like people said the zoo. You can fill the details on your own.

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I'm a bit in there with Dreamscale on his comments...maybe it's the air we breathe in AZ

I can set my imagination dial up...and I did think the animals appeared from the zoo...(filling in the blanks myself) I think Orange made a great point about caos and zoo keepers helping others and leaving doors open...in the state of affairs that the world is in with Shiva...I suspect that there would be lots of coas...so much we couldn't imagine it...when it's my turn I am sure going to try!

The world has got to be a nasty smelling place of death at this point...empty cars and cars with dead bodies...it would probably be gruesone beyond comprehension...

Let's all stay positive and make this the best da** off-the-cuff screenplay exercise ever!


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Ok, not that I haven't been known to do it before, but I'm going to throw logic out the window on this one (meaning where all the exotic animals came from).

My answer to that is Shiva. If we want to logify it, we could have them being pariticle-ized into place by the intelligent force of this demiurge.

I think if we go back and work a rewrite of many rewrites on this, we should definitely consider this for the set up.

Good questions there Dreamscale.

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If Shiva is a good, then I'm sure he can do even more than just craze animals and cause outbreaks. Although it is focused more on thr Thriller/Horror route, at its root, this is ultimately a Fantasy story--and in Fantasy, the implausible is plausible.
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I think the animals having escaped from the zoo is a good enough explanation.  And remember we don't have to limit these scenes to animals.  Try something different. There's lots of dangers out there.

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I know for my part, I looked up wildlife native to the area, and I stretched it a little bit with the cougars. But there are wild cougars in northern Michigan (as James pointed in the scene), so they're a bit South of where they belong. However, it's hard to say where these critters would be if man weren't holding them back. They might look for a warmer climate or something.

Oh, and if someone who is in a Detroit scene doesn't mind doing me a favor...can you accidentally torpedo the billing part of the Detroit Medical Center? Their billing manager is really getting on my nerves. You leave 'em a hundred voicemails, and then they email your manager stating that you still need to call them "whenever you're ready."

Oh, and the tracking sheet is still incorrect in regards to my part, and doesn't show Dreamscale's or Yohn's turns.


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Hey Dreamscale, absolutely fair questions there.


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Question - Why is there a wild boar, a snow leopard, and a white rhino in NYC?  Where in the world did they come from?  This is merely a question I would ask if I was reading this script from scratch or if I was watching it a a theater.


The deal with the animals was the zoo as some have said.  My idea that was in the midst of the chaos and people going mad at what seemed like the end of the world, these animals escaped and roamed free across the city, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake.  I figured I'd leave it for people to figure out though.


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As far as I knew, this disease just hit...people are just now starting to die out.  In my scene, which appears to be a "continuous" scene, just a different locale, 2 days earlier, TV, cell phone, and E-mail were still working,..electricity is still flowing.  LIfe was going on like it always did, only people were dying from this disease.  Now, it seems like exotic animals from Africa and Asia are running wild in the streets of NYC.


In mcornettos first scene, Colin says that the disease was everywhere and it's been 2 weeks since the disease hit, leaving an estimated 10 million are dead as of the last official report.  It was a time of madness, and has been 3 days since Colin last saw another person... he even thinks he might be the last one left.

Also in the second scene, when the stray dogs are attacking Cordelia, Colin is aware that the animals are rabid/infected, hence his concern about Cordelia being scratched.

This gave me the impression that people must know about the animals, and that things are pretty much post-apocalyptic at this point.


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Why are cars everywhere, blocking the streets?  If people just died while they were driving, they'd still be in their cars, as well as keys.  And if cars are indeed blocking the streets, how in the world could anyone get through the Lincoln Tunnel, of all places.  NYC is a frickin' nutcase place as it is, in terms of driving.  Youc an barely get through city streets on a normal day at 2:00 in the morning.


Taking into account the crazed animals killing the living and eating the dead, and the looting and violence from surviving humans, I envisioned the streets to show the aftermath of all that.

And I guess the rest you can just put down to me never having been to New York or the states!

Hope that at least explains some of the issues in my piece.
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Sounds good Yohn.  It is tough to write about a place you've never been to before.

We're cool, and everything is good.  Thanks for responding.
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Personally, I didn't see the world with cars blocking everything everywhere. The way the illness was portrayed was not a sudden death, but a slow death that took a day or so to get you. So what would happen when the vast majority caught the disease is they'd go home and end up dying there thinking it was the cold and they needed rest. As the population dwindled by using their sick days, the looters would take temporary hold by taking what they could from the increasing unoccupied stores, and the dwindling law enforcement (they would catch it quicker since they're in the thick of most tragedies) wouldn't be able to keep it under control, which is where the post-apocalyptic look comes from with the broken windows and fires and such. . But once the disease got its foothold, the streets would be largely empty, much the way "I Am Legend" was. You'd inevitably have a few people who'd be stubborn and say they aren't sick die in their cars in transit, but that would be the minority. I pictured the cities appearing largely deserted.


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I agree with you George.  I see it that wy as well.  Although in I am Legend, there were quite a few cars blocking various roads, etc. (I tink, at least?).  Anyone who dies in their car would most likely still be in their car, and I doubt hat any animals would be able to bust into teh car and drag their asses out...they wouldn't need to because there'd be easy prey all over the place.
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And the good thing about having this happen in different locations is that the effects can be a bit different in each of the locations.
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This is true, come to think of it, on I Am Legend. I remember that the roads are largely clear for our Omega Man to drive down them at higher speeds without a problem though. I would think this world would be somewhat like that. When I pictured Detroit, I pictured the roads empty for the most part.


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Just an update. I'm putting some last minute touches on the script with the help of Sandra and her wonderful dream making abilities and of course my buddy Mr. George  Willson (audience goes wild). My entry should be up late tonight or early tomorrow morning.

Cheers!

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I guess early tomorrow would be more likely. lol. Dang, I'm itching to start writing my turn. I just hope I get the geography right. Never been anywhere near NY.

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I am waiting too for Orange's entry My brain is already working..wheels are turning...gerbals are spinning those wheels!

I am going to be extremely "work" busy Thursday and Friday as I found out today that the Graphic Media company I am working with on a couple of projects will be closed for 2 weeks...so I don't have a choice but to finish these projects.  

I will have my post in on Saturday...so I hope that will work with the timeline.  

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Thanks for putting me in there itmightbeorange. You captured my character good. lol. I wonder how it's going to turn out.

And Sandra, how do these dreams come to you? lol.  It's interesting.

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Well done! Dana and Sandra.    

MBCgirl is up next!  And as I understand it, there's a decision to be made.
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Am I missing something here?  I don't see Ripley's character anywhere in Orange's or Sandra's post.

Help!!!
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Thanks for putting me in there itmightbeorange. You captured my character good. lol. I wonder how it's going to turn out.

And Sandra, how do these dreams come to you? lol.  It's interesting.

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Ah yes...there it is.  Your 2nd post didn't show up for some reason until just now. Wierd.  Sorry!
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First...Sandra...there is a certain "something special" in the way you write and use your words to create images....the interesting part - is that they are more the type of images you feel, not just see

Orange...very well done! Nice touch on bringing in the dog and the red leash

It will be tough to follow you two for sure!  

I have been thinking about my post, but I will not get to it until Saturday as I have mentioned, but I think there is a lot to chew on here.

We're back up to Canada. ey!


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C'mon MBC!!!  No excuses...and no being late.  Get it in...and let's get it on!

Looking forward to seeing how Jack, Sam, and Albert make their way towards the Falls.

Bring it!
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I have been thinking about my post, but I will not get to it until Saturday as I have mentioned, but I think there is a lot to chew on here.

We're back up to Canada. ey!


I'm really looking forward to your post MBC! I'm excited to see some more meetings of characters.

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I am excited to write my post too!  Gathering lots of info   Hopefully next time I get a dream from the masterful dream weaver

I'm having a hard time concentrating on my work...my mind keeps drifting to a Hummer occupied with Jack Stone and sweet, 71 year old Albert!!


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Albert ROCKS!!!!  BTW...his character is based on the Survivor winner, Bob.  Hope some of you saw this new season and can see this.  Bob rocked..a total underdog who shocked everyone and dominated just about everything.

I sure hope Albert can prevail and "survive".  He's got alot of help from his wife Betty, who is no longer with us...but watching from above.

Shiva will get what's coming to it!  We will prevail!!!  Long live the humans!!!!!!
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Albert ROCKS!!!!  BTW...his character is based on the Survivor winner, Bob.  Hope some of you saw this new season and can see this.  Bob rocked..a total underdog who shocked everyone and dominated just about everything.

I sure hope Albert can prevail and "survive".  He's got alot of help from his wife Betty, who is no longer with us...but watching from above.

Shiva will get what's coming to it!  We will prevail!!!  Long live the humans!!!!!!


I personally love Shiva and all the aspects thereof.

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Destruction is a necessary and beautiful thing; as hard as it is to deal with, it moves everything forward.

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Destruction is a necessary and beautiful thing; as hard as it is to deal with, it moves everything forward.

Sandra


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Ahhhh so true...like when Mt St Helen's blew in Washington State...everything was devastated...gone, but it has grown back...the earth is richer now.

While I understand the concept...Shiva is not the good source of that force   Ohhh we have sides   Aren't there always sides?  The Shiva God has two sides (as seen in the dream) It is both male and female...poor thing

I am still on schedule for finishing my projects so my day will ease off by evening tomorrow...I will work on my post and get it up as early as humanly possible so it isn't painful for too many people! lol

Sogni de oro! Ciao!


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Tracksheet is updated and emails are sent.  

If you are having trouble seeing the new tracksheet try reload or refreshing.

Cheers,

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Ahhhh so true...like when Mt St Helen's blew in Washington State...everything was devastated...gone, but it has grown back...the earth is richer now.

While I understand the concept...Shiva is not the good source of that force   Ohhh we have sides   Aren't there always sides?  The Shiva God has two sides (as seen in the dream) It is both male and female...poor thing

I am still on schedule for finishing my projects so my day will ease off by evening tomorrow...I will work on my post and get it up as early as humanly possible so it isn't painful for too many people! lol

Sogni de oro! Ciao!


Yes, like the Pine trees that cannot grow unless there is a fire. It's the only way for them to reseed because they need the fire in order to melt the heavy resin encasing the seeds.

When an old growth forest experiences destruction due to fire, a new ecology begins. Aspen are one of the first to repopulate the area because they are trees that are "wind pollinated". What happens then, are the deer will show up because they like to feed on the tops of the young aspen and so a whole new ecosystem develops that is unique from the old growth forest.

Another difficult but good truth of the destructive force is when the womb of a women expels an infant. It's not pleasant for the mother or the child, but there is no birth without an end to the close relationship founded in the womb.

I don't like it when bad things happen to anyone or anything, but there's a greater purpose in everything; we see it on our little human level and our little human level plays out at a cosmic and atomic level.

But yes, it's not fun when it's happening to us. Hard to reconcile it, I know-- which makes Shiva an extremely moving movie.

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Shiva will pay for her'his sins!  We are the humans...we will survive!

Can't wait to see what will become of the new "alliance"...Jack, Sam, and Albert...don't worry Earth, we're here for you!!


AYYYEEE!!!!!!!!!
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Shiva is a figment of your imaginations. Whatever this force is that draws them all together, it's not some all powerful god being. It's clearly something else because it's just not logical. I don't know what it is yet, but it can be explained in a logical manner.


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Shiva is a figment of your imaginations. Whatever this force is that draws them all together, it's not some all powerful god being. It's clearly something else because it's just not logical. I don't know what it is yet, but it can be explained in a logical manner.


I love your logic James, ahem, I mean George, LOL. A can never get around paradoxes though. And it always blows me away when I read quantum physics stuff and just think that atoms are mostly nothing. And now they figure that just the act of observing something changes things and that everything is in what's called superposition.

The thing is that logic is beautiful because without it, you can't have dislogic. I invented a wo--rd. I invented a wo--rd!

It seems, whenever man figures out one thing, he finds out another thing on top of it and this process continues infinitely. Right now I'm thinking of how they just discovered viruses inside of viruses. It's in Discover magazine. And it's this discovery that leads them to believing that this is the reason why viruses mutate so much-- a kind of evolutionary self protection mechanism.

Hey, maybe Shiva could use this idea with the rabies virus that has went completely wonky I don't know, but there's some logic for you.



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I changed the tracksheet so that it doesn't use an image any longer. It should refresh better than the image.  Can everyone see the tracksheet?  Let me know.
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Holy crap man that is one huge tracksheet! I was almost blinded by it--not kidding dude. x_x



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Holy crap man that is one huge tracksheet! I was almost blinded by it--not kidding dude. x_x


That any better?
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That any better?


You guys are really amazing to work with. All of the planning that's went into developing the concept and the tracksheet, all of the questions about how this should run.

I'm inspired by just thinking about the minds involved in this.

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As per teh track sheet...why is Jack in danger?

Also, the previous truns is incorrect, as I wrote teh Ottawa intro, not Ripley.

Otherwise, it looks great!
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Fixed previous turn.  You should see it next time you look.

Jack is in danger because you took your turn.  A character can't be killed until the player that has created them has taken their turn.
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Then aren't all the other characters that have been created by a writer who has taken a turn in danger also?
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Ah! Not in the Ottawa tribe.  
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Ah, so you're saying they will be in danger when someone in that tribe is writing?  Since Samantha's up now, I'm the only one in danger?

I think I got it.  Sorry...sometimes I'm a little slow..usually on Saturday night!
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Hi fellow "SHIVA" junkies!

I am just finishing up and will have it posted soon...

  


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Hi fellow "SHIVA" junkies!

I am just finishing up and will have it posted soon...

  


Rest well tonight MBC. I'm going to sign off now, but I'll be sure to be here tomorrow.

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It will be up in 20 minutes   Sorry... sweet dreams Sandra.


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So if I understand that part correctly, when it's Mr. Ripley's turn on the Detroit tribe, both mine and itmightbeorange's characters will be in danger. Is that an accurate assessment?

And according to the timestamp on your post, MBC, it's been 22 minutes, and I don't see a scene yet.


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You are correct. When it is Ripley's turn both you and Orange are in danger.
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She's been nagging the shit out of me,a dn I should have been in bed awhile ago.  I think she's done now...women!!!!!  
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sorry people!  I had issues posting...I had extra spaces on my page and I couldn't get rid of them and had to post in two pieces...  I'm sleep deprived and challenged to start with...and yes...I did keep grumpy ol' Dreamscale up late...thanks for the help Jeff.

I did manage to get all my scene heading bolded though...so at least I leaned something tonight!

Thanks for being patient.

~m~


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Well done you two.  MBC don't forget to send me your challenge.
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Can you explain that again ...I'm loopy.  I know it needs to be some instruction for what I would like to see in the next scene...is that correct?


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Challenges:
Challenges allow an author to provide special instructions to the next author.  A challenge is a one sentence directive usually in the form of an action.  

For example if during your turn you have a scene with Charlie and Sam.  Charlie and Sam are arguing about a ring that Charlie is wearing. Both claim ownership.  You leave the scene on a cliff hanger but you intended Sam to get the ring.  You leave a challenge like  “Sam steals the ring from Charlie” or “Charlie gives Sam the ring”.  The next person in your tribe will need to carry out this action.

Challenges should not be posted – they are secret messages that I will pass on to the next author.  

You may not challenge the next author to kill another character.  

Since storylines are isolated in Shiva, Challenges will only apply to authors of the same tribe.
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got it...thank you.


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Tracksheet is updated. Next up is the Reaper.
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This shouldn't take too long. Ripley already went over my scenes. All I'm doing is revising and stuff. So all I need to do is get in touch with Sandra to work on Cordie's dream.

Cornetto, I can't ever get anything bolded here for some reason. Could you bold my headings when I post my scenes please?

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Sure, once you post it - I'll bold it.
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I enjoy how this is going. I think it's better than the killer game. lol. I guess I'm going to start writing now. I wonder what can I come up? hmmmm.


Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages.
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It's much better than the Killer game..not to say that wasn't fun though.  This is better because it's no longer virgin territory.  It's also much more serious, and defined.

I think it's great and Michael needs to be thanked and appreciated.
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MBC, I'm completely impressed by your post.

It's moving us along really well! I really like how you've clarified just "why" these particular people are still alive and not the others because this is what the audience would be asking. This is critical and you've answered it by explaining that there's a common thread in all of them which are the dreams and that they're being called.

Also, you've moved us at ground level through the territory showing us the dire straights of the situation.

Your introduction of Eddy is superb. The fact that there's something off with him is planted and it pulls us along.

Way to go!!!

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Thanks Sandra   Your post is greatly appreciated.  

I felt like a number of people would not be impressed...so I was a little worried about the post as there were no explosions, etc. A rather tame post...but it does get one thinking.  

I wanted it to deal with the more practical elements of the story.  Things I would want to know about...the use of communication, getting better prepared in an outdoor store...the world is in survival mode...additionally, why are they alive, what is drawing|calling them?  Those are the things I would be asking if I were watching, so I wanted to address them.

Thanks again.   ~m~


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Hey all

Happy to see you are all enjoying the new game format.  

I've been very pleased to see the writing quality being consistently maintained during this exercise.  You are all doing quite well and it wouldn't be the game it is without each and every one of you.

Cheers,

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Hey all

Happy to see you are all enjoying the new game format.  

I've been very pleased to see the writing quality being consistently maintained during this exercise.  You are all doing quite well and it wouldn't be the game it is without each and every one of you.

Cheers,

Michael


Michael, you've created an excellent premise. I know you worked tirelessly with the rules and formulating a track sheet and all kinds of research.

As Dreamscale has already stated, you are to be commended for all of this. It's a really hard job to keep up with it all; so thank YOU!

Right now, I've got the honor of working with Julio and I've got to say, he's wrote a FANTASTIC SCENE! I kept thinking to myself, "Wow! He's really done a good job!" You'll see when it's posted.

This is a real challenge for me working at this point. There's just a lot of work to work with.

Right now I think there's an excellent variance happening in the writing between the action scenes that are high power and moving, the more, as MBC girl just stated, tame, but expository scenes and image related dream scenes.

It would be a good exercise I think after the game, to create a spreadsheet labeling and numbering the kinds of scenes: A = Action CI= Character Illumination etc... and seeing which ones are back-to-back.

We could even go so far as labeling the mood and flavor of each scene.

Perhaps everyone could be tasked with a particular job in the study of the first draft of Shiva and bring problems and solutions to the table.

That would be another game.

Tomorrow, I'm going to read the script through again when I'm fresh and make some notes.

I'll try not to be too long, but this isn't easy.

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I want to add my agreement and Kudo's to Michael as well.  I can only imagine holding down a job, and working us through all this, not to mention all the communication that goes on - on the back end.  We're probably like a lot of little children with our endless questions

This is a wonderful exercise in writing...while it has a lot of "open for interpretation" aspects...it also has the main backbone of the story line to keep us grounded.

You have done a FINE job Cornetto and we all appreciate your investment of time and energy into our "together" project!

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'Kay guys. We're almost done. We should be posting this early tomorrow (more like later today considering it's 1:05 am over here.lol)

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Merry Christmas everyone,

I've just had to post my effort to Michael so I'm hoping it will be okay come judgement day.  I'll be gone tomorrow and I don't think there'll be internet access.

EDIT: I've just read the rules properly.  I think my effort is a little over-the-top.  Oops.  Maybe mine could be a dream Michael?

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I'm sure Julio will be posting part two of his scene very soon. He's done an excellent job!

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Nicely done Julio and Sandra,

A slightly revealing look at Leona during the dream.  And the three caballeros finally get together.  What's waiting for them at the next stop?

And what's going to happen for the Detroit crew?  Only Ripley can answer that and he's up next.

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*shakes fist at Ripley* You better not lol. Good work guys, and as usual Lurvely dream sequence Sandra.
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Hmmm...very good posts...but not sure how I like that the main "Right and Wrong" of this story has become the dreams...I do love the dream sequences.

I do have a problem with the insinuation that Samantha is now a liar and that is her character flaw...not what I believed for her character...as she works from "sight" to help others.  

Oh well...what can I say

Great job Julio and Sandra.


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Hmmm...very good posts...but not sure how I like that the main "Right and Wrong" of this story has become the dreams...I do love the dream sequences.


I would suggest, and this is only truly a suggestion because the dreams are Sandra's domain, that the dreams concentrate more on reasons to meet Shiva rather than examine characters and try to explain the story.  This is simply because the story is the domain of everyone else.

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I would suggest, and this is only truly a suggestion because the dreams are Sandra's domain, that the dreams concentrate more on reasons to meet Shiva rather than examine characters and try to explain the story.  This is simply because the story is the domain of everyone else.

Cheers and Merry Christmas all.


I whole heartedly agree.  No worries though...I'm busy doing holiday baking...the flour on my face hides my wounded spirit


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Merry Christmas everyone!!  May God bless us all on this very special time of the year.

I have to agree with MBC, cause I didn't see her character as a liar in any way shape or form.  But..this is truly  something that we all chime in on, and each input is what it is, and we all have the ability to shape each and evey character.

Nice job you guys!  This is truly cool shit!!!!
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Hmmm...very good posts...but not sure how I like that the main "Right and Wrong" of this story has become the dreams...I do love the dream sequences.

I do have a problem with the insinuation that Samantha is now a liar and that is her character flaw...not what I believed for her character...as she works from "sight" to help others.  

Oh well...what can I say

Great job Julio and Sandra.


I'm trying to do character work, but nothing is written in stone. I wasn't painting Samantha as a liar, but as a protector.

Consider:

If you were given the choice to tell someone they are going to meet with some horrible fate, would you tell them? Would Samantha tell them?

It's a point of Samantha's character.

If she would tell them, then we need to adjust the scene to reflect that.

To me, it's all about character and shifting things as we move along. It's the work.

Any input is greatly appreciated and I'll be happy to change the dreams to suit your feelings.

Because we're all going in cold, it's hard because we're working from our perspectives and we often don't have a clear feeling until after the fact.

This is an excellent point though. Would she? Wouldn't she? It's such a good point that a whole scene could be developed on this premise alone and it would be fantastic to watch.

This is why it's so exciting working together. Everyone brings something different to the table.

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Merry Christmas everyone!!  May God bless us all on this very special time of the year.

I have to agree with MBC, cause I didn't see her character as a liar in any way shape or form.  But..this is truly  something that we all chime in on, and each input is what it is, and we all have the ability to shape each and evey character.

Nice job you guys!  This is truly cool shit!!!!


What we do with this is entirely up to us, but what I'm realizing with Jeff's post here is that:

"I didn't see her character as a liar in any way shape or form"

is an excellent driving force to a revealing dream scene like this if it were pursued.

The "Dirty Little Secrets" theme is being played out here. The point is to delve into the characters and what makes them tick.

To discover the "bad side" of good characters makes for excellent storytelling. It's real.

The work we are faced with is defining the "true" dirty little secrets appropriate to a character.

When we know what they are, then we can edit and use subtexting from the very beginning.

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Hey Sandra - I go to someone for a yearly reading...(I know I'm a weirdo-lol) My experience is that it is confirmation of what is going on in my life...things I probably know...or guidance if you will.  I don't base my life around it, but I have had some very "insightful, right on" readings...most times they are of a positive nature...especially after my mother died.  (She passed on Christmas Eve...way to go mom...the woman LOVED CHristmas!)

If "She" as in Samantha were to "see" some impending danger...would she share it...and if she doesn't...then I don't consider it a lie.  If it is for protection sake of that individual to withhold information...then I don't think that falls into the "dirty little secret" category as you suggest...or a lie.  

I believe you are "leading" the story as to its outcome...(like a very fine lawyer would do a strategic witness I might add ...portraying SHIVA as a GOD...do we believe in it or not...that is a good question and since the story is still being written...the jury is still out on that.    

I thought this was supposed to play out in character development with each individual...it may be that Samantha will now need to reconcile her feelings Question her motives in helping others by what she sees.  I'm down with that for sure...and I believe she will...as she carries something deep inside of her that shakes her foundation...something she fears on a personal level. I've thought about "her" a lot.

Anyway, that's my two cents for the night *wink

You know I love your writing Sandra and I hail you as a magical, wonderful writer who writes imagery significant to us all.

Blessings...it's almost Christmas and I do LOVE this time of year!!

I'm not irrated...just want to share my feelings since we are all contributors to this exciting new tale.  How we respond to this being and it's call is the story...good, bad or indifferent.


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Merry Christmas crew. I'm not making guarantees but I'm going to see if I can have my work posted by tomorrow. I'm editing at the moment, but I still need to send the work to Julio to give his opinion on the revision. A little Christmas present to you all. And it's going to be a shocker especially for tomorrow.


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Hope you guys enjoy it. This was difficult. lol. especially for today. But all in the name of fun and practice.

I wanted to give a purpose to why Michael hates this god, show how he responds to other people (and vice versa), and show his gift. I think I accomplished that. The scene that started this whole thing was the last one. I liked writing that one. lol. For me it's scary. lol.


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A nice, unexpected Christmas gift, indeed.  Good job!
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If "She" as in Samantha were to "see" some impending danger...would she share it...and if she doesn't...then I don't consider it a lie.  If it is for protection sake of that individual to withhold information...then I don't think that falls into the "dirty little secret" category as you suggest...or a lie.  

I thought this was supposed to play out in character development with each individual...it may be that Samantha will now need to reconcile her feelings Question her motives in helping others by what she sees.  I'm down with that for sure...and I believe she will...as she carries something deep inside of her that shakes her foundation...something she fears on a personal level. I've thought about "her" a lot.



Me too. I've been thinking a lot about her character and some of the other ones too-- probably too much.

The idea of the secrets came from working with Dana and I thought, "Everyone has things they are not proud of." This is where I began relating the idea of Shiva's premise to the characters themselves.

As individuals, these characters are going to determine whether they hate Shiva and hold vengeance or are more neutral. In the respect that they judge Shiva, they might also be judging others that cause them grief in any way.

When I was asked to work on Shiva, I wanted to bring Shiva down to earth. I didn't want to just be writing an impersonal monster or God, however one might expect. I wanted it real and because I was compelled by Julio's character, Cordelia, she seemed the perfect choice to express Shiva through besides the multi-armed depiction that we hold.

I've done research and Shiva is much more complicated than our Western society typically understands. Because of this, I wanted to do Shiva more justice. I wanted to do the characters more justice.

It seemed the perfect route to go after working with Dana and finding out Leona's secret. By exposing the characters as real people neither sinner or saint, I figured the movie stands a greater chance of being successful as both a supernatural thriller type, with action elements, romance and with a psychological appeal.

I'll sign off on this post now and respond to Gabriel's post.

Again, Merry Christmas everyone!!!!

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Well done Gabe.  I liked how you used the red leashed dog again and sort of gave him character status.  

Tracksheet is updated.  I have Jayrex's post in my inbox and I just have to give it a squizz and edit.  Then I will post it.

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Thanks guys. I was frightened in how you guys were going to take it. But, all is well. I want to explain a couple of things people mentioned.

I don't see Sandra's post about Michael's internal dialogue but I was reluctant to do it. What changed my mind was actually Sk's book. He creates characters that have this inner voice which for me brings them to life. In addition, the fact that my character feels alone, he needs to communicate with someone. I guess it was the right decision.

The dog thing was itmightbeorange's scene at the end. Thanks, itmightbeorange. She introduced the dog so I wanted to complete it especially give some sort of explanation on why the dog didn't kill the characters at that moment on the boat but instead help them sail off.

As always, I leave the interpretations for my crew mates and the readers to figure out. lol.

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Thanks guys. I was frightened in how you guys were going to take it. But, all is well. I want to explain a couple of things people mentioned.

I don't see Sandra's post about Michael's internal dialogue but I was reluctant to do it. What changed my mind was actually Sk's book. He creates characters that have this inner voice which for me brings them to life. In addition, the fact that my character feels alone, he needs to communicate with someone. I guess it was the right decision.

The dog thing was itmightbeorange's scene at the end. Thanks, itmightbeorange. She introduced the dog so I wanted to complete it especially give some sort of explanation on why the dog didn't kill the characters at that moment on the boat but instead help them sail off.

As always, I leave the interpretations for my crew mates and the readers to figure out. lol.

Gabe


Gabriel, I just checked, and for some reason, my post regarding your scene has disappeared.

Suffice it to say that I loved your work with Michael's character. I keep thinking, that perhaps he might snap. The dialogue: "Always the other guy." is excellent.

Gee wiz. I guess I should start backing up my posts too. But that would get too long for comments.

Anyways, I remember I also commented on how you provided more work with Dana's red leashed dog and that's really good. Also, the fact that nature is fighting back with the dogs is a good flash back scene showing some of what's been going on.

Also, the father's verse at the end resonates with me because it's one of my favorites.

Thank so much Gabriel!!

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Thanks, Sandra. But credit should also go to you guys and gals since none of this would have happened without your input.

I liked that verse to. I'm curious on how ste would take it.

Nonetheless, I find it good that improving on these scenes. Now, all I have to do is apply it to my scripts. lol.


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Sandra, I could be off here, but I think the reason your post disappeared was because you posted it in the game thread instead of the discussion thread.
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Ok. I posted Jayrex's entry for him.   Well, it's got a bit of me in it too - I hope he doesn't mind the changes I made.  And I hope you all enjoy it.


Will update the tracksheet soon.


And yes Sandra, your post was deleted because it was in the game thread.

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Sandra, I could be off here, but I think the reason your post disappeared was because you posted it in the game thread instead of the discussion thread.


Thanks Dana! That's exactly what must have happened. I've done that before and then fixed it.

I often work with several tabs open in my browser. I've been checking in a bit, but mostly I've been away for Christmas.

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I enjoyed the work with Eddy's character straight off. He's still got that smoke thing going on.

The fact that Eddy has a supernatural connection going on with his utterances is excellent. To complicate things, the wolves are attacking and Samantha is trying desperately to deal with Eddy in the back seat.

The addition of the serpent in this adds an exotic and fantastic element that I think is much needed because yes, we've seen dogs and hippos and rabid squirrels, but nothing so gigantic as a sea monster.

The only trouble I had with this really is that I feel Samantha's character is off.

When she says:

SAMANTHA
And what are we going to do with “the prophet” here?  I think we should dump him.

It sounds completely out of character.

She's A VISIONARY. Why would she comment like this?

This could be explained however. Colin already did something he didn't seem capable of; so why not Samantha? Is the dark side infiltrating and becoming pronounced?

If this is the case, then I think it's excellent and if the characters become aware of it themselves, then they'll need to figure out how to truly take control of their egoistic instincts.

The conflict in this scene is amazing!!! I'd love to see more of this.

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Merry Christmas to all   Hope everyone has had a fantastic day   

Ripley...really liked your post and throw in my agreement at how you developed the dog with the red leash and gave it more meaning to the story.  I like Michael's character and how alone he feels in the world at present...and his "blow the house up" scene would have me on the edge of my seat at the theater.


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The dog thing was itmightbeorange's scene at the end. Thanks, itmightbeorange. She introduced the dog so I wanted to complete it especially give some sort of explanation on why the dog didn't kill the characters at that moment on the boat but instead help them sail off.


Just one question about the above statement...Maybe I'm wrong...but I believe the dog with the red leash died when it landed in the boat???  Correct?

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Sorry to be such a pest...but when I left Eddy and the other three at the end of my post, I implied that Eddy had his own rig and was stocking up...that's why he stopped at the Outdoor Outfitters...he wouldn't do that if he was walking.  Also Albert made sure he was set up with a CB...so I was a bit confused that he walked off looking for a car with keys in it...



  


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I implied that Eddy had his own rig and was stocking up...that's why he stopped at the Outdoor Outfitters...he wouldn't do that if he was walking.  Also Albert made sure he was set up with a CB...so I was a bit confused that he walked off looking for a car with keys in it...

Perhaps you didn't imply it enough for jayrex to pick up on it?  This is basically jayrex's post - besides some cosmetic changes my editing of it changed the ending because his ending was a bit much (like "an eye in the sky" a bit much).

  


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Cornetto you're awesome!


I just went back to figure out how to put Ripley's Statement in quotes and when I came back his quote was already fixed   lol  You work FAST dude!


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I think it's implied enough...but I suppose there will be disconnects from time to time.   

I do believe when we follow the last sequenced post in our tribe...we should work from that post so that the story connects.  I felt like my post was long so I didn't labor too much with information about Eddy's Rig.   ext time I will be more clear.

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No need to be sorry.  This kind of stuff is going to happen.  It's not like it's a huge disconnect and would be easily fixed in another draft.  
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No need to be sorry.  This kind of stuff is going to happen.  It's not like it's a huge disconnect and would be easily fixed in another draft.  


And also, sometimes mistakes or missing links can be instrumental in the development of new ideas.

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I personally don't like the serpent thing.  It's too "out there" and I feel the tone we had going has been lost.  But that's how these things go...no single person is in control and as Sandra said, sometimes that opens doors that wouldn't otherwise be opened to us.

Looking forward to seeing which direction we'll be heading.

Hope everyone had a wonderful and safe Christmas!!!!
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Now, the tribes split. Tragedy. I am also curious how as things go. Can't wait for the nxt post.


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I'm going to make this comment again because I accidentally posted in the game thread and it was deleted.

I really liked the conflict Jayrex created inside the car, but I wanted to bring up one thing:

When Samantha says,

SAMANTHA
And what are we going to do with “the prophet” here?  I think we should dump him.

It seems totally out of character. After all, she herself is a visionary
Having said that, it's an interesting thing to work with because this could be the dark side of people's selfish nature's coming to light. The same thing happened with Colin. He allowed Cordelia to be placed in danger when he had, in the beginning, tried to save her.

She obviously didn't need his help, but he didn't know that.

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SAMANTHA
And what are we going to do with “the prophet” here?  I think we should dump him.

It seems totally out of character. After all, she herself is a visionary


She says this because he was just causing her lots of pain by pulling her hair.  She's human, she's allowed to react in a less than generous manner to being hurt.  
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If I might interject

I'm not sure Sam would have said it like that....but she didn't want to have Eddy in the car with them, so maybe she was hoping they would dump him as he immediately became difficult and all they kept asking her to do is control him   I think it's pretty hard for most women to control a guy that is acting out of some weird supernatural strength.

Maybe it's the word "prophet" that is wrong in the phrase and that can be easily changed...I don't feel Sam would think Eddy a phrophet at all...as she saw the darkness around him.

I have realised that I personnally don't have control over what others write about my character or in that case neither do any of us...and that is something we have to let go of and just learn to roll with.   That is what a collaborative effort is all about.  I have learned it well this last week of posts...but I'm all good with it.

I will address and make changes in her character accordingly.  So no worries...it's all good.


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Would "him" be a better replacement? Since it is about the guy and not the whole vision.


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My feeling is that Sam sees the darkness around Eddy...she would probably just say "dump him".

Sam's character is very upper class, proper...she says "yes" instead of "yea" she's kind hearted and not bitchy...but Eddy gives her a look at what she "fears" and maybe that can be the reason for her change in character at this moment...plus, once your're bitten, doesn't that mean you are doomed to get the virus and die...wouldn't that be what all of them would be thinking? They can't save Eddy...

Anyway, that's what I think as it falls in line with the rest of the story thus far...it's rather like a chess game...one play affects another.

It's fine where it is at.


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Hello all,

Thanks Michael for posting my post up.  Abit different towards the end but hey it's fine how it ends.

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.plus, once your're bitten, doesn't that mean you are doomed to get the virus and die...wouldn't that be what all of them would be thinking? They can't save Eddy...



Well, at this point in the global catastrophe I would think that most of the people susceptible to the virus have died off. Perhaps the reason that our characters are alive is because they have some genetic immunity to this virus. Maybe this is also linked to their dreams.

In a game that I am playing there are four survivors and they are immune, naturally, to the virus that turns everyone into zombies so the only way they can die is through blood loss and falling from high buildings, just your normal stuff.

Plus, I could be lying here, most virus's have at least a small number of people naturally immune to it, even if the small number is like 3%. So yeah, i was just under the assumption they were immune, but maybe they don't know that yet. And maybe eddy isn't immune...who knows.
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If I might interject

Maybe it's the word "prophet" that is wrong in the phrase and that can be easily changed...I don't feel Sam would think Eddy a prophet at all...as she saw the darkness around him.


I agree that the word prophet sounds wrong. Not on the point that he might actually be getting some kind of prophetic knowledge or vision, but on the point of Samantha's character.

It seems that Samantha might shout in protest with as few words as possible. Also, how angry she actually gets in this scene is something that will reveal a lot about her character.

If she demonstrates that she's all out angry (and she has a right to be) then I think she's a female force to be reckoned with. The fact of the dialogue just a little earlier however shows a typical weak female stereotype when she crosses her hands on her chest and goes along with the decision to let Eddy come along.

After the fact, she's getting ordered to control a guy that seems to have supernatural strength and she didn't want him along to begin with.

I think this scene has tremendous potential from a character, conflict and exposition point of view.

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Hi Guys, I have posted my entry.

I hope it is okay, not really been able to find much time to really think about this as much as I would have liked. Christmas festivities and all that! My aim really was just to try and get everyone together and on the road. Unfortunately not really made a great effort of character development, sorry about that but hopefully someone else can pick up on that.

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Well done GM.  

And now everyone is introduced.  I wonder when the first kill is going to happen.

Stebrown is up next.
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Haha, I love Heidi's character. She spunky. I like that. I laughed when she said... "He never tried to steal my things if that is an indication of anything..."

Good scene had a good feel about it too, in the beginnin, very..aftermathish. Like the calm before the storm...

Anyway, good job Gm.
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I think it was about time a Heidi-type character was introduced. She brings up some spark to the game.

I liked the scene, despite some typos and grammar errors which detracted a bit from the read. But, good effort regardless.

May I ask, though, why it's only a single scene and not two like the rest of the turns? Or has GM yet to post his second scene? If so, then pay me no heed :p

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Julio,

You are only supposed to do one post.  Exception is the dreams which may split your post.  The two post entries that are too long for one post is sort of breaking the rules, but I'm allowing it this time.
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lol. xD

I had no idea about that. Since most turns so far have been double-posts, I thought we were allowed 2 scenes per turn. Sorry :S

BTW I was just re-reading all of the NY tribe's scenes so they'd be fresh in my mind when reading GM's scene. I don't know how I could've forgotten to mention this before, but May 17th -- the date in Cordie's dream -- is actually my birthday! lol. Creepy. Sandra, did you do that on-purpose? O_o

I'm really excited to see where the story goes, specially once all the tribes (or what's left of them anyway) get together.

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Cheers Orange, Reaper. I have just had a quick pass to tidy up some of the errors. If you find any please do not hesitate to PM me, if I can fix them it may help anyone else reading. It is weird really being worried about letting everyone else down.
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You did a great job GM...one correction is you mention Bruce has a shotgun,but when you say he shoots ...the "bullet" misses.  Shotguns have shells with lots of BB's in them so it shoots a spray of BB's that usually spread into a "pattern" of a couple of feet, depending on the distance....so you might want to exchange the shotgun for a 30/6 rifle.

Also in details...not sure how long a person can be upside down...that could be something we research and get an answer for.

I too enjoyed Heidi's humor...she is spunky and I smiled at many of her comments.  Again...great job!

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Big LOL!

I think I posted in the game thread again.

Anyways Gm. You did a good job with your scene. It flowed really well.

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lol. xD

I don't know how I could've forgotten to mention this before, but May 17th -- the date in Cordie's dream -- is actually my birthday! lol. Creepy. Sandra, did you do that on-purpose? O_o
--Julio


It must have something to do with the fact that I was feeling your character very strongly and maybe that I was dreaming. LOL

When it came time to choosing a day, I just felt May 17 was right.

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Cheers Orange, Reaper. I have just had a quick pass to tidy up some of the errors. If you find any please do not hesitate to PM me, if I can fix them it may help anyone else reading. It is weird really being worried about letting everyone else down.


It's not weird. It's a wonderful thing!!!

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You did a great job GM...one correction is you mention Bruce has a shotgun,but when you say he shoots ...the "bullet" misses.  Shotguns have shells with lots of BB's in them so it shoots a spray of BB's that usually spread into a "pattern" of a couple of feet, depending on the distance....so you might want to exchange the shotgun for a 30/6 rifle.


Schoolboy error there I am afraid, that's what you get for not thinking something through properly and rushing. I have changed it to a handgun, thanks for correcting that Morgan.

Cheers.

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It could still be a rifle of some kind if you want. Most rifles have bullets and a longer range than handguns. Shotguns are about the only "gun" weapons with the spreading ammo.

I almost said "only weapons," but then I remembered the claymore mine...


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Also in details...not sure how long a person can be upside down...that could be something we research and get an answer for.



~m~  


Yeah I was thinking about that in when i read it, but it didnt really stick. Hanging upside down like that lends itself to the possibility for a stroke, kidney stones and blood clots and just general badness.

I thought about it again today and it would have made more sense if Maybe if the time were cut down to half an hour . Then her legs would probably be numb (like p[ins and needles numb not like...oh god I'm paralyzed numb) and she were a little loopy from all that blood rushing to the head.  here would be more of a likelihood to find someone upside down in a car, possibly passed out (and that's why he thinks she is dead at first). But the more you bring logic into it the harder it is for her character to have such wonderful lines. But yeah, I was just thinking it would probably be best if she were perhaps not upside down but in the car, maybe she cut herself loose, but she was weak from the windshield cracking on impact and slicing her up pretty badly. So she'd still appear dead because she was weak, but her lines would mostly be the same. yeah....i'm done.

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I'm happy to see everyone getting critical about the exercise.  I think it shows that everyone is taking it seriously.  Good show all!
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I'm working on my scene now. Doing some research into the locations and I've already had a few reads through our tribe scenes - intreaging cliffhanger there Gabe.

I'll try to have my scene posted if not tonight then definately tomorrow night.


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Can hardly wait!   


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Yeah I was thinking about that in when i read it, but it didnt really stick. Hanging upside down like that lends itself to the possibility for a stroke, kidney stones and blood clots and just general badness.

I thought about it again today and it would have made more sense if Maybe if the time were cut down to half an hour . Then her legs would probably be numb (like p[ins and needles numb not like...oh god I'm paralyzed numb) and she were a little loopy from all that blood rushing to the head.  here would be more of a likelihood to find someone upside down in a car, possibly passed out (and that's why he thinks she is dead at first). But the more you bring logic into it the harder it is for her character to have such wonderful lines. But yeah, I was just thinking it would probably be best if she were perhaps not upside down but in the car, maybe she cut herself loose, but she was weak from the windshield cracking on impact and slicing her up pretty badly. So she'd still appear dead because she was weak, but her lines would mostly be the same. yeah....i'm done.


That is a great point "Orange"...we LOVE her lines so I think she just needs to be upside down for a shorter length of time...plus...logically, if she were inthe car upside that long I think the way the animals are in this story they would have found her by then...


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Schoolboy error there I am afraid, that's what you get for not thinking something through properly and rushing. I have changed it to a handgun, thanks for correcting that Morgan.

Cheers.


It's just a little thing and George is right...it could have been a rifle...I suggested a 30/aught/6

Rifles have longer range capabilities, but there's nothing like a good shotgun blast for upclose devastation! Feeling mean right now! lol  


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There's been some excellent discussion regarding the weapons used here.

We might also consider the fact that the year is 2048.

There's already stories going around about a kind of psychological/physical weapon that screws people up. I can't remember what they call this now, but the nearest I can remember is it's like the microwave-- invisible, bit very damaging.

If we want to bring some sci-fi elements into this, we might want to research some other ideas.

Of course, the thing is, this kind of tech would best be staged early on. Like showing police or military people controlling people with these fantastic weapons.

Would our tribe members be immune to the frequency of these things?

Would the frequency of these things sound EXACTLY the same as Cordelia's scream?

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Good points, I am going to go back and change the length of time I left Heidi hanging for. What is the general vote on weapon of choice then? I could change it to a Phaser....
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Oh easy. A Star Trek Phaser.


I was thinking of something more cruel. Like the cruciatious curse from Harry Potter.

Seriously, I saw a documentary of a woman who was hurt by this "hidden" technology and it wasn't an "instant" stun of a phaser or even a cruel ten minutes or so of cruciatus.

She was stalked, quietly, from the comfort of her living room.

The "stun" idea is easy. To kill people is easy. But if someone wants knowledge, they don't always want to kill the person. They want to either pull them willingly to "their" side or control them and use them. That's the whole idea behind advertising and of course, propaganda and that keeps things moving in a good way as well as a bad.

I think for 2048, we should move beyond shot guns and even beyond phasers. What could possibly exist beyond the phaser?

Maybe the answer lies in the fact that for our concept of life to exist, we need obstacles.

The minute obstacles disappear, so too does life. (At least our conception of life.) Complete bliss disappears to nothingness after it continues unended-- therefore, we need Shiva, the destructor. We need Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva together. Creator, Sustainer and Destroyer.

Sorry if I'm being too serious here, but I'll try and write a comedic short to make up for it.

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HEIDI
Just a little sore. Hanging upside down for eight hours will do that to you.

BRUCE
Eight hours? No way.

HEIDI
Maybe an hour then, it certainly felt like eight hours.

Bruce raises an eyebrow.

HEIDI
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Half an hour then! What does it matter? The point is I was trapped upside down for longer than I would care to be.

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What happened to whoever was driving?
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I think that works well as it plays into the personna that you have established for her   


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Bullcrappolla Jeff!!! These weapons are real!

And the world is flat and people are not talking into "talking stones", (cell phones) You get real!!!

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Just a little sore. Hanging upside down for eight hours will do that to you.

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Eight hours? No way.

HEIDI
Maybe an hour then, it certainly felt like eight hours.

Bruce raises an eyebrow.

HEIDI
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Half an hour then! What does it matter? The point is I was trapped upside down for longer than I would care to be.

BRUCE
What happened to whoever was driving?


Shifting it this way works perfectly! If you were hanging upside down, time would drag for sure.

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I have to agree with Jeff and say I think phasers are a bit much.  I set it in 2048 because it's not that far away.  People will still be driving cars, just like there were cars around in 1958.  They might look a bit different and they probably won't use the same fuel - but there will be cars.  

It's likely that weaponry would have gone through some changes as well, but these changes would be for the massive weapons used during the petroleum wars.  The petroleum wars, if anything, would likely have caused a decrease in technology or a new movement of Luddites.

Rifles would still be around, like they were 50 years ago. Again, they would probably be a bit different but not much.  

I'm sure what I'm saying here sounds like I don't think there would be much new technology.  But that isn't true, there would be some.  I just don't think that in 50 years it will affect the common man, especially when they are just coming out of an ecological crisis.  I think that the ecological crises itself would be a reason for common people to shun new tech and return back to the earth as much as possible.

Either way, I don't think new technology should be the focus of this game.  
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I have to agree with Jeff and say I think phasers are a bit much.  I set it in 2048 because it's not that far away.  People will still be driving cars, just like there were cars around in 1958.  They might look a bit different and they probably won't use the same fuel - but there will be cars.  

It's likely that weaponry would have gone through some changes as well, but these changes would be for the massive weapons used during the petroleum wars.  The petroleum wars, if anything, would likely have caused a decrease in technology or a new movement of Luddites.

Rifles would still be around, like they were 50 years ago. Again, they would probably be a bit different but not much.  

I'm sure what I'm saying here sounds like I don't think there would be much new technology.  But that isn't true, there would be some.  I just don't think that in 50 years it will affect the common man, especially when they are just coming out of an ecological crisis.  I think that the ecological crises itself would be a reason for common people to shun new tech and return back to the earth as much as possible.

Either way, I don't think new technology should be the focus of this game.  


I completely disagree. I think it's stupid thinking. Thirty years ago, it was 1978. We had computers, but they were the realm of only a few.

There were no "virtual communities". No Warcraft groups. No heart monitors, no abilities to keep 1 pound infants alive, which I have experience with.

For you to say that in 50 years, you don't think much can happen makes me wonder where you're coming from Michael! Seriously!

Just think 1800's and 1900's and it's night and day.

It's night and day just thinking about my (and your lifetimes) and we're not that old! Are we??!!

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Sandra, while what you say is indeed correct I think Michael makes a very valid point. There is a school of thought in some examples of the genre that in a post-apocalyptic "near" future, science and technology would actually decline. After a cataclysmic event for example we might actually see the internet an unworkable technology, mobile phone networks become disjointed and unreliable. New technologies that require certain fuels, charges etc.. would simply stop working if people were too busy surviving to actually manufacture and service the things.
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Either way, I don't think new technology should be the focus of this game.  


It seems to me that the way we play games is a reflection of the way we view life. No one said technology should be a focus of the game.

A few posts ago, you were singing praises about people taking things seriously and thinking about the weapons being used and now...

Now, you're calling down technology in a way; saying it's not important and shouldn't be the focus of the game.

Who is saying anything should be a focus of the game?

It doesn't have to be the focus of the game and that's for certain, but by our discussing it, I see that as a good thing.

If you or I say that it's extraneous, I can bet that a whole slew of people would agree (at least subliminally).

It just sounds very strange to put "cancel" on discussion.

I feel like your words put cancel on any future tech in this script.

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Sandra,

I didn't cancel the discussion. I just expressed my opinion.
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Perhaps one thing we could touch on is how the cars are fueled. I can throw out that the patent for the hydrogen car was filed in the 30's. The demonstration was done in Detroit where someone drove the vehicle to the Detroit River, "Refueled" by using water from the river, and then drove it away. About the only thing preventing the coming of water cars is the oil companies not wanting it to bite into their twinkies and having the clout to control the happening. Sure. it's considered an techno-urban legend, but the scientific concept is actually quite sound.

Another thing we're bound to see the rise of is the electric car. California has had solar charging stations where electric car owners could plug in and the surplus energy from these solar chargers fed into the power company's grid. The technology exists for an electric car that is solar-charged, despite the naysayers. Now a solar charger built into the car might take awhile to charge it, but most cars spend all day in the sun, and in forty  years, it's not unreasonable to think that the solar technology and battery technology would increase to the point of it being usable.

After all, this crisis is only a month or so old at the most, right? This means that life went on up to that point. We don't need to focus on the technology, but we should at least have some items that are commonplace to these people that we might find interesting. Reasonably, my character should probably have been reading The Stand on a palmtop that he downloaded before the wireless network came to a crashing halt. But then, who's to say that some of the greater technologies wouldn't continue for weeks or months without intervention. Computers would be unaffected by the virus and the animals would have no access to the systems that control them. Little by little they would go down as people wouldn't be available to resolve failures, but it would take some time before that happened. Our people could have handheld computers with more power than a modern desktop that could access a free public wireless network. The cars would likely have touch screens in them as well as personalized secure starters, so one obstacle our people would encounter would be finding a car they COULD steal. If they use a thumbprint, perhaps doing the unpleasant task of keeping the owner's hand on hand would be something necessary.

What other issues would technological dependance cause if current technologies make a reasonable improvement in the next 40 years?

Maybe we're all still stuck in the present.


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I was just about to leave for the gym but decided I didn't want to wait until I get back as I have a busy afternoon.  So if I may interject...

First off...Now children...Mary Poppins would like everyone to have a spoon full of sugar.   I feel a few feathers have been ruffled and that is not what this exercise is about...it's about working together and finding a way to do that so it compliments all of us.  

Sandra, I read back through and I have to say that I don't see Cornetto saying "end of discussion."  I do read that this should "not be the focus of the game." I agree with that and I know that you agree with that too.  I understand that this is just a discussion...and that is a GOOD thing!  

I think that it's good to bring in the visuals of the times and the things we would use to protect ourselves...but I sort of feel that man in survival mode would revert to the things that are easy to get his hands on, in an outdoor store as menioned above by GM.  Many of the more technical weapons willl still not be available to the common public unless on the black market...or through the military.  Is there a military base anywhere near where we are?  Maybe they could find a stash of missle firing or the like type of weaponry.

George makes some good points, but certainly we don't have to get down to trying to "futurize" the story with telling about what cars are being fued with...maybe that story could be better told when they are trying to locate gas for their vehicles...as opposed to the vehicle itself and how it works.

I do like the idea of hand held computers because in essence we have that now with our wireless phones...and we could go on and on in this direction but I think it takes us away from the focus of SHIVA and it's certainly not worth upsetting this wonderful "apple cart" we are in.  

All of this lends support to the situation we find ourselves in.  Our characters are developing well...I feel like I can invision them and I want to see where the human emotion side goes with them...to me, technology is an "oh by the way" because right now, in this imperfect world...all I would care about is food, shelter, safety...protecting myself from the animals and trying to find other people.  I did bring up CB's because if everything went down...AM channels would still be used as a backup...even 40-50 years from now and I had Albert the 71 year old bring it in as it would be something he was experienced with.

Initially when I brought up the thing about the rifle versus the shotgun it was just to help with a small technicality along with hanging upside down for that long.

SHIVA to me is a story about "lives" and how they survive the destruction...and as has been mentioned, destruction brings about change...Is SHIVA a positive or a negative influence in this change and who will figure it out and write the final scene - and that is our main focus and direction.

Let's keep moving forward and not get bogged down right now.  Deep breath everyone! Exhale and we're good.

How's that sugar working for you?  MP wants to know?

  


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Perhaps one thing we could touch on is how the cars are fueled. I can throw out that the patent for the hydrogen car was filed in the 30's. ...
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After all, this crisis is only a month or so old at the most, right? This means that life went on up to that point. We don't need to focus on the technology, but we should at least have some items that are commonplace to these people that we might find interesting.

What other issues would technological dependance cause if current technologies make a reasonable improvement in the next 40 years?

Maybe we're all still stuck in the present.


George, I think you've raised some excellent points in your post.

Also GM, the possibility exists that we've been plunged into a new dark age.

The point in all of this is just considering the possibilities. MBC raised the perfect point on the use of a shotgun.

Anyways, as long as we're all considering the possibilities then that's an excellent thing. We're not saying yes or no to anything at this point; we're just considering the options.

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First off...Now children...Mary Poppins would like everyone to have a spoon full of sugar.   

  


It's really kind of you MBC to try and bring sugar into this .

I also want to add however that Jeff brings a lot to the boards by his very nature of being unsweet, ungooey and that's good too.

Just because someone disagrees with me or I with them on some stupid point that might be completely pointless, it doesn't mean that it's an attack on me or them personally.

The discussion is valid even if we don't use any of it. As Michael said, he wasn't canceling anything, but I was indeed and I admit it, adding fuel to the fire because I wanted to make a particular point and that is:

Don't stop thinking about the possibilities even if none of them are used in this.

We might develop a graveyard of ideas that we can use in something else after Shiva and that's not a bad thing. Or, it just might jog something else loose regarding this game.

I was very interested in George's comments regarding cars. It's something I never would have thought of, but the idea of personalized starters is fascinating.

Also, I should add that in our neck of the woods here, even though we get some cold blasts in the winter time, scooters are becoming quite popular.

It's possible that a lot of "the big cars" of today would be an exception.

If that's the case, the Greyhound bus, powered by a solar recharging battery or a hydrogen one is perfect for our needs in getting these people to where they need to go.

It certainly would be an art department's funland to design a couple of staple small cars that would be used in 2048.

In any case, you've all raised good points and the sugar is good MBC!!!

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Hey now Sandra, what's with this description of me being unsweet and ungooey?  I can be very sweet and gooey...espeically over the Holidays!
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Well done stebrown, short and sweet.

Alffy is next.

We are getting very close to the end of the first round.   The order of turns in the second round will be almost identical to the first.  But because the second round begins with the Detroit tribe George will go first.  I will go last.
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Ste, I not only loved the scene with the flashback, but also your writing specifically.

You've brought back the creepy element and I think that's excellent. Especially after a time when we're all discussing phasers and high tech cars.

The emotion of the scene is really strong and I like how you have created the urgency when Michael, James and Leona come along swiftly and save him.

Truly well done and solid writing.

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Miss Sandra...I do understand that people are going to have a difference of opinion...I'm a nurturing soul and I want to make sure we keep moving in a positive direction

Ste...I LOVED the flash back...I could see this happening and how he would feel...

Great job..and it is short...but boy is it sweet! lol  

Mary Poppins can move on now...


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Thanks, pleased you both enjoyed it. I hope people don't mind it being so short, I was just beginning to go mad trying to learn about the location by looking at a map. Can you get the Yips with writing? haha


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Alffy couldn't take his turn, so I took his turn for him. Hope you guys enjoy it.

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WOW!!!!!  Cornetto...nice job here!!  Hugely nicve job!

I am very happy that you brought Betty into this...it worked well.  Albert is such a good character I think.  I am very bummed about his demise, but loved how he was ready to take Eddy out.  Taht bastard!  Jack and Sam were right about him.  Poor Albert, but atleast h and Betty can now spend eternity together.

Great work Michael...very nice indeed.

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Michael,

This was truly a fabulous scene built on suspense. You've built on the identity of Eddy and that's excellent. We knew something was up with him, but we didn't know what. Now we know.

I have a question. Was Albert being controlled by Eddie? Because I was wondering, how he was planning to use the kerosene because obviously, Eddie wouldn't have drank it because he'd smell it right away; so what I was thinking (I hadn't known during the part where Eddy was eyeing the lighters) was that Albert was planning on breaking the bottle and fixing Eddy somehow that way.

I think in hindsight it was most definitely Eddy controlling Albert and he had it planned as well as making himself look like a deer.

To me, it's a perfect time for suspense. It adds another dimension to the story with a reptilian character on the loose-- someone who has mind control powers to top it all off.

Really good job on this!!

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Wowser!!!  Fantastic job Cornetto!  

I too liked the evilness of Eddy...sorry that Albert is gone of course, you wove his character in well.  The mixture of good versus evil worked so well...just slurring that "s" like a hiss was brilliant! Goes to show you now that none of us are safe...

The plot thickens and the soup is beginning to boil...I LOVED it Corny...you are awesone!

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WOW!!!!!  Cornetto...nice job here!!  Hugely nicve job!

I am very happy that you brought Betty into this...it worked well.  Albert is such a good character I think.  I am very bummed about his demise, but loved how he was ready to take Eddy out.  Taht bastard!  Jack and Sam were right about him.  Poor Albert, but atleast h and Betty can now spend eternity together.

Great work Michael...very nice indeed.

Happy New Year!


I know we didn't want to see Albert go, but he missed his wife so much that it was bittersweet and the fact that that was worked with here made it really an excellent scene.

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Ooh!! One down. It's on now!

MBCgirl I don't think Cornetto wrote this last post. He said he just posted it for someone else. Cornetto's character is Colin.

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Alffy couldn't take his turn, so I took his turn for him. Hope you guys enjoy it.

EDIT:  Tracksheets are updated and emails are sent out.  Javier, you need to send me a new character ASAP because you are going to be reincarnated.


Reeper Creeper  I think Cornetto did write this last post...but maybe he can clarify   


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Right. I'm  alittle confused. But whatever.

I like how things just stook a complete 180 and introduced a reptilian character.lol XD o_O
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Yeah the snake thing is a little strange and I think out of the realm of what we were going for (I think i could be wrong though, obviously given the praise the entry received)

That being said, It was an interesting read for sure and an excellent play on the snake thing that was mentioned earlier. So yeah, Good job considering.
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I actually did a little investigation regarding the SHIVA God...just for some basic symbolism, etc.  Snakes are something that surround the god...and show that he is beyond the power of death.

Could be, since Eddy is for SHIVA...that he is becoming snake like...

Lots of food for thought.


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Yes, I did write the last post.  Alffy sent me an email yesterday morning saying that he would not be able to do his turn and that he wouldn't be around until next year.  So rather than interrupt the flow of things by going to the next person in the queue, I wrote his turn for him.  It was a very quick turn so it is perhaps not the best thought out turn but here's what I was thinking.

First off the death of Albert was Karma - and I didn't want to be blatant about saying that in the script but that is why I killed him "Oh, but I do" Eddy says. Because it's your Karma is hopefully implied.  

The reptilian thing, yeah, is a bit out there but it does have a connection with Shiva and I was just following up the giant snake.  I figured that was how the giant snake got there in the first place.  Someone transformed into it.  And that was where I pictured Eddy headed.

Does this imply that everyone  bit turns into a giant snake? No.  But it does imply that some people have this happen to them.  And it does imply that we may have future encounters with them - increasing the stakes as we head toward our goal.  

And I may also state here that no one except me at this point knows exactly what Shiva really is.

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I actually did a little investigation regarding the SHIVA God...just for some basic symbolism, etc.  Snakes are something that surround the god...and show that he is beyond the power of death.

Could be, since Eddy is for SHIVA...that he is becoming snake like...

Lots of food for thought.


Yes, and Shiva wears snakes like jewelry. The snake is the symbol of kundalini. It's also our DNA which spirals.

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